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Blending Leo X sandboxes

Hi. I see what you did, but I did intend to create a new userspace page for drafting. I think it important to keep discussion of the draft separate from the general discussion. As you can see, the general discussion is already quite long and will get longer, so I very much wanted to keep a wall between the two activities. To forestall similar activity by other administrators, should I change the name of the new userpage, do you think, to, e.g., /sandbox/Leo X [drafting sandbox] ? In any event, would you revert what you did, please. Ridiculus mus (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ridiculus mus: The title doesn't really matter— the problem was you created that page in the article space and not the user space when it was intended for the latter. So, all you need to do is create another userspace page. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't realise I had created the page in the article space. My apologies. I hope I have now done what I intended to do in the first place. Ridiculus mus (talk) 20:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

well

I'm not sure if you've read my reply to you in my talk page, but I want to apologize for the... anger, I guess. I was in a bad mood in real life too, to be honest. I'll try to relax more now and not to worry about things that aren't worth it. It'd be much better if I hadn't replied to John at all. Well, that's it. I hope you don't have a bad impression of me. See you around (ping me if you intend to reply) Tetra quark ^(talk) 03:58, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tetra quark: Thanks. Apologies feel rare here sometimes, and genuine ones even rarer, so I appreciate you stopping by. I'm glad you are going to try and relax, and I agree it is important to let some disagreements go rather than prolong them. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 21:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Deborah Sampson article

An IP vandal has been attacking the Deborah Sampson article. Can you take a look at it? TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Ugh, thanks. The edits come from a school-based IP that has a history of vandalism. They've been blocked for three months. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:05, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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Adjusting pilot start date - WP:Co-op

Hello I JethroBT,

I'll be putting out a formal update sometime soon, but I wanted to inform you that I've decided to push our start date back to mid-February rather than in January. There are number of reasons for this, but the biggest factor is that we are now facing the hard work of implementing our designs on the Mediawiki interface. It's a limiting environment to work with from a web-building perspective, and the team that worked on the Teahouse can offer similar testimonials to these challenges. We also want to make sure there is time for us and for you to test the environment out, ask questions at our project's talk page, and give us a little time to make any last changes before we start inviting editors to the space. If some of you know you will be unavailable during this time, it's totally fine if you need to bow out for the pilot. But we do need all the mentors we can get, so even if you can take the time to mentor just one or two editors, that would be fantastic.
Thanks a bunch, I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} on behalf of Wikipedia:Co-op.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	For helping novice sort through the processes in a kind way, suggesting where an article would benefit from change, and taking time to give examples! Thank you JendaAJ (talk) 16:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@JendaAJ: Thanks Jenda, I appreciate it. I hope your first month editing here has been decent; let me know if there's anything I can give you a hand with. And thanks for your work on the Vernon O. Johnson article! I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

JendaAJ (talk) 03:49, 2 February 2015 (UTC) Jethro, yes, it was an interesting experience. I learned much about Wikipedia, in part thanks to you for your care. In the process i also learned more about the man, which increased my respect for him. I believe at this point all the points have been addressed. QUESTION: How do I move to have the two “multiple issues” removed? Your fan JendaAJ (talk) 03:49, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

RfC - Helper Script access

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Is there any thought to including outreach to women editors in the mentor program?

I joined this project around a week ago: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force and so far I've been a bit disappointed that not much is happening that I consider meaningful (e.g., people are arguing over icons). I was wondering is there any thought to including outreach to new women editors in the mentoring project? Or perhaps some collaboration between the two projects? I realize there is a risk here that the more you dilute things and try to make a project all things for all people it ends up being nothing useful for anyone but just thought I would raise the issue. Although I'll be out for a couple days (at least) starting monday when I get back I would be eager to pitch in if that seems like a good idea to you. If you don't want to add more stuff into the mix though I perfectly understand that as well. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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Any idea what this is?

SCIENDIGIT (talk · contribs) appears to have copied your user page, and made it their own (with modifications). Thought you might want to look into it -- Orduin ^Discuss 22:55, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

FYI

See here. I removed the admin topicon and mention of being an admin. Handle things as you please. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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Draft New Article - Sir Andrew Flamock

Hi Jethro,

I have started a draft article for the Tudor Courtier Sir Andrew Flamock in my sandbox. I believe he is noteable primarily for his notorious schoolboy humour gaffe made to Henry VIII about Anne Boleyn but he also played his part in various other Tudor actions particularly as the Kings Standard Bearer. If you google Andrew Flamock and Andrew Flammock you will see he pops up in literature, comedy and historical contexts.

