User talk:Misza13/Archives/2007/08

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Archive Map Special RfA-thanks Year 2005 Year 2006 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2007 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2008 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2009 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2010 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2011 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2012 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2013 I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI XII Year 2014 I IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI Year 2015 I II III IV VI VII VIII IX XI XII Archive for August 2007 Config Changes So I've changed my config options from 7d to 48h and changed the layout of the archiving, how long does it take for MizaBot to pick up the changes? Will it only archive new stuff that's 48h old, and I have to manually archive the older stuff, or will it retroactively archive the older stuff? Q T C 00:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC) Oops, disregard, seems I'm horrible at math, and the MizaBot just hadn't checked my page yet. Q T C 00:35, 1 August 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia Weekly Notification Just a super quick note, Wikipedia Weekly Episode 21 is out and can be downloaded at the usual places (if you've forgotten, WikipediaWeekly.com works wonders. -- Tawkerbot 01:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC) MiszaBot problem? Howdy. I was just surfing around and noticed this operation: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Talk:Landmark_Education&oldid=147758489 Don't know if this is a bug in your bot or a problem with how someone used it, but notice that whatever happened led to A) there's no link from the main talk page to the July archive and B) the July archive page "current talk page" link doesn't actually go to the main talk, but instead goes nowhere. Thanks for your work and have a great day.--74.167.38.27 18:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC) A) There is no link, because my bot doesn't update archive indexes - the have to be maintained manually. B) It doesn't lead to "nowhere" - the standard archive template moves one "subpage level" up, in this case from /Archives/2007/Jul to /Archives/2007 - it's a defficiency of the {{talkarchive}} template, not my bot's. Миша13 18:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC) "Template talk:" archivable? Is there a bot running that scans the Template talk: domain? -- KelleyCook 18:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC) MiszaBot II. Миша13 18:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC) hello, image deletion Hi. I saw you removed a deleted image from the Fantastic Four 2 movie article. However, that image was never tagged in the article, which a number of bots are currently working on. Had it been tagged, I or another regular watcher of the page almost certainly would've followed up on it. I'm requesting that if you were the deleting admin, you can restore the image for 48 hours, to give me time to put a fair use rationale on it, per CSD #6, as you tagged it. Thank you. ThuranX 19:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Done. I have retagged the image with a fresh "no rationale" tag, so you technically have one more week, but please provide the rationale ASAP. Cheers, Миша13 21:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC) I'm lousy at writing them, but I think i've met the burden, so if you can review it and drop the tag, that would be great, and if it lacks, please leave me a talk page note about it, and I'll attend to it best i can. Thanks for giving me a chance to make it good. ThuranX 01:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC) Deletion of article about Francie Conway Hello, I put down an article about Irish singer/songwriter Francie Conway which is now deleted. I'd like to ask you to restore the page so I can change it. I'm new to Wikipedia and still learning. --Hansdjong 18:55, 3 August 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for July 30th, 2007. Apologies for the late delivery this week; my plans to handle this while on vacation went awry. Ral315 The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 31 30 July 2007 About the Signpost From the editor: Another experiment and Wikimania Report on Citizendium Response: News from Citizendium User resigns admin status amid allegations of sock puppetry WikiWorld comic: "Mr. Bean" Wikipedia in the news Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 00:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC) Corrs Chambers Westgarth logo- Deletion Hi, You've deleted image of the logo [1]. I work for the firm and was given the permission to put up the logo in correspondence to our wiki page (has been approved by a Wiki Administrator and currently in the process of being uploaded). I thought I had assigned it the correct copyright, maybe you can help me out with this one? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yichen123 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC). It was deleted because it wasn't used in any articles (userspace doesn't count). While articles are being developed in user "sandboxes", non-free images should be replaced with dummy images, such as Image:Example.jpg. Besides, it didn't have an appropriate fair user rationale (required for non-free images). Please upload it again, providing an appropriate rationale, but only when you're ready to move your page to article space. Or notify me when you're ready and I'll restore it and give you chance to provide rationale. Миша13 07:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC) Whoopsie Whoopsie. I should have thought of that. Thanks for the manual correction.  ;) — madman bum and angel 18:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for August 6th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 32 6 August 2007 About the Signpost Committee makes statement on U.S. chapter About: The Wikipedia Plays Review: The Wikipedia Plays WikiWorld comic: "Terry Gross" News and notes: Similpedia, milestones Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 09:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Image:Lamulana logo.gif You deleted this image since it was not used. The article that it was used in was undeleted; could you please restore this image? