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Namibia topic needing coverage: Mburumba Kerina

Greetings, a few months back I ran across the draft User:Gift-allan201000584/Mburumba Kerina. Not at all ready for publishing, but when I searched the name on GoogleBooks I got tons of hits. Unless there's some alternate spelling I'm missing, he doesn't appear to have a WP entry. If you have any students that you expect would be able to use gBooks correctly, read up on how to write a good biography, etc., this could be a very fruitful topic that a student could get a great article out of, and would be a very useful addition to WP. Just a suggestion. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Matthew, I currently don't have students, but I will try to put up something myself. --Pgallert (talk) 10:08, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination

Hello, and happy holidays. Would you kindly nominate a new article about Jean Aylwin? There are two authors, User:AlexTiefling and me. A possible hook would be: ... that actress Jean Aylwin received press coverage "for inspiring a style of dress, in crepe and lace"? Please ping me if you have questions. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The reference for this hook is behind a pay wall, but if you put it in double quotes in the hook, should it perhaps also be quoted this way in the article? Also, would it be safe to shorten it to ... that actress Jean Aylwin inspired a new dress style "in crepe and lace"? --Pgallert (talk) 18:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, good. I added the quotes to the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:51, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately a day late, sorry, I was out for the weekend. Maybe it is still being accepted: Template:Did you know nominations/Jean Aylwin. --Pgallert (talk) 19:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I have two newer ones below. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi - thank you both very much for the nomination! For the record, the actual sentence from the newspaper article is 'Miss Peggy Evelyn has a charming gown of grey crepe de chine, with a violet sash, Miss Dahlia Gordon has a "Jean Aylwin" gown of white crepe de chine and lace, while Miss Irene Grange wears tete de negre satin and tulle, with a hat of brown velvet to match.' The subtitle and theme of the article is 'Dress inspiration from the new Empire revues', and several other outfits are similarly credited to society and stage figures. AlexTiefling (talk) 21:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Jean Aylwin

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Hisham Nazer

Pgallert, can I ask you to take another look at this now that Egeymi says the issues have been addressed. Since I proposed an ALT3, I can't review my own hook, and it would be best to have the same person continuing the whole of the review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:05, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Drop me a line

Hi Pgallert. We're appointing some closing editors for the Jerusalem RFC, and you've been suggested as one of the closers. Could you drop me a line at wikiagk // gmail ~ com so that I can explain what the position will entail? Thanks! AGK [•] 14:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Did send an email on 3 Jan but did not receive any response yet. --Pgallert (talk) 11:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Doreen Sioka

Harrias ^talk 00:14, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Voice of Namibia

Harrias ^talk 00:14, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Saraba, Itoshiki Kanashimitachi yo

I came up with an ALT4 that might meet your criteria for an alternate hook on this nomination. If so, please review as appropriate if you can (specify which hooks are okay and which are not); if not, we can keep waiting for a new reviewer. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

• There's another ALT at the page, if you'd be willing to review it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

• I've just made a comment on your recent approval: the article is quite clear that "Wee-tee-wee-tee" is "in Furbish and Japanese", so it would help if you could note on the page whether this allows any other ALTs to be approved. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:10, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry; never mind. Crisco 1492 didn't like any of the earlier ALTs, so they're moot anyway. I've just made the tick easier to see for any passing promoter. Thanks for getting this one finally approved! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:16, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination?

I just wrote this - feel like nominating it?: Salvatore Dell'Isola. A possible hook would be "...that Salvatore Dell'Isola conducted some of the famous Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals, winning a Tony Award for his work?" -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:04, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

 Done Template:Did you know nominations/Salvatore Dell'Isola. --Pgallert (talk) 06:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Salvatore Dell'Isola

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Oorlam people

Hi yourself. In the first place, I do not appreciate the snide tone of your comments to me. I have been a Wikipedia editor longer than you, I have created quite a few articles, and I am not an idiot. To say something like "Please be more careful next time" is downright insulting and does not help Wikipedia.

Now, to get down to cases. You say "the quote you used was far too long to be acceptable under the fair use guidelines, see Wikipedia:Non-free content." I have seen Wikipedia:Non-free content, and I copy here for your easy reference the entire relevant section:

Text
Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea. In all cases, a citation is required. Copyrighted text that is used verbatim must be attributed with quotation marks or other standard notation, such as block quotes. Any alterations must be clearly marked, i.e. [brackets] for added text, an ellipsis (...) for removed text, and emphasis noted after the quotation as "(emphasis added)" or "(emphasis in the original)". Extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited. Please see both WP:QUOTE for use and formatting issues in using quotations, and WP:MOSQUOTE for style guidelines related to quoting.