Do you agree he is worth his own page as I don't want to spend time writing something only for it to be deleted?

Sliven2000 (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sliven2000: Sorry for the slow response, I've been visiting family. If I have time today, I can check it out and give you my impressions. Otherwise, it'll need to wait until after this weekend as I'll be away from the Internet. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:09, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

@I JethroBT: Hi Jethro, this weekend is fine. Having thought about it some more, although Andrew Flammock tale is interesting it is what his tale tells about Henry VIII and Tudor politics which is most important imo, i.e.

• 1 - Henry had a coarse sense of humour when it suited him
• 2 - His sense of humour failure with the crude jest about Anne Boleyn demonstrates he really did love her
• 3 - Henry's subsequent forgiveness and promotion of Andrew Flammock after the beheading of Anne Boleyn demonstrates the fickleness of Tudor politics

Let me know your first impressions this weekend and if you have any questions let me know. Sliven2000 (talk) 13:13, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Taiko FAC

Hi -- just a note to say how much I'm enjoying reviewing the taiko article. I hope you're not annoyed by my occasionally OCD comments; I think it's a fine article and am sure it's going to get promoted this time through.

I've completed another pass through your comments and left a few more notes. No need to ping me when you work on it; I have it on my watchlist and will be checking in throughout the weekend. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:26, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Got it. And no, your comments have been much appreciated. I think it's extremely important to get perspectives from folks who aren't familiar with the topic, particularly for readability. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 16:33, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Anthony J. Tata article

Do you think the article on Anthony J. Tata has been expanded enough to qualify for a DYK? PMML's new Wikipedian in residence has worked on it quite a lot recently. TeriEmbrey (talk) 17:44, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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WP:Co-op news for December 2014 – Feburary 2015

Hey I JethroBT, it's been a while. The Co-op team has been hard at work during over the winter, so let's get right into what's been happening:

Landing page draft. You know it's a draft when you need to squint at the logo, ha ha.

• Graphic design work is nearing completion and development work is coming along slowly but surely. The main components of the space, profiles, the landing page, and the mentor landing page have all been built, and we're basically just putting the pieces together. We have close-to-final draft of the landing page, which is currently at User:Slalani/Landing_page, and in the thumbnail to the right. You can check out other components over at User:Slalani if you're curious. Soni, Slalani, and I are working together on some of the front page elements. We've also been doing some testing on test.wiki.x.io for profile building and matching. If you're curious about checking that out, let me know.
• We've finished up a survey for newer editors to assess their experiences of using existing help spaces (e.g. Reference Desk, Teahouse, IRC, The Wikipedia Adventure) on en.wikipedia. Gabrielm199 is putting together a summary of that survey, and in the meantime, some findings from that survey of 45 newer editors include:
  • On average, editors found contributing to Wikipedia to be easier after using the help space compared to before.
    • However, after using one or more help spaces, only half of editors reported that editing, addressing social challenges, and resolving technical issues were easy or very easy. The other half of editors were either neutral, or reported that these matters were difficult or very difficult.
  • Just under 30% (11 of 38 editors) of newer editors said they probably would have stopped editing entirely had they not received support from the help space they used.
  • Editors frequently reported either 1) that they would not have been learn what they needed without the help space, or 2) That they could have found it, but admitted that it would have been difficult or taken much longer.
• We will be making one final move of the pilot start date to March 4th, 2015. This is the last move (I promise), because we can't afford to run the pilot any later than that. So there it is: March 4th or bust! But we won't bust, because there are just a few things left on our plate before we can run our pilot successfully. I'll be alerting you about when you will be able to make mentor profiles soon, so when you get a message about that, please take a minute or two to create your profile here (otherwise, you won't get matched to any editors!).

Thanks to all of the new mentors who have joined over the past few months. Big thanks to Missvain to posting about our little project here to the gendergap-l mailing list. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 00:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC) on behalf of Wikipedia:Co-op.

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Valentine Greets!!!

Valentine Greets!!!

Hello I JethroBT, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve, Happy editing,  - T H (here I am) 12:06, 13 February 2015 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Valentine Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Chicago Meetups in 2015?