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Subanark (talk • contribs) 16:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC). Restored. Now please provide a fair use rationale or the image will be deleted again. Миша13 16:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Moving of Bot Configuration Thanks for fixing that for me. I was assuming that if I set it within <includeonly> tags, it would work. I guess not. ^demon[omg plz] 17:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Hi I was just wondering if I have the source code for MizabotIII. I will not run an identical bot. I just want to work with the code. Thanks and please respond on my talk page. Thank you! Cheers! SLSB talk • contrib 15:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Code is available in the pywikipedia source tree, as archivebot.py. Миша13 15:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC) I'm sorry I can't find it. Can you give me the exact MIII code URL? Thanks! Cheers! SLSB talk • contrib 15:59, 12 August 2007 (UTC) It's exactly above (the word "archivebot.py" links to the subversion browser) - just click on "view" or "download". Or just checkout a pywikipedia copy (since you'd need it to run the bot anyway) - the archivebot.py file will be there. Миша13 16:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Huh? What do you mean by 14 days old? I sent KC that messege yesterday.--Angel David 18:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Excuse me? Are you sure you posted to the right person? Миша13 18:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Well actually, you're...you know...wikibot took that action. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Angel David (talk • contribs) 18:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC). You really could be more clear - you can't really suppose I know all pages my bot archives. Neither did you specify who "KC" is neither what "wikibot" you have in mind. But assuming KC = KillerChihuahua, I suppose you refer to this edit by User:MiszaBot III (couldn't you start with those details?). So, now that things are sorted, what's the problem, exactly? I don't see any of your messages getting archived prematurely (or at all for that matter). Миша13 18:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Yes I meant Killer Chihuahua and yes by Wikibot I meant MiszaBotIII. However,it is not that edit, but another one.--19:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC) I assume you will enlighten me and show which one? Миша13 19:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Sure, I meant this one--Angel David 19:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Oh, sorry I thought that robot deleted it! Thanks just saying thanks for changing the archive directory, i onlygot renamed on sunday, i guess i forgot about it when i logged on Blacksmith talkEditor Review 00:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Welcome.py When you have time, can you commit The new version? Thanx, [Filnik | Talk! | Discus] 07:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Idea for archive problem reports If the Miszabot/config page transcluded somthing like "{{/ArchiveProblems}}", the bot could put a one-line list of the sections that don't end with timestamps in that relative /ArchiveProblems page so that people can see the problem sections that won't get archived. In order not to break formating perhaps an parameter for this would be best. ←BenB4 11:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC) I haven't had much time to develop my bot lately, but I'll see what can be done about it in the future. This wouldn't be a problem if User:HagermanBot was working and signing messages... *sigh* —Миша13 16:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Taking over for Werdnabot Hi. Thank you again for MiszaBot and your other bots! Since they has been doing such a great job archiving the pages I pay attention to, would you please consider having one of your bots take over the duties of Werdnabot, both here and on other projects where Werdnabot was used? See also Commons:Commons:Bots/Requests#Archival. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Replied on commons. Миша13 16:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC) severo problem Misza... Severo keeps reverting and reverting, and does not allow me to say anything. I do not want this problem to involve administrators noticeboard, can you do something? http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Severo&diff=150982447&oldid=150977191 He was told many times in a civilized manner to stop it, to stop comparing me to users i am not, if you see the link, he keeps on adding what some other user added, i removed that, i toldhim it's ucivil, you are breaking wiki civility rules ( i always try to follow, including all other rules, especially accuracy ) en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility He is creating problems and edit wars. Today, I had to redo it, erase it, then put back the new talk, so it does not look i deleted other people's work, then deleted insulting material. He keeps on deleting my reply, only leaves his, then I look like a idiot without a reply and he seems to be correct. All of this started because of 1/10 of a pound. 