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Hey bud, there is a good news, the article copyedited by you has passed its GA but, another has asked for reassessment. Tell me what is my fault that an inexperienced reviewer didn't mentioned those issues on review page and passed it just to show that he has contributions as a reviewer also. I'm very much tired of this. I worked hard to develop it from a stub to what it is today. Also, Huma Qureshi is also under reassesment. The user said that the article doesn't meet criteria. Some ppl on Wikipedia, i tell you.Prashant talk 02:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I've reviewed the situation (including the ANI post), and it seems like personality clashes are getting in the way. I suggest that you voice your concerns on the talk pages of both articles; if that doesn't help, request dispute resolution. Miniapolis 20:10, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the thorough copyedit of the article I requested (Magnus Barefoot)!! Thhist (talk) 14:15, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure. Sorry for the delay; we're always shorthanded :-). All the best, Miniapolis 01:58, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

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Reopening RM at Jutte

Good morning Miniapolis!

What would you think of reopening the move request at Talk:Jutte? We had three oppose !votes, one of which was withdrawn and another of which came from an indef blocked sock, and three support !votes (in addition to nom), one of which just came yesterday and included a thorough discussion of problems with searching this term. I'd like to give it just one more week to see where the discussion goes. I was involved in the discussion but have not cast a !vote one way or the other, as I never felt I was able to get a true sense of which (jutte or jitte) might actually be the WP:COMMONNAME of the term. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 15:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Unlike AfD discussions (which are commonly relisted), RM discussions are expected to be completed in a week since there is usually no compelling reason to move a page. Like AfD, it's policy—not the number of !votes one way or the other—which determines whether or not something is done. Since neither title predominates over the other as the WP:COMMONNAME, until there is a clear, policy-based consensus to move the page I suggest leaving it as is. All the best, Miniapolis 19:29, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting you have to reopen it, or even that there is a compelling need to, necessarily, but as an involved but undecided editor in the discussion there, I would say it did seem at the time of the close like the discussion could well have been headed toward a consensus to move. (Again, after one oppose !vote was withdrawn and another was indef blocked as a sockpuppet, that leaves only one standing oppose !vote.) One editor in support of the move had just posted his rationale and the rest of us were not even given 24 hours to consider it and respond to it. For these reasons, I feel that the timing of the close stifled ongoing discussion that could very well produce a consensus within another week. So I'm asking, for the sake of allowing the discussion to reach some natural conclusion, would you please consider relisting to give us one more week to discuss it? Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 19:52, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Please feel free to relist it, keeping in mind the relevant policy, guidelines and instructions (which state that move-request discussions are generally closed after seven days; this one was part of the backlog, open for two weeks). All the best, Miniapolis 20:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I relisted it, and if it doesn't come to some conclusion within another week, then you'll not hear a word from me about it. I am confident we will find a solution in this allotted time. Thanks! Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 04:46, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hey bud! Would you please copy edit my next article Fashion (film) as I planned to take this to GA. A good copy edit would enhance it. Thank you. Please, copy edit. Listed on GOCE.Prashant talk 17:35, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but there are many articles in the queue ahead of this one and I'm busy with another article. All the best, Miniapolis 01:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

You may grab after you complete the current. Please do this. I would be glad. Please don't refuse it. Prashant talk 15:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Miniapolis! Hope you're doing ok. I was wondering if you could help me out with an unproductive user on the Wikify project. He's currently editing about 10-20 articles a day towards the current drive, while massively ignoring the wikification instructions, leaving considerable errors and subsequently removing the corresponding tags. The articles are left wandering mainspace looking quite frightening. I wrote to Ryan Vesey and Wilhelmina Will and got no response yet, so I was hoping you'd give me a hand. It's not an enormous deal, but someone has to have a word with him, given my efforts were ignored on his talk page. Hopefully he'll refrain from wikifying for a while, until he's fully aware of how to wikify properly. Kind regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC) Would also like to add that his unconstructive edits encompass more than just wikification, as his talk page will attest. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Umm...who is the editor in question? Miniapolis 14:55, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry! Here he is. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Saw your post to the editor in question, and their replies. Hate to be undiplomatic, but I don't see it as a particular concern of yours (as a member of the project) how good a job of wikifying another editor is doing. I've noticed that you and the other editor are second and first, respectively, on the leaderboard and trust that that is not a factor in this dispute. Suggest you notify the project executive coordinator and/or administrative officer and let them do what they want. All the best, Miniapolis 17:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

It's "my concern" insofar as the quality of the encyclopaedia is in question, as should be for every editor. It happens that I'm second in the tally, and it's offending that you would imply such an agenda. It is no coincidence, however, that Captain Assassin places first, just notice his untagging frenzy. I'm not the kind of guy that pursues bureaucratic courses of action, so I'll bugger off and watch him continue unabated. Thank you for having a look, though, it's appreciated! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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Merge and delete