Hey Jethro - I know you're active in the meetups scene. Any ideas for what/when the next one will be? Looks like there hasn't been a lot of activity on the page lately. Drummerdg (talk) 07:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Drummerdg: Yeah, let me talk to TeriEmbrey about when we might arrange our next meetup, and if it's a little ways away, we can consider doing one at another venue like Harold Washington Library or one of the local Chicago libraries. Suggestions are also welcome! I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

@Drummerdg: and et al. Let me check with PMML's event staff and our current Wikipedian in Residence on when would be a good day. In the past, we've held them on Saturdays. TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:36, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Sounds good. Drummerdg (talk) 06:56, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@Drummerdg: and @I JethroBT: Staff at PMML likes a Saturday in April. So, how does April 18th sound? I need to know that experienced Wikipedians will be here to help run it on whatever day gets chosen, before I request a block on the time/space on our internal calendars. TeriEmbrey (talk) 17:52, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: I'm not entirely sure I'm "experienced", though I appreciate the sentiment! Of course if @I JethroBT: needs some help, I should be able to lend a hand. Personally, I don't have anything at all lined up for April and can clear that day. Drummerdg (talk) 05:13, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey and Drummerdg: April 18th works well for me. Did we have a theme or topic in mind? What sort of events will the Pritzker be holding around then? I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 15:01, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@I JethroBT and Drummerdg: The April book club book is Sgt. Reckless by Robin Hutton. It is the end weeks for the Navy SEALS exhibit as the Summer exhibit follows the career of Erasmus Corwin Gilbreath who fought in the the Civil War, the Indian Wars, and the Spanish American War. I am not tied to any one theme as there is so much to do to make Wikipedia better. Glad to hear April 18th works for everyone. TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Meetup Chicago

I was wondering if I could help coordinate a photowalk or some other event in Chicago since it is so difficult to coordinate one in St. Louis. I will likely be in Chicago the last week of March, which is coming up fast, but I can usually make an excuse to be there in the summer or whenever. Best, Mark Schierbecker (talk) 18:42, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Mark Schierbecker: Yeah, let's make that happen! I think it'd be better to schedule this for the summer. I've actually just scheduled some edit-a-thons in late March and mid-April in the Chicago area, so I think a photowalk would be better to run in the summer. So far, I'll only be unavailable in July for Wikimania in Mexico from July 15-19th. Maybe we can shoot for something in June? I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 05:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

That sounds good. I'll make sure to get back with you sometime in March. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 22:12, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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GAR for Sunil Kumar Verma

Dear I JethroBT, nice to read the history of your name! You wrote it was Bot before and now 'BT' and that BT has no specific meaning. in India BT means 'Basic Teacher'. That is a well known degree title here, and the one who completes BT become Basic Teacher and writes 'BT' after their names.

Well, I was referred to you (here) by @Jim Carter:. I shall be grateful if you could help in GAR of my another article Sunil Kumar Verma. It has just been checked and 'Copyedited by Philg88 and before that by W.carter and me. All the issues raised in GA (here) have been addressed and seems to be ready to go now! Your help would be highly appreciated. rgds. Educationtemple (talk) 08:41, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Hah, that's interesting. Never knew about that particular degree title. As for the GAR, I'm interested, it'll have to wait until after this weekend-- I'll be out of town and unable to use the Internet. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

OK. Cheers! Educationtemple (talk) 12:49, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Dear JethroBT, could you please find some time to review Sunil Kumar Verma as you promised. I shall be grateful. Educationtemple (talk) 12:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Thanks for the reminder; other priorities caught up to me this past week, but I am very sorry for inconveniencing you. I will check it out this evening. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Jethro. Once you finish all comments, I shall try to address them one by one. So, please go ahead and finish the review as per your convenience of time. Thanks again. Educationtemple (talk) 19:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Draft New Article - Sir Andrew Flamock

Hi Jethro,

I have started a draft article for the Tudor Courtier Sir Andrew Flamock in my sandbox. I believe he is noteable primarily for his notorious schoolboy humour gaffe made to Henry VIII about Anne Boleyn but he also played his part in various other Tudor actions particularly as the Kings Standard Bearer. If you google Andrew Flamock and Andrew Flammock you will see he pops up in literature, comedy and historical contexts.

Do you agree he is worth his own page as I don't want to spend time writing something only for it to be deleted?