90.71 or 91 kg, over a heavyweight division, mkil started it, left a note, he always does compare me to some other suspended user i am not. He was told not to. Its a problem, public library has many users and you can easily be linked toa vandal you know. So, i have a simple request: 1. Severo to be suspended 2. My edit and reply to remain like it is, without connections to other users as the above link tells you. It is against policy to delete talk, i already allowed him to delete over half of my replies. We argued over boxing, he pretended he was administrator (i do not see hs is on his page) He is trying to become administrator, so he is bossy. Because of him heavyweight boxing page was changed and good things reverted, i asked to email me, i have tons of evidence on what is heavyweight what is not, he refused to listen. If you can give me your email, i can give you tons of evidence. Its best you email him in private. I told him nicely (before he told me to hit the road) do not create problems by linking me with others. Its like giving out private info. His job was to help, he did not do, it's possible he worked together with others to discredit me. Just because he is good with other edits, does not mean he is good with approaching people. I do not want to be accused of edit wars I did nto start. My contributions are always accurate, precise. I corrected many wrong things on wiki over time and that speaks for itself... p.s. whats the code to have a talk page in frames? I don't see any evidence of blatant policy violations and don't believe it calls for administrative actions (and additionally am too busy to conduct detailed investigations). I suggest you follow the dispute resolution process and/or request a mediation. Миша13 07:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC) No, simply tell the guy not to compare me with other users, just to delete one sentence, just like in the above link, this causes problems and arguments. I am not requestion for much, if i go on mediation, why bother, it will only escalate things and possibly make it worse over a simple request. This is causing problem and I may be blocked for 3rr reversing, give me your email i have tons of evidence to show you what i mean, however, right now, simple revert will only take one minute and the warning to severo. Ok, here you go en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Severo&diff=151284491&oldid=151217004 you can revert that back, with all the name calling, now, another bad administrator reverted (the worse kind), i have no chance now, since others are watching, simply revert back to 66 according to wikipedia policy as explained above. You promised to follow the rules. And I dont see many administrators do that... Hi Misza. Sorry you got involved in this. The other "bad administrator" is me, of course. 64.107 and 66.99 are a banned user Use your own judgement, of course, I trust it. Frankly, the more people keeping an eye on this one, the better; since he uses the Chicago Public Library and open proxies, it's almost impossible to get him to go away. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Misza, do not put this back, Antandrus has access to all library range and he knows what are users editing and he tracks me, i requested from you assistance, i hope you understand remarks by antandrus cause problems and he knows when he puts other suspended users names, i will react and i have to, i am boxinwear and nobody else. I was suspended because i tried to help a suspended user who also used/uses public library. But public library can also be accessed from user's home. Antandrus also created other accounts, then vandalized and said it was me, i give you my word, i did not vandalize, I never did; except raise my voice at antandrus, which he deserves. He is after some people, he only knows what's wrong with his brain. I requested assistance from you to remove references to users I am not, do not side with him, if possible if we can put him before administrators committee so he goes away, lots of problems you know, because of bad administrators. IF you go under projects sockpuppet, you will know that boxingwear is not associated with any of thsoe users and even george reeves person is not associated with those users as well. Why did I come to you,to get assistance, instead i got screwed more, is that your purpose? If so... bardzo dziekuji ci. I hope i said that right. Danke schon. WoW Hey, I just want to let you know that your Wiki-ish website is so cool and awesome! I should call that, "MiszaWiki"! And I have a question from you, how do I create URL's for my pages? --  PNiddy  Go!  0 03:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC) What URLs? You can create both [[internal wikilinks]] and [http://example.com/ external links]. Миша13 07:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Actually, URL's for my homepages. --  PNiddy  Go!  0 14:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC) I don't know anything about of your "homepages". Furthermore, I do not believe you understand what an "URL" is - please consult the article for details. Миша13 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC) With respect to MiszaBot II At Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion, the page archives are screwed up. I would fix it, but I don't know how your bot would react. Anyways, the problem with the archives is this: The archive box is only up to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 19 (May 2007). The next archive in the sequence is Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive20 (June 2007), followed by Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 20 (June 2007 – July 2007) and Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 21 (July 2007 – present). The numbering is behind by one because of the missing space in Archive20. I propose moving Archive_21 to Archive_22, Archive_20 to Archive_21, and Archive20 to Archive_20. Another less-than-desirable behaviour I've noticed from the bot is the archiving lately has been from the 20th to the 20th—makes more sense to me to archive monthly, but this is probably a configuration thing I'm too lazy to look into (maybe it was intended?). One last thing, since I've got the edit window open, is it possible to use an archive nav box when the bot creates an archive page? It's already placing {{talkarchive}}, and I'm sure it would be little trouble to add {{archive-nav|n}} as well. Anyways, please let me know how your bot will handle this page cleanup outlined in #1. The other two points are of low priority. Thanks. BigNate37(T) 15:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Pages moved accordingly, current counter updated to 22. It is possible to archive "monthly", but not with conjunction with the automatic counter (it has to be based on the month's name/number: see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo). In counter-based method, it fills archives up to a specific size. "{{talkarchive}}" is now hardcoded into the bot as the initial content of an archive - it's on my TODO list to make it customised, but that would