User talk:Pigsonthewing/Archive 65
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Didn't know if you were watching this, thought you should know there's a new report. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks AFAICT, speaking British English isn't yet a reason to ban someone from Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hasn't there been enough "dump on Mabbett" today? Stop it all of you before I post pictures of kittens all over the place! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Apparently not. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Good lord. Alakzi (talk) 18:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Apparently not. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hasn't there been enough "dump on Mabbett" today? Stop it all of you before I post pictures of kittens all over the place! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've said my piece. Please don't take offence: I don't agree with you on this matter but you do have my respect. I don't know if you'll feel the need to comment since it's pretty obvious we're not related. For one thing, I don't have your voluminous beard genes... BethNaught (talk) 19:14, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- No offence taken at all. Contrary to rabid accusations, I enjoy collaborating with many editors with whom I disagree on one thing or another. I do pity you the genes, though. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:16, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
This reminds me of another spurious SPI. Unfortunately, the reported editor's username was red-linked, so they got blocked indefinitely. Alakzi (talk) 19:48, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- I understand the meaning of the word "indefinitely". Are you me? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Case closed. The apt idiom would be "Laughed out of court". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Quite right too. Nobody who knows Andy at all could possibly consider this remotely plausible. Guy (Help!) 23:18, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the club <g>. Collect (talk) 23:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
FYI
As an admin, I do not close debates I started. It's bad form. Start, vote or close, but only one of the three. Think of it as a separation of duties issue. Offered as a friend in the hope of avoiding future drama. Guy (Help!) 23:26, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer to follow Wikipedia policies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:28, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- No, that is begging the question. In almost all cases, reasonable people may disagree on interpretation of policy. I think you will do better, and with less drama, if you trust others to do the needful. There are good reasons why you would leave it to someone else to make the final call. Guy (Help!) 00:37, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
TfD metatalk
Hello. You nominated the template {{metatalk}} for deletion a little over a week ago. (Full disclosure: I created the template.) Since then concerns have been raised at the nomination entry. (I share the same concerns, so I haven't piled on.) I haven't seen any further communication from you. Can you please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 August 15#Template:Metatalk? —DragonHawk (talk|hist) 10:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #172
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13:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Re: Wikipedia talk:Database reports/Long pages, it's pretty unusual to set up automatic archiving for a talk page that has such little traffic and discussion. The report itself has existed since 2008 and in that time there have only been four threads started on the talk page and the total talk page size is less than 5,000 bytes. Your edit looks like a solution in search of a problem. --MZMcBride (talk) 12:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's an edit which will archive discussions that are four years old and no longer relevant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Shoreham Airshow Disaster
Sorry about reverting your revert of my revert at the airshow disaster article!! I think I've got it right now :) 141.6.11.25 (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Arthur Moon: Contentious image deletion
Hi. You have previously edited Arthur Moon. Another editor has recently repeated deleted an image I believe to be central to the article. I would welcome your input. Tomintoul (talk) 07:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Tomintoul: They've referred you to WP:NFCC. Have you read that? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:22, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thanks!! &i have some Queries
Sir i want help on how to
- === Creatin a table===
- === creating a great user page like you ===
its very good
- === and "html on wiki" ===
--Aryan hindustan (talk) 09:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- The teahouse will help you - I've left details on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:50, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
List of public art in Somerset
Hi Andy, I'm makin at start at List of public art in Somerset however can we get the coords to display as a clickable link in some way?— Rod talk 11:19, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes; like this. (I thought it too complicated to include in a blog post aimed at new editors). Thanks for helping out! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:23, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- OK I can do template coord - but would a description/label be useful for mapping purposes?— Rod talk 11:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- No; that would conflict with the row template's microformat metadata. (Long story: another editor added the label functionality, against my advice, ignoring the reason why I had Coord created and the way it was designed to work inside other templates like this. It's probably too well used now to fix, sadly). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:52, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- But thinking about human users... If I click on the kml link the maps doesn't have any labels just 1,2,3 etc.— Rod talk 12:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- We could decouple the query string "title" parameter from the microformat, as I have done in the module sandbox; whereas