Sliven2000 (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sliven2000: Sorry for the slow response, I've been visiting family. If I have time today, I can check it out and give you my impressions. Otherwise, it'll need to wait until after this weekend as I'll be away from the Internet. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:09, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

@I JethroBT: Hi Jethro, this weekend is fine. Having thought about it some more, although Andrew Flammock tale is interesting it is what his tale tells about Henry VIII and Tudor politics which is most important imo, i.e.

• 1 - Henry had a coarse sense of humour when it suited him
• 2 - His sense of humour failure with the crude jest about Anne Boleyn demonstrates he really did love her
• 3 - Henry's subsequent forgiveness and promotion of Andrew Flammock after the beheading of Anne Boleyn demonstrates the fickleness of Tudor politics

Let me know your first impressions this weekend and if you have any questions let me know. Sliven2000 (talk) 13:13, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jethro, Any chance you could have a quick look at the Andrew Flammock article soon please? I've just had to unarchive this as it got zapped by some bot! Sliven2000 (talk) 14:52, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sliven2000: Is the draft at User:Sliven2000/sandbox? There are no sources on the article right now, so until there are, I can offer nothing helpful in terms of advice. I don't have time right now to do research or build articles, so you'll have to find these on your own. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 14:57, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

@I JethroBT: Yes it is in my sandbox. The refs are original sources like the Patent Rolls etc plus contemporary books which you probably will not be able to access without going to a History Library. Is there a history community on here who might have a view? Sliven2000 (talk) 13:58, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Sliven2000: If these are primary documents, they can definitely be used to verify those details, but I'm concerned about Sir Flamock's notability. Documents patent rolls generally don't provide the kind of coverage that's needed for biographies. The contemporary books, however, sound more promising. I would recommend beginning to add those books in to the article. Sources don't need to be online, so start adding them in whenever you can. To get back to your original question about whether it's worth your while to write this, you need to ask yourself whether there is in-depth coverage of the subject based on reliable sources. My opinion is that I don't have enough information: The points you've brought up above do not suggest notability, but you've said there are contemporary sources, so maybe. As for a community of editors, WikiProject Royalty and Nobility might be a good place to get feedback. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 05:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Co-op

Hi Jethro. Based in Thailand, it is going to cost me an abolute fortune to attend my 4th Wikimania in a row, this time round I will have to base my decision to attend in Mexico strictly on the quality of, and personal interest level in the proposed presentations. I would like to know as soon as possible if your Co-op presetation has been retained for Mexico and that you will definitely attend. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Certainly. I'll let you know as soon as final decisions about submissions are made, which are due to be sent out on 1 April 2015. I appreciate your interest in my submission, and hope to see you there if everything works out. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 00:08, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not signed up as a developing participant of your Co-op project but I am extremely interested in it and it has my full, but tacit support. I might however give you some feed back if I get time over the next few days. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey, Jethro, will you attend if your presentation is not accepted? Jim Carter 05:05, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Jim Carter and Kudpung: Yes, I'll go even if my presentation is not accepted. The outcome of my scholarship application is more relevant to me— if I do not get it, I will still go, but only for part of the conference rather than the full five days. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 05:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Chicago ArtAndFeminism Editathon, March 7

Not sure if you're already aware of this, if you like we can put you in touch with the event organizers there: Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago/ArtAndFeminism 2015.--Pharos (talk) 17:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Pharos: Dang. Sadly, I'll be out of town for this event, but I can publicize on the WP:CHICAGO talk page and see if I can get a mass message out. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:07, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you or @Keilana: have a good idea of a particular Wikipedian we can maybe introduce to the Art Institute people by email before the event?--Pharos (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Seeking help with attribution and paraphrasing

Hello! You don't know me, but Lightbreather mentioned you as a possible lead in helping me find some help at Rose-Baley Party. Specifically, there have been some concerns about my paraphrasing, sourcing, and attribution. I think much of the problems are already resolved, but I need a neutral second or third opinion on the current state of the article regarding these points, as well as any relevant advice moving forward. Thanks! Rationalobserver (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