require some coding effort for which I don't have much time lately (maybe in the future...). Миша13 16:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks for your thorough replies and for going ahead with the fix. Based on your answer to 2, I see why the archive-nav (point 3) requires additional logic—not all archive pages are named as the ones we've been discussing. I'm glad to hear it's on the list. Anyways, thanks again! BigNate37(T) 18:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia_Talk:Notability First, if this is the wrong place to ask this, please redirect me with no further action. Wikipedia_Talk:Notability was just archived, but I think too soon. The page is not too long; in my opinion didn't need to be archived. The comment suggests it was because the thread was 7 days old. Can we perhaps change it to 28 days? Thanks, BenBildstein 23:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Go as you please. Just change algo = old(7d) to algo = old(28d) or however much do you wish. Having set up some security measures on my part, I don't take much further responsibility for how the people configure their pages for archiving and only occasionally fix if they malform the configuration. Миша13 23:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for August 13th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 33 13 August 2007 About the Signpost CC 3.0 licenses accepted on Commons Reviewing five software requests WikiWorld comic: "2000s" News and notes: Meetup, milestones Wikipedia in the news Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 20:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Image:Balad crash recorders.jpg deletion Hi, while I apreciate the reasons for this deletion of yours, I think you should be aware that the image was not actually unused. It is intended for use on the investigation section of 2007 Balad aircraft crash, which has been the subject of a real pain-in-the-ass user, who is unresponsive and has continually added copyvio images to the article, while deleting this image, the only one that is actually used correctly. Therefore, I would be grateful if you could restore the image, and return it to it's rightful place in the article. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Restored. Please keep a closer eye on your images and articles. :-) —Миша13 16:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Many thanks. I had been on holiday, and only just felt brave enough to check what damage Niklas had caused. I had posted to the Admin's noticeboard requesting people keep an eye on him while I was away, but to be honest I hadn't really expected anything to have been done. Anyhow, thanks again, Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Note I should point out that the confusion over the term "wheel warring" exists in major part because the ArbCom originally defined it as "undoing an admin action without discussion", even though WP:WHEEL says differently. I've asked them to address this. >Radiant< 08:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC) MedcabBot Kylu tells me you are willing to take over running this bot as soon as you "iron out the bugs and details of the bot itself". If there is anything I can do to help you with that, please let me know. (watchlisted you) --Ideogram 03:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC) I seem to have handled it - one function was apparently changed into a generator and the len() function stopped working with it. Other than that, it's fine and the bot is now scheduled to run in 30-minute intervals (from the toolserver). Let's see now if it picks up any new cases should they appear. For now, it's MiszaBot (talk · contribs), but I have contacted Sean about taking over the MedcabBot (talk · contribs) account. Миша13 07:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Yes, I was aware of that bug. Are you using the current version of the code? There are a couple other bugs I fixed as well. --Ideogram 09:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC) I think I'm using this version, which I got from Sean's home directory, plus a workaround for the len() problem (it suffices to replace pages = cat.articles() with pages = [a for a in cat.articles()]) and debug print statements removed. I'll update it ASAP (I have only WWW access where I edit from now and no shell access to toolserver). Миша13 10:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Updated. Seems to be working fine. Миша13 16:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Please see User talk:Kylu#RE: MedCab bot. I think Sean would do best to just talk to you directly, either here or on irc. TYVM! ~Kylu (u|t) 18:53, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Award According to User:ST47/Stats, you've just passed 100,000 deletions. That's insane, you're certainly deserving of this. Wizardman 17:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC) My mental health is just fine, thank you. :-) And most of these deletions are images burned by my zomgadminbot, which I nevertheless put some effort into, so as it has a high accuracy. Appreciated anyway. ;-) —Миша13 19:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/BJAODN Hello, An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/BJAODN. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/BJAODN/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/BJAODN/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Newyorkbrad 16:11, 18 August 2007 (UTC) unblock me you blocked my hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii123456789 for no reason why did you do that —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hiimevil (talk • contribs) 10:14:58, August 19, 2007 (UTC). I gave a reason good enough - please see WP:USERNAME. You current username is dodgy as well, but whatever, as long as you contribute positively. Миша13 11:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC) archivebot.pyِ Hello We've talked about the archive bot not working for me on arwp..may be because the variables aren't encoded in utf-8? or it is encoded in utf-8 but the bot treats it as ascii? may be if we try to localize the configuration variables it will work?