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Wikidata weekly summary #199

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UK Wikimeet survey results

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Hello. This is a quick note to let you know that the results of the UK wikimeet survey have now been posted on Meta at m:UK Wikimeet survey 2015. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016

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Tech News: 2016-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The mobile web interface no longer suggests HiDPI thumbnails. This is to take up less bandwidth on slow or expensive connections. [1]
  • The search engine on wikipedia.org has been updated. [2]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 22 March and 24 March. This could be postponed to April 18. You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. Because of a test, there will also be a couple of minutes where you can't edit the wikis on 15 March starting 07:00 UTC. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
  • Administrators and other users with advanced permissions will need to have an 8-byte long passwords. This change takes place on 15 March. Users with too short passwords will be asked to change password the next time they log in. This was decided in a discussion on Meta and is because they can use tools that can hurt the wikis. [3]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 March. It will be on all wikis from 17 March (calendar).
  • The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones. [4]

Meetings

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Wikidata weekly summary #200

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IPBE

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I've given you the right back; your reason for wanting it seems reasonable, and I understand that if you need it, you'll almost definitely have zero advance notice that you need it. As you're well aware, IPBE is considered a much, much bigger deal than it really should be, so please be really careful not to do something you're not supposed to do, as described here. And as you're also aware, checkusers may check your account solely because you have IPBE. In particular, you should not use it to edit through Tor, as that isn't the reason I granted it. To be clear, I'm ticking off all these caveats to cover my ass, not because I expect there to be a problem. Hope this prevents problems for you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:56, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

@Floquenbeam: All noted and agreed. Thank you, that's a big weight off my mind. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome. I should also have said that IPBE will be removed if it looks like you've edited while logged out (beyond the occasional obviously innocent mistake). Editors with IPBE pretty much give up the right to make even innocuous edits while not logged in. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:46, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #201

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Holding cell question

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To your knowledge, is there any reason we haven't substituted the {{Infobox Country at the Universiade}} and {{Infobox Country Asian Para Games}} transclusions using the wrapper you created yet? If nothing comes to mind, I'll go ahead and do it to finish out that merge. ~ RobTalk 04:38, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

@BU Rob13: No reason that I know of, other than lack of volunteers. Please go ahead. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:31, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Done. And now to see if whichever admin gets to it will consider deletion of things like {{Infobox Universiade Italy}} uncontroversial so I don't have to file a 60 template TfD... ~ RobTalk 03:29, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
@BU Rob13: Nice work; thank you - and deletion seems to be going well. It's good to see someone working on the backlog. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:27, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

It's a birthday

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I tried Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Amendment request: Infoboxes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Automated talkpage archiving vs manual archiving/Walter O'Brien talkpage length

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As you can see, it is a problematic article where a lot of the claims are self-published claims which generally have the facts emerging afterwards. This results in a kind of event driven editing/commmenting process. The length of the talk page is due to these problems that these self-published claims and unreliable sources cause. Is it possible to limit the talk page to around half its current length or perhaps manually archive the topics rather than using a bulk archiving approach? Jmccormac (talk) 14:35, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

@Jmccormac: Both are possible, but less sensible. If there are persistent issues, write a brief talk page notice, and link to the relevant section of the archives. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. The Wikimedia Technology department planned to test it this week. This will take place the week of April 18 instead. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
  • In Firefox, the visual editor would sometimes just jump down to the bottom of the page when you double-clicked on a table cell. This has now been fixed. [5]

Changes this week

  • It will now be easier to list IP addresses that don't have to solve CAPTCHAs. [6]
  • You will now be able to mark Echo notifications as unread. [7]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).

Meetings

  •   You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  •   URLs in the recent changes IRC feed will no longer be rewritten to unencrypted HTTP. This could be a breaking change for bots dependent on the IRC feed. This will happen on May 2. [8]

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16:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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(diff | hist) . . Talk:General Motors streetcar conspiracy‎; 18:25 . . (0)‎ . . ‎Pigsonthewing (talk | contribs)‎ (Undid revision 711219553 by Anmccaff (talk) So put a link in an edit notice)

I'm unsure what you are asking for here. I reverted your edit because there are long-stanging controversies that probably should not be archived before they are worked out, and not until they are worked out. Anmccaff (talk) 19:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

@Anmccaff: See Wikipedia:Editnotice. There is no need to keep things that haven't been edited for a month or more, on talk page which is currently 213,335 bytes long. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Obviously, I hope, you understand that I've explicitly disagreed with that already; archiving part of an ongoing discussion may "clear" the talk page initially, but at the cost of later reiteration. Anmccaff (talk) 20:17, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
@Anmccaff: Which is why you use an edit notice, to link to highlight and link to the earlier discussion. Though discussions not edited for a month or more are not "ongoing". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Could you point me toward an example? Anmccaff (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
@Anmccaff: Lots on Wikipedia:Editnotice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Anmccaff (talk) 20:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