@Rationalobserver: Thanks for coming to ask. I'm a bit occupied this evening, but I'll check over the talk page to see what's going on. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 19:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Rationalobserver (talk) 19:24, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you sooooo much for helping me! I was wondering if you read the entire article, or did you just focus on that one section? If you did, do you think it's decent? Do you think the rest of the article has sufficient attribution and paraphrasing? Rationalobserver (talk) 23:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome! I didn't read the whole article, just that particular sections because it seemed the most problematic. I'm a little strapped for time right now because of both this mentorship space I am piloting soon and off-wiki matters, so I can't devote time to reviewing the whole article for a bit. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Does that mean you will review the entire article when you have more time? Rationalobserver (talk) 19:35, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

@Rationalobserver: I will. I would say once March is over, I will definitely have more time, though I will visit the article if I find myself with some spare time. It does seem like you are getting a lot of feedback right now though, but if you prefer I give it a once-over, I can do that. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:18, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Whatever works best for you, I JethroBT (can I call you Jethro?). If you are too busy right now then feel free to do it when things calm down, as I'd rather get you at your least time-constrained. Having said that, it would be really nice to have someone dispel the concerns sooner rather than later, but I'll be equally appreciative for whatever time and effort you can afford me, now or later. Rationalobserver (talk) 21:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

@Rationalobserver: Yeah, you can call me Jethro. And I realize when you're improving an article, you want to get feedback sooner rather than later, but please remember there are no deadlines. Keep in mind also that I am by no means the best person to ask about article work-- yes, I've written some and some of them have green blobs. But if this and this are any indication, I have a lot to learn. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 22:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

By all means take your time, Jethro. I don't want to pressure you, as I appreciate your help. None of us are perfect, but some of us are nicer than others! Rationalobserver (talk) 22:38, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

When you're ready, I've opened Wikipedia:Peer review/Rose-Baley Party/archive1. Rationalobserver (talk) 19:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

CO-OP mentor template improvements

The image template needs some lua work- it may work for portrait images but it doesn't perform in landscape. And there are a whole host of reasons why the image would be in landscape. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 14:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: Hey Clem, thanks. Yeah, I am aware of the problem, and it just looks plain bad. Jmorgan (WMF) will be addressing this, and I've made a task that explains this issue here on Phabricator (the newer bugzilla basically). I would do it myself but I am not familiar enough with Lua to do so. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:02, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

The issue is CSS border-radius property, not Lua. I can address it if you'd like, but it will have to wait until after Wednesday. Others are welcome to experiment with solutions: the relevant CSS is on line #32 of this submodule. It works like a template; you can make changes and then preview them on a particular page that transcludes the module by pasting the URL of that page below the edit window. Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jmorgan (WMF): Fixed the issue. Thanks for the instructions! Seems that forcing the height of the image results in it being cut off for some reason, so I just removed the height parameter entirely. This does mean that long images are going to be longer, like on my profile, but that seems OK to me. I've also removed the gray circular background just because most images folks use are likely to be rectangular. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:37, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: See above-- WP:Co-op/ClemRutter is looking good. :) I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 09:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Linguistics editathons in Chicago July 2015

Hi Jethro!

I'm a linguist and I'm planning a series of editathons for July 2015 in Chicago to improve linguistics-related articles on Wikipedia, especially linguistics stubs, biographies of female and other minority linguists, and under-documented languages.

Background: I'm planning them for July 2015 in Chicago because that's when the four-week Lingusitics Summer Institute will bring several hundred linguists from many institutions to the University of Chicago for special courses, to attend conferences and workshops, and so on. The organizers of the institute have already agreed to give me space for editathons on Wednesday afternoons, the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th, which we've agreed is the best time in the schedule, as well as a seminar on how to use Wikipedia in the classroom. I'm hoping to not just improve linguistics-related articles, but also to increase editathon and Wikipedia expertise among linguists. I already organized an editathon in January at the Linguistics Society of America annual meeting, which went well (see report here), and I'm organizing another virtual editathon via the #lingwiki hashtag on Twitter for the last weekend in March.