--Alnokta 06:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Very doubtful. And sorry, but I don't have the time recently for debugging in languages I can't even read, much less write. Миша13 11:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC) That is fine..Whenever you have time (able,willing) to fix it, ping me please...--Alnokta 13:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC) You ated my talk page! What happened here? It archived the three threads, sure, but it just left the other ones missing D: --Lucid 13:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC) I have absolutely no clue. Seems like it dropped threads from someone else's talk page, which really shouldn't happen. I have reverted the archive and will see if it repeats tomorrow - if it doesn't, it will mean a one-time glitch. The other pages seem to be archiving properly (although I might have missed something and it's possible that your threads were actually dropped somewhere...) Миша13 14:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Unauthorised bot I hate to tell you this; but looking at your admin logs. It seems that you are running a bot under this account name, automatically deleting, blocking, etc. I don't think that is allowed... The sunder king 14:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Liek zomg, adminbot. Can you however add something new to this matter? (Sorry for being blunt, but it's been discussed already and is relatively common knowledge.) Миша13 14:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Also your archive bot isn't working on my talk page, and I don't know why. The sunder king 14:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC) You don't have an archival template on your talkpage, that's why. Please read User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. Миша13 14:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Yes I do have a look. The sunder king 16:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC) MiszaBot III problem. Could you please explain why your bot made this edit? –Animum 15:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Look up a section. It seems it's bugged --lucid 15:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Yeah... except MiszaBot cleared 1 and 2-day-old threads, and when Misza13 reverted, the bot kept on running. If this continues, I'll chat with Misza about blocking it until the bug if fixed. –Animum 15:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC) The problem is under control now - I've tracked the bug. It was introduced in yesterday's improvements (new variables) and only manifests itself on pages with only few threads left. I'm now manually checking all today's edits of all bots. Миша13 15:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC) It happened again today, this time to my user talk page. I've already reverted it. -Jéské (v^_^v Kacheek!) 15:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Yes, yes - all of today's edits could potentially be affected. I have reverted all erroneous edits (I hope!) and am now commiting a patch to the program. Again, the error only showed itself when after archival there would be 5 or less threads left on the page - the bot would then discard those threads and state a "incorrect" number in the summary (it was correct in terms of archived threads - just the threads that were supposed to remain were lost). Миша13 15:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Suggestions for Miszabot I have a couple of suggestions for tweaking your bot: First, only archive talk sections when there's more than 5 on this page. Talk:Kundalini is down to a measly 3 sections. Second, only archive individual talk pages once a month. 7 of the past 10 edits on Talk:Kundalini are from your bot. Otherwise a very useful bot. Best wishes, Calibas 01:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Added two new options, as explained in this edit. The minthreadsleft option covers your first idea (leave at least N threads on a page) and defaults to 5. The concept of "not editing more often than X" would be extremely difficult as the bot has no memory of previous runs. However, the minthreadstoarchive option sets a treshold of how many threads should at least be moved in one run - in the default setting of 2, the bot should never perform an archiving if it were to archive only one measly thread. This should lower it's editing frequency per page (on pages with low activity at least, since it will always have plenty of work on AN/I for instance). Миша13 13:29, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Yay for archiveheader! My request from months ago has finally been filled! Thanks Misza. --(Review Me) R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 15:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the "minthreadsleft" parameter. I have installed it at Wikipedia talk:Spoiler. Based on the issues of the archive discussion there, I think there can be too much or too little page kilobyte size. It would be desireable to be able to set a range, the maximum of which would start archiving and the minimum of which would stop archiving. I think one of the programming difficulties would be a way to set precedence of one parameter over another. Since a few topics have gotten very fat, while elsewhere I've seen a lot of two-liners, it would be desireable to allow maximum size or minimum size to take precedence over the "minthreadsleft" parameter. Milo 09:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Bots for Projects I am trying to find out about a bot that can be used for searching for pages needing the help of an specific project like for example the one in WP:MED It is needed at WP:TRUEORIG Can you give me any directions ? By the way great work with the talkpages bot ! Daoken 21:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC) I'm not entirely sure how you would define a "page needing the help of a specific project", but I suppose this tool by Greg Maxwell could probably be of assistance. It allows to calculate intersections of categories. So, Category:All pages needing cleanup crossed with Category:Diseases gives this list. Might need some effort to tune the results. Is that what you were looking for or can substitute for it? Миша13 21:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC) I was experimenting a bit with that after you kindly provided me the link. I was thinking if there is any bot or tool which can find pages with some keywords and place them in a "possible tasks" list. I don't know if I make it undestandable, like a search engine which automatically looks for pages with some specific keywords and place them automatically in a list (like links) which we can review for finding articles neededing our specific help. Thanks for the time Daoken 11:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Even as Time Passes... I believe ages ago I commented on you beating me to a username block...well even as time passes, you did it again.