Does it say how many lines are acceptable? No, it does not, and there is a good reason for that: nobody knows. There has been a great deal of legal discussion of "fair use," it is a very murky area, and reasonable people may disagree. (As an editor by profession, I have some knowledge of these matters.) My take on it is that a single footnote from a twenty-page article is clearly fair use, but, as I say, reasonable people may disagree, and I am certainly amenable to compromise. However, you did not offer a compromise, or do any useful work yourself, you simply reverted the change, leaving the article with a blatantly misleading statement: "Their name is said to be a corruption of the Dutch 'Oberlanders'." Yes, it is "said to be" that, but it is also said to be many other things, which is why I added the text of the footnote. I realized, of course, that it was a fairly long footnote, but everything in it was necessary information, and much of the text was taken up by the references for the various theories, which is obviously useful. The obvious compromise is to add the various theories in the text of the article and let the reader go to the referenced article for the sources (though this is considerably less helpful, since the article is behind a JSTOR wall), and you could have done this. Instead, you did the easy and unhelpful thing: you reverted. I will now go and reinstate the information in a form that you will hopefully find acceptable. Don't thank me. And don't go away thinking your idea of fair use has been proved correct, because it hasn't. I am compromising to avoid an edit war. I hate edit wars. Languagehat (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and I also restored the alternate form Orlam to the introductory phrase ("Oorlam or Orlam"), since it is far more common than the ones in parentheses and perhaps more common than Oorlam; it is, for example, used in the Kienetz article. Languagehat (talk) 14:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry if you felt offended, that wasn't my intention. I also do not appreciate the way you approach me in the post above, I'm not an idiot either. The policy says "brief quote", and your quote wasn't brief. I operate under the WP:BRD editing scheme like many other editors. That said, your shortening of the text is a vast improvement over yesterday's reverted addition. I am not going to question the addition of content in this form. --Pgallert (talk) 07:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Kavango Region

OK, I am happy to accept your word that "Kavango Region" is the official name. But once again you have overstepped the bounds and completely eliminated the variant form "Okavango Region," which may not be official but which is frequently used -- the very fact that it is used in the latest (2011) edition of what is frequently considered the best atlas in the world should be sufficient proof that it needs to be in the article. Surely you are aware that not only are official names not the only ones used in Wikipedia articles but often articles are not even under the official name ("Mexico ..., officially the United Mexican States..."). So I am going to restore the alternate form to the first line ("also known as"), and before you revert that and start an edit war, please consider whether your goal is to improve Wikipedia or to impose your own personal ideas. Thanks! Languagehat (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Again, please comment on edits, not on editors. Your edit was a bold reversal of a three-year standing consensus, my edit was a reversal of that action, completely backed by policy. The next step is discussion, not a revert---sorry if it sounds patronising. I find it astonishing that an atlas should override an official name. In order to keep other editors up to date, I will continue the discussion on the talk page of (O)Kavango Region. --Pgallert (talk) 07:25, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Precious again

article rescue
Thank you for rescuing Khazar's Tipu Sultan for Did you know - making a fighter for Human rights known, after the author gave up, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:23, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 41st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style. That author is back, now I miss the photographer, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Iyambo

Hi Pgallert. Thanks for picking that up. But I am about something else: I don't alwys know how to fnd the rules quickly enough, perhaps you are more clued up - what is the procedure converning titles? I see there has see-saw on Dr, no Dr, Dr, no Dr. There must be millions of Drs out there, but I don't recall ever seeing other articles starting with that title. Thanks Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 10:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

There is a rule that the title is not part of the article title, like in Dr Abraham Iyambo. In the first line of the article you often see "important" titles like Sir or Reverend or Professor. You don't see a "Dr" very often. I would think that a title that has something to do with the person's main fame usually is given, but that is not true for the Dr of Iyambo---if anything, his tenure as minister is the most important thing, and that title would be The Honourable.

I would prefer to keep it simple and start the article with "Abraham Iyambo (2 February 1961 - 2 February 2013) was... ". This view is supported by the official guideline, the Manual of Style (MoS). This guideline is huge; the section on academic titles is here: WP:CREDENTIAL. However, on the level at which the Abraham Iyambo article currently is, nobody expects it to fully conform to the MoS. If you want to remove the Dr you have my support, I can also do it myself. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 11:02, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the input and the references to the manual. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 11:10, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

FMS/FELM

Hi, Please find a new note on your previous talk page. Yours, Panu Hallamaa (talk) 22:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

unarchived below

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Hi,

Thank you for creating the FMS article! I had actually thought that it should be done, but there it is, thanks to you.