User:The Interior sent me to you and User:Keilana because he thought you might be in Chicago in July and willing to come help out at the editathon (I'm fairly familiar with Wikipedia policy due to a long history of lurking, but it'd be good to have more expertise around, especially as I think we may get quite a few participants!). I'm also planning to apply for funding from Wikimedia for the Chicago editathons, so if you have any advice on that I'd certainly appreciate it! Thanks! --Gretchenmcc (talk) 23:46, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

@Gretchenmcc: Nice to meet you! July 2015 sounds good to me. I have a busy next couple of months of my own right now, particularly with this mentorship space I am piloting for a grant I'm on and a few edit-a-thons at the University of Chicago Library (March 21) and at the Pritzker Military Museum & Library (April 18). So, I probably won't be able to help too much with coordinating things during that time. But I'd love to come and help you advertise for the event. I often make basic event pages WP:Meetup/Chicago 9 like this one, for example. You can feel free to steal that and start setting up an event page as you start finalizing details. As for grants, Project & Event Grants are where you'll want to start for getting funds for an edit-a-thon. I have not applied for one myself yet, but I will likely be doing the same soon. Maybe we can help each other out on that as we get started. :) I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 08:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Cool, I'll check out the things you're working on! And even if you can just show up, that's great! (And any other editors you know in the area who like meetups and helping newbies.) I've been primarily organizing via conference-related sources, my blog, and other social media channels since my goal is to bring in linguists who aren't already editing (although quite a few have some wiki/WP experience, even though they aren't active), but I guess I should also have a WP meetup page by now. I'm thinking a centralized lingwiki page with sub-pages or subsections for the various different past/future editathons under the same umbrella would make sense -- do you think that would go under WP:Meetup, or somewhere else? And we can keep each other posted on the grants! Gretchenmcc (talk) 09:06, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

GA Review Sunil Kumar Verma Part II

Hello. I am still waiting for your comments please. Thanks. Educationtemple (talk) 15:00, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Dear I JethroBT, just to bring to you kind notice that I did some minor ce in UPT / DNA Barcoding section to make it bit simpler and clearer - replaced the word "priority" with "described earlier" as you also suggested in GAR. Hope this is OK.

Many many thanks for all your thoughtful and admirable suggestions and helping me to bring the article to GA status. Regards. Educationtemple (talk) 03:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Dropping out of Mentor Program

Just wanted to drop you a message, I've decided to drop out of the Mentor program. I had surgery a few weeks ago and although I'm recovering pretty well considering I just don't have much energy right now. I haven't been doing any editing or Teahouse stuff either. I'm afraid I might now be able to be responsive enough to do a decent job right now. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 20:58, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

@MadScientistX11: Hey, thanks for letting me know, and don't worry about it in the least. I'm very glad to hear that your surgery went well and that you're recovering. As for finding that energy, I recall a certain concoction in Back to the Future Part III got the Doc back on his feet. (Granted, it sent him immediately to watering trough...details, details.) Seriously though, I hope your energy comes back to you soon. :) I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 22:12, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Mentor question

I don't see my name on the mentor page. Did it get lost in the shuffle? Lightbreather (talk) 22:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

@Lightbreather: Hey Lightbreather. I moved that sign-up list over to this archive just to clear space on the talk page. Is that what you referring to, or something else? Also, I wanted to let you know that the Co-op isn't equipped to match editors to mentors based on gender. I think the idea of making those preferences available has potential, but it can't be implemented right now for our pilot because of the time left in our grant and the limited development resources available to me (if I knew how to do it myself, I would). I know you preferred to mentor female editors. Right now, I can only accommodate that preference to the extent that editors clearly identify as female and are seeking mentorship. When we incorporate automated matching into the space later, you'll be automatically matched to editors based on the kind of help they are seeking, regardless of their gender. Understanding this, if you are still willing to mentor, I appreciate any help you can offer. But I understand if you would prefer not to given the way this system is designed. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I was looking here, and I didn't see my name. That's why I's asked. Yes, I'd still like to mentor. Lightbreather (talk) 00:50, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Lightbreather: Looks like it's there now. Sorry about that-- not sure what happened. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 02:13, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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No big deal, but

[1] it's "he", "Amaryllis" refers to Hippeastrum, commonly known as the Amaryllis. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 17:05, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

@AmaryllisGardener: Oh geez, I'm sorry. Thanks for pointing it out, and allow me to fix the pronouns right away... I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

It's okay, happens all the time. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 17:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

New User, New Genre of Music

Hello, my name is John McIvor aka Blue Gnome Tree. I recieved your message; thank you! I joined Wikipedia because of my interest in vaporwave, a very new art/music culture that parodies the beginning of the digital age. It's a very hard genre to describe, however I'll tell you that the best way to get it is to look around a lot. It basically started as an internet joke on Tumblr, later becoming something diverse and artistically genuine. However, over the years it has evolved into something very different, and thus the page really needs to be fixed.