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 18:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC) R thinks hard in his mind why Misza always beats people to username blocks. R finds no answer. R consults the bot icon at the top of the page by hovering over it. --(Review Me) R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Interestingly, I did this particular block by hand, because the toolserver had a hiccup yesterday and the bot was lagging. I guess I'm still in good shape. :-D —Миша13 06:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC) gallorus observatory picture You apparently deleted these pictures which I personally took on vacation in Ireland and contributed to Wiki???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gn842 (talk • contribs) 21:23, August 21, 2007 (UTC). I delete several hundred images every day. Could you be more specific and name it precisely? Миша13 21:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for August 20th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 34 20 August 2007 About the Signpost Bad Jokes, Deletion Nonsense, and an arbitration case WikiScanner tool creates "minor public relations disasters" for scores of organizations WikiWorld comic: "Tomcat and Bobcat" News and notes: Wikimania '08, 200 x 100, milestones Wikipedia in the news Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 05:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC) A question about the archiver bot.... Could the "timer" be set in seconds? nattang 17:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC) No. 1 hour is the greatest possible resolution, which is rather pointless anyway, as the bot only runs once per day. Nothing prevents you though from setting it to "0h" which will make the bot archive everything on each run. Миша13 17:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC) My 'corrections' "If you do not understand the instructions, assume it works and don't touch it." I've to say that your comments are in bad taste. Thats not the way to speak to a fellow editor, whomsoever you may be in Wikipedia. There's a polite way of conveying the message. --AltruismT a l k - Contribs. 05:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC) I know very well that you are doing a service out there - by free archiving. Seems your comments were in good faith. Lastly, I'm not someone who would bother you for every problem with your bot's services. I would have rectified them myself. Anyways, thank you. --AltruismT a l k - Contribs. 08:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC). MiszaBot and minthreadsleft Somebody has put "minthreadsleft = 10" into the invocation of "User:MiszaBot/config" on Wikipedia talk:Spoiler. Is this valid? Supposedly it ensures that at least "minthreadsleft" sections will remain on the page even if they're stale discussions. The archiver seems to have stopped archiving since this parameter was added, even though there are more than 10 sections on the page and at least one of them (now archived manually by me in this edit) hadn't been edited in two weeks. It's set to "algo = old(10d)" --Tony Sidaway 12:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC) It was first added here after which you reverted, but this was adjusted almost immediately again. I agree that 20 and even 10 is ridiculuously high - the default value of 5 should be about enough for most pages. And yes, it takes precedence over the algo option so as not to harvest the pages excessively. This is what I provide for now. If it is abused, I would suggest taking the issue to the ones who set the value that high. Миша13 13:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC) Just wondering... what does "algo" mean? --(Review Me) R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 14:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC) It's an abbreviation for algorithm. --Tony Sidaway 14:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC) (edit conflict) A shorthand for algorithm, of course. In future, the bot is supposed to accept a variety of formulas that define whether a thread should be archived. So far it only accepts values in the form of old(...), where old is a function that returns a boolean value depending on whether the thread at least as old as .... Миша13 14:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC) I'm not concerned about the wikipolitical question of the value chosen, but the technical question of whether it is actually working as intended. For instance, this shows the talk page at about the time MiszaBot II would have examined it on the morning of August 23rd, around 0640 GMT. At that time minthreadsleft was 10, algo was "old (10d)" and the newest comment in that section was timestamped "19:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)", nearly 13 days before, but that section was not archived that day or the next. --Tony Sidaway 14:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC) Ah, but that revision of the page has 11 threads. Another parameter was introduced at the same time, minthreadstoarchive - a minimum amount of threads that should be archived in one run (with a default value of 2). Seems it must've calculated only one thread to be archived and refused to act (this setting lowers the frequency of edits per page thus limiting page history pollution). Миша13 14:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC) Inappropriate deletion of template I disagree with your deletion of this template. Your deletion summary, "does not further the project of creating a free encyclopedia", did not cite a speedy deletion criterion from WP:CSD, so speedying it wasn't really