WP:Project Accuracy

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Go somewhere else

Hi, POTW - while I can understand your concerns, I would be very appreciative if you would at least try to discuss things with me first. I am not some unreasonable editor that you need to bypass to get things done. I was a bit taken back by your reaction to my proposal for an editorial review board because you never even gave me an opportunity to discuss it, and now you've requested a name change for an image. Why don't you at least extend me the courtesy of discussing it first? Atsme📞📧 14:46, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

What a bizarre set of accusations. You're welcome to discuss it in any number of forums; I'm not stopping you. And to which "reaction" do you refer? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:49, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry you considered my request to you as "bizarre" and accusatory because it was not my intention. I will be happy to answer your questions. For starters, your 2 email replies in response to Isaac's concerns (Cc: to me) which were quickly followed by your request for a name change of the image I created: [9]. WP:Project Accuracy has a TP for discussion about the project itself which has been there since early February. There is also [10]. Considering the project is in its early stages of development, and the fact I have been asking for input for quite some time, it would have been a courteous gesture on your part If you had raised your objection with me prior to proposing a name change, the latter of which has already happened. Atsme📞📧 16:59, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah yes, CCing you in to my replies to emails posted apparently on your behalf to a Wikimedia mailing list, soliciting comments about your project. Clearly an attempt to bypass you. Still, good news on the renaming front. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:07, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Already we have issues of WP:OWN. Not promising at all and Atsme your notes here only deepen my opposition to this. Atsme, the more you try to make this "yours", the more it is doomed. The more you open it up, the more chance it has to succeed. Jytdog (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
It is open, Jytdog, but it doesn't surprise me that you would oppose, or that you would show up here to voice your opposition. Your assumptions have gotten you into trouble before and I really thought you would have learned from those prior experiences. I highly recommend that you try practicing what you preach, and at least try to maintain an open mind. Please stop trying to create things that simply don't exist, like WP:OWN for example. To begin, I did not send out the email POTW responded to, and I have always been open to input and nearly exhausted myself trying to recruit help. This is now beginning to look like a replica of what you did to me at WP:AVDUCK and I hope you realize that, and will immediately stop what you're doing now. It is not helpful. There are some aspects of Project Accuracy that resulted in some positive responses from Drmies as well as Doc James. I reached out to Wikicology for guidance and have also posted invitations here and there, hoping to find editors who can devote some time into helping the project grow. It is quite clear to me that isn't your intention, which is actually quite sad but I've grown accustomed to it over the years. Atsme📞📧 18:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
WP:NPA applies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:40, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
About WP:AVDUCK - you created that mess, Atsme - both its predecessor and the current, mostly ignored version; the community responded quite overwhelmingly, and negatively, before it became exhausted. My take on that fiasco is here. Jytdog (talk) 18:48, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
^^^Personal attack by Jytdog noted. Atsme📞📧 19:19, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
  •   Comment: Hi Andy Mabbett, Atsme and Jytdog. You have all brought up valid and interesting points in this discussion, and I appreciate that you have all engaged in a discussion that is likely to improve "WikiProject Accuracy". It is quiet unfortunate that many comments here include unfriendly accusations and sarcasm. Would each of you be willing to review your comments and revise them so that they focus on questions and concerns about the topic under discussion? I am humbly requesting this revision so that current and future commenters feel that they can participate in the discussion without having to make or receive unfriendly comments. @Atsme:, I fully understand your feelings but I think Andy was a bit perplexed to see "Reviewed and approved accurate seal of approval" on WikiProject Accuracy page when in reality, the seal has not been reviewed and approved by the community. This seem like a false claim to him and anyone would imagine that too. I understand that you don't mean the seal has been "reviewed and approved" by the community, contrary to Andy's believe. Nonetheless, Andy only suggested that the file be renamed to File:WikiProject Accuracy logo or a more suitable name. Don't be offended and I'm sorry for any inconveniences that this suggestion might have caused you.
The project is still in a developmental stage, and any change can still occur. I will like to say that Wikipedia works because the people in our community really deeply care about the project and this is where the intrinsic motivation is coming because people just absolutely love that they have the choice of what they work on. I believe we can help to reshape "WikiProject Accuracy" to a better form. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 19:11, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #202

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Tech News: 2016-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Adding references with Citoid was broken for approximately 6 hours on 24 March. This was fixed. [13]

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 March. It will be on all wikis from 31 March (calendar).
  • You will be able to remove the header and footer style from User language (babel) boxes. This will make it easier to use them with other userboxes. [14]

Meetings

Future changes

  • Commons will soon have improved access to Wikidata's data. It will then be possible to access data about any concept on any page on Commons. Assistance with testing this on the beta cluster is appreciated. [15]
  •   Wikibits.js will not be loaded by default anymore starting April 2016. Gadget and script authors should have already updated their code since the previous announcements, but there is another migration path available if needed. See wikitech-l for details.

Corrections

  • Last week Tech News said the new MediaWiki version would come to wikis from 21 March to 23 March. The right dates were 22 March to 24 March.

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Tech News: 2016-14

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Recent changes

  • You can filter Special:Log in more detail. [16]
  • Wikimedia wikis have a new way of counting visitors. [17]

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 5. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 6. It will be on all wikis from April 7 (calendar).

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