I'm also trying to introduce pages for all the big labels and artists in the scene, as the list given only accounts for *a few* of the early artists, who only started the scene but never stayed around. The so-called "philosophy" that the wiki page associates with vaporwave (Marxism, punk music) is also pretty ridiculous, as most people in the scene just seem to create it for their own reasons. Although this isn't an appropriate source, here is a good guide I found to vaporwave by Oscob if that will help you understand what it is that I'm talking about: http://oscob.tumblr.com/vapeop

If you could offer any suggestions to this draft I'm working on for a Dream Catalogue page (it's the biggest label in the scene), that would be much appreciated. I've already got a lot of stuff in there. Blue Gnome Tree (talk) 00:25, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Blue Gnome Tree: Hey thanks for your reply. I'm just going to move your comment over to your talk page; that way, your mentor will be able to see it easily. Generally, we try to create comment threads in one place, otherwise it can be kind of difficult to follow a discussion. I should have clarified that up front-- sorry about that. :) I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 00:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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I don't claim to be an experienced editor. I have in recent months begun to add material to pages, to add new pages and, after an unpleasnat experience when an article I had writtn was put up for AFD, to explore the AFD process by going down lists of articles for deletion, reading the arguments, figuring out the process. One of the things that amazes me is the frequency with which an AFD has been started by a Nom who makes a claim to have searched and found "no" or "only 1" source. Only to have it pointed out by other editors, sometimes me, that a totally rudimentary google produces sources. This is what the Nom in this case did. But I did not criticize her until sevearal days into the debate, where I was chatting with another editor on a tangent: What seemed to me the oddity of a writer as popular as Donovan on sites like GoodReads and Pinterest should lack a single fan with the inclination to improve her Wikipedia page (a quick glance as edits seems to indicate that before the AFD it was enhanced by publicists or by Donovan.) When TokyoGirl dd weigh in, it was by misquoting me. And, really, it felt like I had been hit by an avalanche of condescension, misquoting, and combativeness. Now, it feel like more of a ganging up, she calls in a bunch of cronies to jump on me. To me, this experience indicates, strongly, one reason why people don't join, or don't stay, or don't get involved beyond adding an occassional fact or page. Oh, and just fyi, if you doubt that people put up AFDs without googling at all, look at David Mikics, a page that I may return to improve, but that I put up merely because I was reading something he had written, wanted to read a page about him and didn't find one. Best.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@E.M.Gregory: I'm going to move your comment to your talk page in response to mine to keep the discussion centralized. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

VERITAS LANGUAGE SOLUTIONS

Hi Jethro, Pllease can you delete the above page?

I have added comments regarding the contributor "Picclopixxie" who I can see has been editing the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack798321 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jack798321: Are you affiliated with this company? Regardless, your behavior has been problematic for a number of reasons.

1. Disclosing non-public information about an editor on Wikipedia is against our policies. If you do it again, you will be blocked from editing indefinitely.
2. The internal affairs of Veritas Language Solutions / Planet Veritas are not really of consequence when it comes to the material we present on the article itself. We present information that is based on reliable sources. The claim about the company being wound up is supported by such a source. Unless there is evidence this claim is not factual, I'll ask you do not remove it. If there is such evidence, you should bring it up on Talk:Veritas Language Solutions.
3. Requests for the article to be deleted need to be based on a failure to meet notability criteria for organizations or the general notability criteria, and are not done simply by request. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

PMML Edit-a-thon

Has a draft page(s) advertising it been created? Can you copy what we did last year and just change the date? TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:23, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Sure, I can take care of that. Thanks, I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Alright, I've created an event page here. I'll start inviting folks soon. Feel free to make any changes required on the event page. Thanks! I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 21:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks! TeriEmbrey (talk) 21:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Ethnopharmacology

Hi, I JethroBT, thank you for helping me around Wikipedia. My main interest is to bring a balanced view on some articles which may seem to be somewhat unbalanced or even bias. All in all it is accurate and real information that I personally am interested in, as I think we all are. Thank you, and I will await my mentor to start to better my understanding of how Wikipedia works. THX --IngridBetancourt (talk) 21:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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Edit-a-thon at the Univ. of Chicago!