appropriate; where deletions are a matter of opinion, the community should have a chance to comment. I understand your disagreement with keeping the page in template space, as it isn't part of the encyclopedic content, but I see no reason why it can't be userfied to R's userspace, as the other EfD pages are. If you really think it's an inappropriate template to have on Wikipedia at all, you could send it to TfD to get community input. Would you have any objection to me restoring the template (and its counterpart, Template:Efd bottom) and userfying it to R's userspace? WaltonOne 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC) (Comment written before a rewrite of the above, due to edit conflict.) Yes, I would have a strong objection. First, it is obvious that the one-sided RfD discussion would end as delete (so much for "disregard for community consensus") should it have its full run, so there was no reason not to close it early and save some time and edits for everyone. Pardon me if I sound too blunt, but restoring it for just pure process wonkery (so that a doomed RfD can finish the long way) would be silly. Second, it has been already established by a precedent that userspace "cruft" is moved to (doh!) User: space, redirects bypassed and deleted. Third, I believe you are in error when stating that I need a CSD to delete things that don't belong there. Миша13 17:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC) (Follow-up comment after rewrite.) It was userfied already. I have only deleted redirects to userspace and shortened two RfD discussions. Миша13 17:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC) Sorry, my mistake - I didn't realise the templates were only redirects to the existing userspace templates, or that there had already been an RfD which was closed early. I wasn't aware that the templates were duplicated in userspace. I apologise for not checking the situation properly. (It's been a long day.) Also, I didn't intend to sound as confrontational as I did above - re-reading my post, it sounded like I was attacking you, which wasn't my intention. WaltonOne 17:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC) Deleted image Why did you delete my image, Image:Zook Simpsonized.PNG? I will upload another version in a week if a response is not posted. -- ZookPS3 19:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC) First, it was a non-free image that was not used in any articles (deletion summary was not provide due to a minor bug in my script). Such images may be deleted per criteria for speedy deletion, specifically, WP:CSD#I5. Wikipedia is not a non-free image host, it is a free encyclopedia. Second, continued recreation of previously deleted material may lead to the page getting protected. Миша13 21:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Cute Dog Somehow I stumbled across your page, and I just want to tell you that I love your dog. Cheers, The Hybrid 04:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks. I love him too. :-) Миша13 11:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Image DRVs An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:Super Mario RPG world map.png. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Taric25 09:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC) How come I can't find the DRV discussion anywhere? Миша13 11:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Sorry, I guess it must not have saved. Try now. Taric25 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC) An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:Mushroom Castle 4-up.png. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Taric25 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC) An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:Same to you Bowser.png. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Taric25 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC) An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:Geno who.png. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Taric25 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC) An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:SMRPG Star Road.png. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Taric25 22:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC) And what is the reason exactly for spamming my talk page with these? Are you incapable of simply listing them and writing a few words of your own? Also, couldn't you just ask me to restore these images, plain and simple? Миша13 22:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Woah, ok, sorry. I was just following the instructions on WP:DRV. I didn't mean to upset you. Taric25 22:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Image deletions Looking at your recent image deletions, please include an explanation as to why you are deleting each image to help other users understand your actions. Thanks. Adambro 14:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Hmm. It seems that the form for image deletions was recently altered for images - the field for deletion summary is now called "wpComment" for images while all other namespaces display "wpReason" - that's why it didn't get filled appropriately. I have patched the delete function in wikipedia.py accordingly. Thanks for the info. Миша13 15:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Image:Smithymario.jpg Could you please also undelete this image? It is no longer orphan. I thought you would prefer me just writing you a note than going through DRV. Taric25 23:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Hmmm, this one still apparently is an orphan, or it hasn't been re-added to an article yet. When you're done, you can remove the "orphaned" tag and write a fair use rationale. Also, when linking to images (like you tried in this message's title), please use the format [[:Image:Example.png]] instead of [[Image:Example.png]] (notice the extra leading colon). Миша13 23:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Done. Taric25 00:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC) List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars Could you also undelete the ones in List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars? The article is restored, since we are working on merging