|name=
will both append the name to the query - which is used by kmlexport to label the map pins - and emit metadata,|title=
will add the name to the query only. This is - of course - all kinds of terrible, but it's the best I could manage - given the circumstances. We could also add a|mf=no
switch or somesuch, which might be slightly more intuitive. I've set up an example in my sandbox. Alakzi (talk) 12:52, 27 August 2015 (UTC)- We could make the change I asked for at the time (before the template was converted to Lua) but the issue was filibusterered by one editor. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:07, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- We could decouple the query string "title" parameter from the microformat, as I have done in the module sandbox; whereas
- But thinking about human users... If I click on the kml link the maps doesn't have any labels just 1,2,3 etc.— Rod talk 12:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- No; that would conflict with the row template's microformat metadata. (Long story: another editor added the label functionality, against my advice, ignoring the reason why I had Coord created and the way it was designed to work inside other templates like this. It's probably too well used now to fix, sadly). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:52, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- OK I can do template coord - but would a description/label be useful for mapping purposes?— Rod talk 11:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand the techie argument above, but labels would be useful. I wanted to ask how public art is defined - are war memorials etc public art?— Rod talk 13:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- My view would be that that depends on there beings some sculptural element - a statue, or a relief, say - rather than just a list of names and some architectural dressing. I can see us having separate "list of memorials" pages, though. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:34, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Is there a preferred order for display when first seen? If alphabetical is this by subject? If we have an article about the sculpture I'm using the article title as subject but sometimes when we don't the person eg Edward VII & what about a title like "silica" which isn't really about anything - as I add more to List of public art in Somerset it is getting messier... Is there a documentation page somewhere to get consistency?— Rod talk 13:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Not yet ;-) You could ask at WT:WikiProject Public Art. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:08, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Is there a preferred order for display when first seen? If alphabetical is this by subject? If we have an article about the sculpture I'm using the article title as subject but sometimes when we don't the person eg Edward VII & what about a title like "silica" which isn't really about anything - as I add more to List of public art in Somerset it is getting messier... Is there a documentation page somewhere to get consistency?— Rod talk 13:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
How do I add coordinates for the Somerset Space Walk which is 14 miles long?— Rod talk 14:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Take the mid-point. Or omit them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
I've just discovered (as part of doing this) the Public Monuments and Sculpture Association National Recording Project Database could we get them to export their database (which has 263 items in Somerset alone) in some format which we (you) can import)?— Rod talk 14:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- They won't; and as it hasn't been maintained for some years, it's very out-of-date. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #173
- Discussions
- New request for comments: Merging relationship properties
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- New page: Wikidata:OpenStreetMap to facilitate cooperation with our colleagues at OpenStreetMap
- Inventaire now shows links to ProjectGutenberg ebooks based on Wikidata data (example)
- First version of units is ready for testing
- Did you know?
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- Started working on a page to track how much Wikidata's data is used on each Wikimedia project
- API breaking change coming soon
- API custom summary will no longer override the autocomment (phabricator:T97247)
- Paging and sorting has been added to Special:ListProperties and it now also shows the IDs of the properties
- Worked more on making the edit summaries on the client more meaningful and readable
- Introduced a limit of 250 different entities that can be used on a page in the client via arbitrary access. The limit does not apply to convenience functions in lua, such as
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which use a TermLookup instead of loading a full entity to get labels. (phabricator:T93885) - Properties are now linked in the diff view (phabricator:T105411)
- Ricordisamoa made several improvements to special pages (eg phabricator:T68744, phabricator:T48248, phabricator:T86647)
- Fixed a bug that made aliases too prominent in entity selectors (phabricator:T110021)
- Fixed a bug that made entries show up twice in the entity selector (phabricator:T109697)
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DYK for Birmingham Quran manuscript
On 31 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Birmingham Quran manuscript, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the newly discovered Birmingham Quran manuscript (pictured) comprises fragments of an ancient Quran that may date to near Muhammad's lifetime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Birmingham Quran manuscript. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Hello
You can buy me a cider. Hellenp (talk) 12:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello pigsonthewing, cupofpinktea here -thank you for the introduction to wiki. Cupofpinktea (talk) 12:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Template:Infobox nhsc