However, I felt I had to change the tense since FELM is very much the same thing as FMS. Have been involved since 1969, when my folks moved to Onandjokwe.

Therefore I would recommend that this article be moved to a new article entitled FELM. On this particular page (FMS), there should be a #REDIRECT FELM.

I suppose more material should be translated from the Finnish article. But that article has its problems, so it won’t happen anytime soon, at least not by me.

If that is done, attention should be given to other mission fields besides Namibia. Actually, I’ve been thinking that the Finnish article should be shortened, and most of the stuff concerning Namibia should be put in a separate article. Likewise with China (1901–49).

One more thing: I was rather surprized about the statement that apparently comes from Pellervo Kokkonen, “but also due to a contempt of the politics and ideas of the German missionaries”. I don’t have access to this article; if you do, could you let me know where he gets this idea? The destination of Ovamboland was chosen by the Board of the FMS on June 12, 1867 (Matti Peltola 1958: 31). The Finns had heard that the Ovambo kings had requested for missionaries. Whatever transpired in Otjimbingwe did not affect the matter, as I see it.

Yours sincerely, Panu Hallamaa (talk) 23:11, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Panu, thanks for your article changes. I have thought as well whether FELM might be the better name for this article. However, everything that is currently in the article relates to the Finnish Missionary Society, not the Finnish Evangelical Lutheran Mission. As soon as there are current events that make clear that FECM is independently notable we can think of it again.

Regarding the split of the activities in Namibia and China: This can currently not be done because it would leave us without a parent article. (FMS activities in Namibia without an article on FMS) As soon as the main article gets too big (currently a rather unlikely event), content forking is fine.

I'm not quite sure about the Kokkonen statement. I do have access to JSTOR but I forgot the login. Will try from work tomorrow and let you know. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 12:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, while I’m at it (in Finnish Wikipedia) I might as well take the time to write to you on the FMS/FELM issue. The thing is that the Finnish constitution only recognises 2 national (official) languages, Finnish and Swedish. All legislation is written and published in these two languages. There are some minority languages, e.g. Saami, Karelian, Roma. But this only means that you can deal with the authorities and officials in these languages. Only bits and pieces of our legislation exist in these languages. English, however, has no place in our legislation. I don’t think it’s even mentioned there. At least not in the critical passages.

This means that associations, such as the FMS/FELM are required to have their name in either or both of these languages. What they decide to call themselves in other languages is up to them. This possibility was exploited by the Sami Parliament of Finland (and this name is not official, I might point out), when they chose their English name, as suggested by Fredrik Forsberg, who told me of this thing. The Finnish authorities would never have allowed this body to be called “Parliament“ in Finnish or Swedish. Thus the FMS was free to change its English name to FELM, and they did not even have to notify the National Board of Patents and Registration (Finland) of it. You will find Suomen Lähetyseura registered there in 1919 for the first time (you will find this on-line). Where they were registered between 1859 and 1919, I don’t know, possibly in St. Petersburg, because they did receive the permission from Alexander II of Russia to form the society. Yours sincerely, Panu Hallamaa (talk) 22:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Panu, that's an interesting situation. As already mentioned, my only concern is that the Finnish Missionary Society article currently contains nothing about FELM apart from a mention in passing. In fact, it contains no reliable reference to any of FELM's activities (this is not an independent source, and all other references are historical and do not even mention FELM). That situation is of my making, of course. I approached the topic from the perspective of Namibian history, and from this perspective FSM is more important than FELM. You might notice that the situation with Rhenish Missionary Society is just the same: It is today part of the de:Vereinte Evangelische Mission, which has an article only on the German Wikipedia but not on en. It hasn't been moved there because nobody has assembled reliable references for the new organisation's activities. I think the solution is to show that there are third-party references to the importance of FELM, and only then to move the page. The other option would be to keep two separate articles, considering that there is a lot of potential content on FSM. I don't have a terribly strong feeling about which way to prefer. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 07:23, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, if you go to the following page, you’ll find everything there is official about the name of FMS/FELM: [1]

“ruotsiksi” means ‘in Swedish’. The other bit you’ll find there is the “Staff association of the FMS/FELM”.

Note that there is nothing in English in any of this.

Of course, what ought to be done is I should translate some of the Finnish article, so that we would have a proper parent article. Yours sincerely, Panu Hallamaa (talk) 22:51, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for clarification regarding Jerusalem RFC

A request for clarification has been submitted regarding the ArbCom mandated Jerusalem RFC process. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

New entries

Hi! Dorob National Park and Protected areas of Namibia might interest you.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK noms?