it with the main article, so the images are no longer orphan. Taric25 00:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC) MiszaBot III AFK? Archival of my talk page has been MIA for about a week. Q T C 06:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC) A recent feature - the bot leaves at least 5 threads on a page (pages harvested to zero look ugly). It is adjustable using the minthreadsleft = ... parameter. Миша13 07:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC) This annoyed me too. Perhaps you should have the bot leave a note of the change (or any other significant update) on any User talk page it happens to be archiving, that way people know so they can set it back to 0 (like I did on my talk page) --lucid 07:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC) Ah, didn't know that. Q T C 02:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for August 27th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 35 27 August 2007 About the Signpost WikiWorld comic: "Helicopter parent" News and notes: Court case, BJAODN, milestones Wikipedia in the news Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 06:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Re: Archiver Hey Misza, Could you take a look at my user talk page because for the last few days the archiver "archived" my threads to "/dev/null" and not the page i wanted it to go to. nattang 18:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC) [2] Until I rewrite the configuration reader to be more flexible, the closing braces must begin in a new line. Миша13 20:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Global warming talk page and miszabot Hi, I was wondering if I should expect any problems when changing the algo parameter from 30d to 15d. Right now the talk page at global warming is (and stays) too big. I don't think anyone objects to shortening the "stale" time, but I also don't want to cause any disruptions/problems. Appreciate any help or guidance, thanks, R. Baley 07:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Also, in case your interested, a discussion on the global warming talk page (pertaining partially to Miszabot) is here (link) R. Baley I don't interfere with the "wikipolitical" decisions regarding the configuration. That's up to the consensus to decide. What I can assure is that shortening the window will not confuse the bot - it will just archive more threads on the next run. Also, it does ignore threads where no standard timestamps are detected (so yes, with SineBot things should run cleanly without further intervention). Миша13 10:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks! That's exactly the kind of feedback/reassurance I was looking for (not political stuff -though reading over my query just now, I can see why anyone might think that -mybad). And good to know about the sinebot issue in particular. Thanks again! R. Baley 17:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Deletion reversal request You deleted Image:Fort Bend Parkway Toll Road logo.png on May 16, with I5 as the deletion rationale. Mistakenly, an svg image (Image:Fort Bend Parkway Toll Road shield.svg) was created to replace this png image, which is not allowed for fair use images. I would like to request that the png version be undeleted and the svg version deleted as I5. Thanks. --Holderca1 14:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Omg You just are sooooo awesome! I briefly considered asking if you could do that, but I figured it is just one day, no big deal, I'd just have to set my alarm to get up earlier, lol. (I missed by about 15 minutes, ). Thank you thank you so much! ~*Ariel does the happy happy joy joy dance*~ Ariel♥Gold 16:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC) No problem. :-) Your "LARGE Removal" popped up on my watchlist, so I thought I'd stop by and mop things up. Миша13 16:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC) LOL I really appreciate it, and once I figured out that I'd missed MiszaBot's run of the "A"s, I just really couldn't see keeping the 200+ topics there all day, as it would really bog me (and maybe others) down when loading the page, lol. Thank you again so much! Ariel♥Gold 17:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC) For being so special! The Special Barnstar in a tiny version so not to mess up your clean page. Thank you again Misza! Ariel♥Gold 17:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for fixing my archive thingmajig. I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. I feel kind of stupid now. Tex16:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC) It's not that stupid, as underscores are equivalent to spaces i page names. I should've fixed that part of the bot long time ago but never have the time to get to do it... Миша13 16:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC) "odd-looking white space"... On my browser the Wikinews box isn't affecting the "Notes" section at all. The box only extends into the section for a couple lines, and those first few notes are too short to be impacted by the box. In fact, the Wikinews box used to be entirely in the Notes section (see this version for instance). I'm not going to edit war over such a trivial issue, but the blank space in the "See also" section does look odd. We could easily eliminate the white space by letting the Wikinews box cross the section dividing line a little. Casey Abell 18:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC) That does look weird on Firefox. Internet Explorer, which is after all far more common, doesn't let the Wikinews box steal space from the entire Notes section like that. The text flows around the box, though the first few notes are so short that the no flow-around is necessary. Also, the notes are single-column, which makes them much easier to read. (Just looked at the template. The multi-column feature doesn't work in IE, which is actually a good thing.) Again, the trivial difference isn't worth an edit war. But maybe there's a way you can tweak Firefox to avoid such an odd rendering of Wikipedia templates. The templates shouldn't interfere so much with the text of an article, but should instead allow the text to flow around them. Casey Abell 18:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)