Hi Miniapolis. :) About this AfD vote - I just wanted to point out that in most cases we can't "merge and delete", as it would break the attribution that is required by CC-BY-SA. Have a look at WP:Merge and delete for the details if you haven't already read it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:39, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Obviously I hadn't :-). Trout accepted. Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 19:33, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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Copy edit request

Please, copy edit Fashion (film). I would be grateful to you. Thank You.Prashant! talk 17:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure that everyone who has an article on the WP:GOCE/REQ wants their article copyedited as quickly as you do yours; it's surprising that you don't see the unfairness of habitually jumping the queue (and the annoyance of nagging). I (or another copyeditor) will get to it in due course. Miniapolis 20:53, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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I just (as it the same day I am writing this) joined the GOCE and am wondering if you would be willing to mentor me. Thanks! -- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 15:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Welcome! I'll be glad to. Take a look at the links on the GOCE home page, and I'll answer any other questions you may have. We're halfway through the May backlog-reduction drive, and you may want to cut your teeth on some articles from the backlog; we can always use more help. See you around and all the best, Miniapolis 17:27, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:No Regrets (Faye Wong album)#Requested multi-page move

I appreciate your closure. I wonder if I should rename some to different targets other than romanized Chinese names. For example, I must request renaming "Only Love Strangers" to an alternative English name... if I want to. --George Ho (talk) 14:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, George. Yes, it's a bit of a mess and there seems to be nothing resembling consensus on the romanized Chinese names. Something like "Only Love Strangers" is tricky, since that translation doesn't really hint at the original (that's why trying to copyedit a rough translation is exhausting :-)). Have fun and all the best, Miniapolis 16:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

If I want to request an alternative name, should I make separate requests or a different multi-move request? --George Ho (talk) 17:24, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

In this case, if I were you I'd make separate requests. Miniapolis 01:51, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Fashion copyediting request

Hi! Well, I'm very upset ad you didn't accepted my request to copy edit Fashion. It was copyedited by an inexperienced user and he messed up everything. Would you please edit it as the article is not too large. The article size is very small and you could finish it within a day. Please accept it this time. I'll be glad. Thanks.

Um, you should be discussing your concerns with the actual copyeditor (and steering them to the GOCE). Miniapolis 18:51, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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Copyedit on the Old Swiss Confederacy

Hi! The copyedit on the Old Swiss Confederacy is great and I thank you for that! But I am surprised to see all the flags gone, especially in the main template. I've been looking at WP:INFOBOXFLAG but I am not sure if this should be applied so extensively. I think flags can add up to the visual experience, in a positive fashion. And they make sense for a confederation formed out of distinct cantons/city states. In any case, thanks for the help and sorry for the late reply. --Codrin.B (talk) 15:01, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help. As for the icons, please see MOS:FLAG#Use of flags for non-sovereign states and nations: "if a flag is felt to be necessary, it should be that of the sovereign state (e.g. the United States of America or Canada) not of a subnational entity...". In this case, it's a judgment call; however, I found that all those icons detracted from the article's legibility, and thought a GA reviewer might also. Please feel free to replace them if desired. All the best, Miniapolis 18:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Bundesliga

Hi there, I am not sure why you moved Fußball-Bundesliga → Bundesliga (men) where there was no support for that move, although there was talk of a for a move to simply Bundesliga? Personally (and yes I am INVOLVED as opposing the move) I believe there was no real consensus either way, but if you decided on a move, then it should be to just Bundesliga. GiantSnowman 16:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree with GiantSnowman's concerns over the destination page's name, we never agreed to (men) being in there. I believe there was a consensus for the move (based on weighing up the contributions, and the evidence provided), but not for this name. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

The request was for a move to Bundesliga (men)—my first inkling that there was indeed a women's league. Perhaps one reason for the large RM backlog is that it's difficult to ascertain consensus when there is no longer one proposed target, but several. Due to the existence of the women's league, I don't see a reason to reconsider in this case since my decision was policy-based. Perhaps in future it would be better to hash out move proposals before formally listing them at RM; in many cases (including this one), no deletion is required. Miniapolis 18:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I take that back; Bundesliga (a dab page) needed moving to Bundesliga (disambiguation) and a redirect deleted. Anyway, it's done. Miniapolis 18:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I will third those statements. There was perhaps one editor supporting the move to the (men) title, but all others supported the move without. Please reconsider. Thanks, Number 57 17:15, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps it was because I had a flip-flop over the name at or near the start of the discussion that may have confused matters. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 17:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Really bad move there mate. Jared Preston (talk) 17:53, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

If I thought it was a "really bad move" (and it was listed at WP:RM), I wouldn't have made it; my rationale is in the close. I disambiguated because there's also a women's Bundesliga (albeit not as well known). Please carry on any further discussion on the article's talk page, where it belongs. Miniapolis 18:01, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