Hello! It has been a while.

Do you think you could nominate Iva Withers for DYK? The hook could be "...that Iva Withers once played the leading roles in both Carousel and Oklahoma! on Broadway on the same day."

Also, how about Cinderella (2013 Broadway production)? The hook could be "... that Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella, which premiered on television in 1957, was never given a Broadway production until 2013." -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ssilvers, will see what I can do. --Pgallert (talk) 06:35, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Iva Withers  Done here: Template:Did you know nominations/Iva Withers. Cinderella already has been nominated by TonyTheTiger. Should I suggest your hook as alternative? --Pgallert (talk) 13:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Great! Thanks. TTT already added the alt hook. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions

If you like developing theatre articles:

• Mel Mercier won Drama Desk Award for Outstanding Sound Design and is nominated for Tony Award for Best Sound Design.
• Also, {{DramaDesk PlayFeaturedActor}} looks odd with one redlink at Tom Edden.
• Some other drama desk award categories were won by subjects with no articles: Choreography, Lighting Design, and Outstanding Revue.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Hi Tony, I do not really edit in the arts at all. The only reason I come up with opera DYKs is a long-standing agreement with Ssilvers to have his creations featured at DYK. Those articles require very little editing, if Ssilvers is done with an article there usually isn't much more to do there. But thanks for the suggestions! --Pgallert (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Iva Withers

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

test message

Hi Peter! --Andy ngueumenga (talk) 07:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC close

Hello Pgallert. The Jerusalem RfC is now closed to comments, and RegentsPark's recent message to my talk page made me realise that the closers might not be aware of that. So, here's a message to make sure. And also, I have an apology to make - I never did get around to asking for clarification of the kind of comments that you mentioned on my talk page a couple of weeks ago. Sorry about that. I'm afraid that I'll have to leave you to interpret these comments as best you can. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 22:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mr Stradivarius, thanks for the heads up. I had contacted the other closers yesterday afternoon; we are working on it. I see that the missing clarifications will not be the only stumbling stone we'll encounter, but we will somehow manage that ;) --Pgallert (talk) 07:39, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Elsie Spain

Would you kindly do the nom for Elsie Spain? A hook could be "...that Elsie Spain was one of the last female leads of the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company personally trained by W. S. Gilbert?" -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:10, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done, nominated here: Template:Did you know nominations/Elsie Spain. Pgallert (talk) 07:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Elsie Spain

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:09, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

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Template:Did you know nominations/Diego García de Moguer, Geography of the British Indian Ocean Territory

Pgallert, could you please check to see whether Dr. Blofeld's and Rosiestep's edits, between them, have addressed your issues with the nomination? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Inactive account creators. Thank you. Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 07:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

After Wikimania

Have you met Romaine? I just thanked him for an edit of National Heritage Council of Namibia through the echo/notification system championed by Fabrice. It was great meeting you at Wikimania. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 09:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Ad, it was great to spend time with you at Wikimania, and I really appreciate this introduction. Hello, Romaine, it's a pleasure to meet you! We would love to work with you and our community liaison Keegan Peterzell to socialize the release of Notifications (Echo) on the Dutch Wikipedia, as proposed in this release plan. Would it be possible for us to coordinate this by email in coming days? (my email address is fflorin-at-wikimedia-dot-org). Look forward to speaking with you soon! Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I saw Ad already e-mailed us both, so you have my address. (I think that the way how the VisualEditor was tried to implement is not a success.) I am happy to assist with the implementation. Romaine (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi all, I will only able to answer on Wednesday---have no access to Poly email from outside. Haven't met Romaine but maybe will during Wiki Loves Monuments Namibia. Pleasure to meet y'all at Wikimania! --Pgallert (talk) 08:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I look forward to it. Pgallert, I think I met you at last year's Wikimania in DC, on the Wednesday before the conference? Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:20, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Oral knowledge/template

this presentation refers.