You marked {{Infobox nhsc}} as pending substitution at WP:TFD/H, but when I went to substitute the template, I got odd results, including many parser functions remaining. Would you mind taking a look? ~ RobTalk 16:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Try using the sandbox. Also, the reason the remaining transclusions haven't been substituted is that the target infobox hasn't got a miscallaneous designations field, nor are these designations listed in {{Designation}}. Alakzi (talk) 16:31, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- The live version of the page already uses the target infobox, though, so the "invalid designation" errors are already popping up. Any objection to substituting, which wouldn't change the cosmetic appearance of the page as it stands, and alerting WP:WikiProject Historic sites of the potential classifications that could be included in {{Designation}}? They can sort out what they want to do with them. ~ RobTalk 16:37, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Right, but the live version was only converted recently. I don't think that they'd want to include them in the list; they're city- and district-level classifications. Alakzi (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. Maybe we should just move them out of the infobox entirely to the main text, then. ~ RobTalk 16:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- That could work. Alakzi (talk) 17:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. Maybe we should just move them out of the infobox entirely to the main text, then. ~ RobTalk 16:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Right, but the live version was only converted recently. I don't think that they'd want to include them in the list; they're city- and district-level classifications. Alakzi (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- The live version of the page already uses the target infobox, though, so the "invalid designation" errors are already popping up. Any objection to substituting, which wouldn't change the cosmetic appearance of the page as it stands, and alerting WP:WikiProject Historic sites of the potential classifications that could be included in {{Designation}}? They can sort out what they want to do with them. ~ RobTalk 16:37, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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Not okay. The request had been responded to and after 36 hours was procedurally archived. Do not override an admin's decision to decline. Sounds like this situation is fit for wider discussion at WP:AN, WP:ANI or the like, WP:PERM isn't meant for that. Finally, just FYT, the bot was not "bad" - it was doing exactly as instructed. — MusikAnimal talk 14:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- I've already reverted you (before reading the above). I suggest you read the discussion, including the comments you removed, and that by the admin to whom you refer, who clearly invites that discussion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:30, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure they meant use a different venue, and either way that's exactly what I'm saying. We don't really do this at PERM. I think you'll get more out of the discussion somewhere else — MusikAnimal talk 14:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
TE request
Could you please tag Template:Discreet abbreviation for deletion (Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 July 28#Template:Discreet abbreviation). Alakzi (talk) 13:12, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's now been orphaned; the changes haven't propagated to WhatLinksHere. Alakzi (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Speedied. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Friends, would you believe that scoring is a key fact in a Bach composition? We have an editor who thinks it's bloat, - possibly I don't understand the meaning of that term? Can you explain what I obviously can't get across? I hate to see an article presented on the Main page in substandard shape. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- It appears to be the usual pseudo-philosophical disagreement over whether infoboxes should contain anything that's remotely nuanced or subtle. Alakzi (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- I disagree, I think it's nothing nuanced but most basic to say what instruments are involved, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- These are very pointed edits by someone who has previously edited disruptively to remove infoboxes en mass; leading to her having to resign her admin bit "under a cloud" in July 2014. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:01, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- I tried very hard not to mention that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- It appears to be the usual pseudo-philosophical disagreement over whether infoboxes should contain anything that's remotely nuanced or subtle. Alakzi (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Friends, would you believe that scoring is a key fact in a Bach composition? We have an editor who thinks it's bloat, - possibly I don't understand the meaning of that term? Can you explain what I obviously can't get across? I hate to see an article presented on the Main page in substandard shape. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Speedied. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's now been orphaned; the changes haven't propagated to WhatLinksHere. Alakzi (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Where is this dispute? I'd be interested in the justification for wanting to exclude something as basic as scoring from an article on a work by any composer of the renaissance or later, especially Bach. Guy (Help!) 13:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Talk:Geist und Seele wird verwirret, BWV 35#Parameters of infobox. Alakzi (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Could you please remove {{pbneutral}} from Template:Editnotices/Page/September 11 attacks? Alakzi (talk) 17:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- And if you've got the patience to explain to them why reverting me is pointless: [9]. Alakzi (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Only just seen this; sorry. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- And if you've got the patience to explain to them why reverting me is pointless: [9]. Alakzi (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Could you please replace