That's still a mistake, where was the consensus for (men) to be included? You seem to have "assumed" a consensus for something that simply doesn't exist. For what it's worth, all I see as your rationale for the close was "page moved per WP:UE and WP:COMMONNAME.", but that doesn't explain your rationale for moving it as you have. Did I miss something? There may be a women's Bundesliga but it's probably so unknown that it doesn't need to be disambiguated in this overt way, a hat note would suffice. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

The women's league also has a WP article, which I thought necessitated disambiguation. Since the men's league is clearly the primary topic, I'll move the article to Bundesliga. Miniapolis 18:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

You've really cocked-up here with this move. As far as I can see, there was no overwhelming consensus for any move. – PeeJay 03:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

• OIC, it's the women's league that heavily influenced the move. I'd say that it's fine at Bundesliga (women). Is there an urgent need to strive for consistency here? -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 04:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

See Bundesliga (and my comment to The Rambling Man above). I don't see any further problem, since the article was re-moved (as requested) yesterday. Miniapolis 12:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Fashion Copy Editing

Will do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nishitpatira (talk • contribs) 10:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Miniapolis 14:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Underdog

Hi! I noticed that you closed the RM at Talk:Underdog (competition), moving the dab page to Underdog (disambiguation) and leaving Underdog as a redirect there. Doesn't that go directly against the usual naming of disambiguation pages? If there's no primary topic I believe the dab page should be moved back to just Underdog. Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 21:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

You're right. Thanks for the heads-up; I've moved it back. I think Underdog (competition) (or wherever it ends up :-)) is the primary topic based on usage, but there was no consensus. All the best, Miniapolis 01:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Jafeluv (talk) 06:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Copyedit request

Well I don't what is your problem with me as I didn't ever talked to you in high tone nor bad mouthed about you. Well, I know I'm quite immature as a person. I even know that sometime, I behave like a kid but, trust me its not my fault as I'm the way I'm. I can't help it but, could only apologize to you for my behavior towards others. Sorry again. Meanwhile, my request is near the top position on GOCE. I would be more than happy if you could give it a thorough copy edit. I have waited to reach it near top. So, you could copy edit it. Also, I plan to nominate it tomorrow for GA as I want it to pass GA on 26 May (one month after its release). Please, copy edit it as it is very small article. Thank You.:)Prashant! (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Hi Miniapolis, I've replied to Prashant on his talk page. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Baffle; I was struck speechless :-). All the best, Miniapolis 23:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

User: Prashant!

Hi, Miniapolis. I believe that you have interacted with this user on several instances before. I have too, and because of a constant barrage of personal attacks against me here and here, I was forced to take a month-long break from Wikipedia. Anyway, I have avoided interacting with him at all costs since then, and today I find that he has complained against me here and posted an extremely abusive message for me on his talk page. I am seriously fed up of his behaviour, and I would appreciate any kind of help on this matter. --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 11:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

And the award for misintterpreting things goes to Smarojit. Don't open old files. I bet you were that IP or may be your friend. Don't lie. Its not a co incident that you decided to get back on the same day on which I abused that IP. Because, you or your relative were behind that post. It can't be co-incident.Prashant! (talk) 12:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

@Smarojit, there's not much personally I can do because I'm WP:INVOLVED, but it may be time for an WP:RFC/U. @Prashant, please don't post any more on my talk page. Miniapolis 13:39, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Miniapolis. :) --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 10:10, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:New Year (song)

Arguments from opposition and from proponents of the proposal were balanced to me. Why else moving it besides no other articles? --George Ho (talk) 08:51, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Think we interpreted that discussion differently; I found the arguments unnecessarily heated and ad hominem ("You are wrong, just like you were wrong..." has no place in a discussion). Avoiding excessive disambiguation is an article-naming convention, and the Sugababes song is currently the only "New Year" song with a separate article. When that situation changes, we can revisit this; in the meantime, move review is thataway. All the best, Miniapolis 14:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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Aashiqui 2

Hi Miniapolis, just to let you know that I'd begun copy-editing the article, but I obviously forgot to mark the request as such. Feel free to work on it though; two heads may be better than one when it comes to straightening out the prose (I've already had a note from Prashant [1] about my misinterpretations!). Sorry for the mistake; I was a bit tired when I started. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 19:47, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Not to worry, Baffle, I'll just move on to the next article. That list never seems to get shorter...:-) All the best, Miniapolis 20:31, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that :-) That's because once their requests have been fulfilled, most of the regular requesters add more to the list. It's like a revolving door! :-D Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

That's for sure. I guess it's a compliment for what we do, but you're right about the revolving door :-). Thank you (it'll be my turn again soon, I'm sure) and all the best, Miniapolis 21:14, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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