Hi! One of the my main reflection about the template which you proposed in your Wikimania presentation is lack of the next narrators of the same stories. As I think we sometimes need more than two persons if oral stories could be considered as verifiabe. Sometimes myth of stories can be have several diffrent version, even in two negberhood villages, rigth? Of course we can we can mention in one article several version of the same myth or stories, but i think that we need technical posibility, in the template to write "narrator3 = or, maybe also narrator4 =, Bacus15 (talk) 17:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bacus, I think that this is a very good idea. Along with the narrator we would also need context3, occasion3, and so on, as it is very unlikely that one narrative will be presented multiple times at the same place and time---that only happens if the second speaker wants to correct/contradict/refine the first. Alternatively, one could place two refs after one another. --Pgallert (talk) 07:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the welcome. I'm glad you agreed with me about that skydiving club. Inflight Allright (talk) 04:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Kurt Gödel

Hi Pete, yes, it was great to catch up with you again at Wikimania! The problem you described is bug 36976. Deleting and then restoring the revisions improves the problem but doesn't entirely fix it; it's a bad idea anyway because it resets a page's page ID. Graham87 12:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Otjinene

how is otjinene treating you? Hope you are having fun Bottlegueen (talk) 15:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Peter

Thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia. I am excited and I want to learn more!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wavirura (talk • contribs) 15:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Peter

I forgot to leave my signature the last time I wrote to you but strange enough it was done automatically.Sorry for that. Wavirura (talk) 15:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Rwanda Education Program

Hi Peter,

I hope your travel back to Namibia from HK went well and that you enjoyed the conference. It was lovely to meet you and hear more about Namibia and your education program there.

A student from Rwanda, Boris, would like to talk to a lecturer who is currently using Wikipedia in education as to get a better understanding of how to 'recruit' professors at his university. Would it be OK for you if he would reach out to you? --SOsterberg (WMF) (talk) 16:09, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sophie, yes, of course that would be okay. You can point him to this talk page, or he can use the Wikipedia email feature to contact me. However, I'm currently in Otjinene with a somewhat patchy Internet access, will be back at work only next Tuesday. --Pgallert (talk) 16:56, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for that Peter, I'll direct him to the email feature. I'll let him know you'll be back next Tuesday. Thank you again! --SOsterberg (WMF) (talk) 09:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Herero Day

According the source (namibia1on1.com), Herero Day itself is on August 23, and is accompanied by 3-day-long celebrations beginning on the Sunday nearest the 23rd, so that they don't always end on the 26th. Now I know very little about Namibia, so I have no clue as to what happens in real life, but are you saying that the source is incorrect? Do you have another source that unequivocally says that Herero Day is on the 26th? I searched the Namibian government web site, but could not find any pages that list holidays or anything. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 20:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Howcheng, yes, I think the source is incorrect. Both other article sources mention Aug 26 as the day, and I consider both this source (historian and former member of Cabinet) and this source (National government-subsidized newspaper) to be a lot more reliable than 1-on-1. There are many other sources (some of them supporting Aug 23, most supporting Aug 26), but it is difficult to find really reliable ones. Cheers, 10:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! —howcheng {chat} 16:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Diego García de Moguer, Geography of the British Indian Ocean Territory

Pgallert, I was wondering whether you wanted to come back and finish off the second of these two article reviews (the joint hook was separated, and the first article was promoted earlier this month). I've put the "review again" icon on it, but it would be great if that reviewer were you. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry I have to pass on that one. My monthly data volume (grand total of 300MB!) is exhausted. Will come back to this on the 9th if nobody else has volunteered. --Pgallert (talk) 12:17, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

No worries, Pgallert. We're good. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Willie and Eugene Howard

Do you think this article would be ok for DYK? If so, I'd be grateful if you would do the nom. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Sure, can do that. Can you clarify the surnames in the article; that's a bit confusing---Willie's and Eugene's surname was Jerkovitz, and their stage name was Howard, or am I misunderstanding something? --Pgallert (talk) 06:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi @Ssilvers:, the 5-day deadline is getting close, and I have no idea what a suitable hook could be. Maybe that one managed the other after they played together for so long? Would really be great if you could suggest something. --Pgallert (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

How about: ...that, after spending a decade on the vaudeville circuit, comics Willie and Eugene Howard became "a riot" in Broadway revues. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done here: Template:Did you know nominations/Willie and Eugene Howard --Pgallert (talk) 09:48, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Willie and Eugene Howard

Hello! Your submission of Willie and Eugene Howard at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:13, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

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News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration

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DYK for Willie and Eugene Howard

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Leander Tomarkin

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 16:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your helpful advice and much-appreciated support on Energy in Africa! CarolineABrigham (talk) 01:35, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK Nom?

Hello, and happy holidays! Do you have time to nominate a new article that I helped to create, Adrienne Augarde? I think it's rather good! A possible hook might be:

"...that Adrienne Augarde starred in musical comedies in London and New York from 1903 to 1912 before dying at age 30 after an attack of appendicitis." -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:17, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ssilvers, this was already done by Tentinator (talk · contribs), albeit with a different (IMO: less interesting) hook: Template:Did you know nominations/Adrienne Augarde. Do you want me to chip in and suggest yours? --Pgallert (talk) 08:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)