{{Tfm/dated|page=Archive box collapsible|otherpage=Collapsible archive box|link=Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 August 15#Template:Archive box collapsible|type=sidebar|help=off}}
with
{{Tfd/dated|page=Archive box collapsible|link=Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 August 28#Template:Archive box collapsible|type=sidebar|help=off}}
in {{Archive box collapsible}}? Alakzi (talk) 15:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- Already done, apparently. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
If could you please remove the merge notice from {{American English editnotice}}. Alakzi (talk) 17:14, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:19, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Your article in RSC news journal
Hello Andy! I saw your article in the latest RSC journal. It's very nice! I really liked it. Great job! Frostdawn (talk) 20:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Kind words; thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Apologies for my edit conflict with yours on Philip Mould the reference I found states he was a director rather than trustee...no idea which is correct though? Theroadislong (talk) 22:59, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Personal attacks
As well as the comments that Swarm has noted above I find this edit summary utterly unacceptable and easily deserving of a block for personal attacks. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Really? Did you read what I was responding to? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:59, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
1RR
You have broken the 1RR on {{Palestinian Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus}}. Please self-revert, or you will probably be reported, Huldra (talk) 23:04, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- That's not an article; and you have broken the WMF policy on discrimination against people with a disability, and our accessibility policy. You also ignored objections to your edit previously made on the template's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, Andy, 1RR does apply to "all pages related to the topic, regardless of namespace".[10] Now, of course you may not have known this and you don't appear to have received a logged notification of the article sanctions, so you may consider this your official notification. A standard-issue notification template will follow. Please take care to abide by the discretionary sanctions from now on. On another note, your accessibility concerns may be perfectly well-founded and that's nothing short of a noble cause. However, you still have to reasonably discuss the issue, collaborate with other human beings, and make your case. Your accusations of discrimination against another editor in good standing are not only excessively inflammatory, but they are in violation of WP:AGF and WP:NPA. I'm not sure how you can think it remotely appropriate to make such statements to another editor, but frivolously accusing editors of breaching the anti-discrimination policy is completely unacceptable. Quit invoking the anti-discrimination policy. Again, these users may well be in the wrong regarding the accessibility issue, but they are obviously not motivated by ableism and you will be blocked without hesitation if you continue to attack them as such (or, for that matter, commit other personal attacks). Your DS notification will follow:
Please carefully read this information:
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"Quit invoking the anti-discrimination policy"
Priceless. I may print that and have it framed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:10, 5 September 2015 (UTC)- Not funny at all. Your invocation of that policy is completely unjustified and tantamount to an outright accusation of discrimination. Absolutely nothing supports the notion that they're motivated by any sort of ableism, and if it did, surely you would have reported them for willfully breaching the anti-discrimination policy you love so much to invoke. Swarm ♠ 09:21, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- One does not need to be motivated by ableism; they only need to be sufficiently ignorant. Like you, for instance. Alakzi (talk) 09:28, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Of course it's not funny; I wasn't making a joke. Perhaps you might like to now attend to the truly egregious issues, like comments including "which -very unfortunately- made Pigsonthewing aware of this template", "not knowing a thing about the Israel/Palestine conflict" (emphasis in original) and the utterly fallacious "This is a highly political change"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not funny at all. Your invocation of that policy is completely unjustified and tantamount to an outright accusation of discrimination. Absolutely nothing supports the notion that they're motivated by any sort of ableism, and if it did, surely you would have reported them for willfully breaching the anti-discrimination policy you love so much to invoke. Swarm ♠ 09:21, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- I also note that the ruling refers to
"edits relating to the topic"
[that being "the Arab–Israeli conflict"], which arguably does not include technical matters such as fixing inaccessible colours or other repairs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:12, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
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FYI - protected template categories
Category:Wikipedia protected templates and Category:Wikipedia protected modules have now been split, and I've already made several requests for reduction in protection level. Alakzi (talk) 21:39, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Good work. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:07, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #174
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Wikimedia Grafana graphs of Wikidata profiling information
- Past: Wikimedia Science Conference (blog posts: Liberating Science Daily With, and To, Wikidata, Wikidata, Wikipedia, and #wikisci)
- Past: Wikidata workshop in Rennes
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- New date for the next Arbitrary access rollout has been set: 16th of September.
- Support for units on Wikidata is coming on Wednesday (9th of September).
- A new version of Kian has been released
- The Wikidata Game has got a new mode: Books without author.
- A new IEG proposal needs your review and support. You can also submit your own until the 29th of September.
- >8K Fellows of the Royal Society have been added to mix’n’match
- You can have a look at the spiffy new mobile view
- Want to work with the data in Wikidata? There is a new release of the Wikidata Toolkit for you.
- Your help is needed with the most important constraint violations.
- A new noticeboard has been created to help with classification issues: d:Wikidata:Classification noticeboard
- Did you know?
- Development
- Worked on search on the mobile site
- Started working on automatically linking identifiers without a gadget and the new datatype for identifiers
- We have a new Special page to query badges (finally!) After the next update it will be at Special:PagesWithBadges on Wikipedia and others
- Fixed some of the remaining known issues with unit support to make it ready for rollout on Wednesday
- Continued with making it possible to show meaningful edit summaries in the watchlist and recent changes on Wikipedia and others
- Made change dispatching faster (This is what makes Wikipedia and others aware of changes happening on Wikidata)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now mention up to 50 users in a post and they will get a notification. Previously you could notify up to 20 users. [11]
- A new version of the Wikidata Toolkit has been released. It now has Wikibase API support. [12]
- You can now use Wikidata to find all good or featured articles in a Wikipedia version. [13]
Problems
- There was a problem with Tool Labs due to kernel issues. This has been fixed. [14]
- The Content Translation tool published some pages with the same reference repeated several times. This has been fixed. [15][16]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 9. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 10 (calendar).
- The maximum character length when you search for something on the Wikimedia wikis is now 300 characters. [17]
- The notifications list has been split into two lists. As a first step, notifications about messages on your user talk page will be placed in the second list. Feedback is requested at the Echo talk page. [18][19]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 8 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the Wikitech ambassadors mailing list. The list is for Wikimedians interested in spreading information about Wikimedia technology news. See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia mailing lists will be moved to a new server and the software will be upgraded. This will happen on September 9 at 14:00 (UTC). The mailing lists will not be working during the move. It can take up to four hours. [20]
- Wikidata will soon be able to store measurements, such as a mountain's height or the distance between two places. [21][22]
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17:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Template:Faculty
Template:Faculty shouldn't be a redirect to Template:Alum. Template:Faculty is important and used in faculty-related lists. I've reverted your edit[23]. Zenqueue (talk) 02:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- As a consequence of your this[24] edit, List of University of Edinburgh medical people#Faculty (who were not also graduates of the medical school) had a problem. Department was blank. After I reverted your edit, the problem has been solved. Zenqueue (talk) 02:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
User:Maddiethepolarbear
You put {{db-notwebhost}} on a lot of User:Maddiethepolarbear's user-space pages. It's debateable whether these all meet this criteria, and rather than hash it out at WP:MfD I ignored the 12-month time limit and replaced the contents of these pages with {{inactive userpage blanked}} and left her a note at User talk:Maddiethepolarbear#The pages listed above were blanked, not deleted.
If you still want to nominate them for deletion, go ahead, but I would recommend waiting until we know she isn't coming back before doing so. Give it a year since her last edit. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Per WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:CHILD, deleting those pages would've been the wise thing to do; and not bring more attention to them by posting both here and on her talk page. Alakzi (talk) 23:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, somehow I missed the fact that the editor was likely a child. If I had noticed it, that might have made a difference. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:44, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm am active, I just am in school as stated on my profile.Maddiethepolarbear (talk) 07:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sixty-nine edits, the only one of which that is not in your userspace being the one on this page. WP:NOTWEBHOST applies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use the Wikidata query service. [25]
- Belarusian-Taraškievica Wikipedia was moved from be-x-old.wiki.x.io to be-tarask.wiki.x.io. This caused some issues, but most of them were resolved. [26]
- Language preferences might not be changed immediately when you adjust them. Language selection might work slower. Please report any problems. [27][28]
Problems
- There was a problem when editing International Standard Book Numbers in Visual Editor. This has now been fixed. [29]
- The Wikimedia mailing lists should have been upgraded on September 9. It didn't work as planned and will now happen later. [30]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 16. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 17 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 15 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- ContentTranslation will show more data on the Special:ContentTranslationStats page. For example, it will show translation trends and information about deleted translations. [31]
- The first version of the translation suggestions feature will be deployed soon. [32]
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16:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)