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Much obliged ;)

Greetings and salutations. Thank you ever so kindly for the nod for my musical RSVP. Since I can't be there, I did a bit of work tonight in Thalia Mara. The sentence attributing our Thalia Hall to Thalia Mara needs ...sourcing, perchance at the workshop? Best, --Mareklug ^talk 10:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

@Mareklug: Hey, both your fantastic RSVP and article work are much appreciated. I'll see if we can't add Mara to our shortlist of articles. :) I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 04:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Co-OP

Well, I hit the ground running. I guess it's on-the-job training which is OK by me. In this very earliest of stages there will be a lot of questions and answers. Is this, your talk page, the place to ask and receive? And to make comments on experiences and what-not that comes up? TY. Buster Seven Talk 22:09, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

• I'm not gonna hold hands crossing the street especially if I "get" that the editor has some experience. He had an "edit conflict message" about 45 minutes ago and now he's lost in the fog somewhere. Maybe I hit him with too much in the first 1/2 hour. My focus early on here with him is that he learn some really simple things first before we proceed....signing, using the edit summary, creating a user page...Basics. . Buster Seven Talk 22:21, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

  @Buster7: Thanks for dropping me a line, and yes, feel free to use this page if you have questions. Our team will be seeking feedback from mentors in the beginning of April to talk about their experiences. But any immediate concerns can definitely be brought here. For questions, you can also ask other mentors on the talk page, for many there have much more experience than I do in teaching editors one-on-one. I think it's good to focus primarily on what they want to learn. Yes, there are often basics to be taught, and I think it's good to teach those conventions, but only as they are needed. As for the editor having some experience, that's fine. Maybe the editor did some anonymous editing before he made an account. (I did before my start.) In any case, I think starting with those needed conventions first and then moving on to their specific need (about citation formats for websites) is sound. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 05:05, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Enthiran/archive2

I have opened the 2nd PR as the article's first FAC is withdrawn due to prose issues. Feel free to leave comments. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 13:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Congratulations on the successful Taiko FAC. That nomination had to take a few hurdles ;), but you have done a great job fixing all concerns quickly and thoroughly. GermanJoe (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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Edit-a-Thon

Hi, I JethroBT. April 4th has no conflicts for me, and the 25th may have conflict, but it's unlikely. I appreciate you checking which date works better for me, but don't feel obligated to book this around me. Upjav (talk) 19:44, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

• Ah, I thought you were asking about the 11th and the 18th, the two Saturdays between the 4th and the 25th... Anyway, I'll likely be in town the 18th, though I don't think that helps. If you're interested in promoting something, the main, national education conference is in Chicago that weekend, and the national geography conference is also in town either the week before or after—don't remember. czar ⨹ 20:00, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
  • @Czar and Upjav: The staff has also let me know that Sat., May 2nd is also available. Thoughts? I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:32, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Will keep it in mind, but my May is going to be hectic. April 18th works best for me, if the winds do change. Appreciate the heads up. czar ⨹ 20:38, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

@Czar: If that's the case, you'll be happy to know we have a different edit-a-thon we're having at the Pritzker on the 18th. I'll be sending out formal announcement about this one soon, but you can RSVP anytime. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 21:53, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

help

my talk page has disappeared. I was editing it when it happened. I am clueless. please help. John from Idegon (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Fixed it. the edit I was making saved and I was able to roll it back from my contributions list. that fixed it. must have wiped out some overhead coding I can't see? o well. it's all better now. John from Idegon (talk) 02:12, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

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I found you scanning the list of Teahouse editors and you sounded like a nice enough guy. I'd be grateful if you could either a)answer my questions, or b)point me in the right direction to get help. The Teahouse is probably not the most appropriate area to pose these questions, so my apologies. You did sound like someone who helps new users though. Ever since I discovered the Create a Book feature I've had a lot of problems with it.

1. How do you delete a book page that has no content? I made a mistake and then it creates another page with the mistaken title. But how do you completely clear the empty book user page?
2. Is it possible to see all your unfinished books listed somewhere?
3. Is it possible to preview the book before downloading or printing?
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5. Can you access another users main page by typing User:xxx somewhere? Where would you type in a user's name?

Thanks much, Bill Swamixyz (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

@Swamixyz: Hi Bill. I actually don' know a lot about the books function, but it looks like others have provided you with the answers you need. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:33, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

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A summary of a Featured Article you nominated at WP:FAC will appear on the Main Page soon. Was there anything I left out you'd like to see put back in? Could you check the article one more time before its day on the Main Page? - Dank (push to talk) 14:17, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Co-op

Hi Jethro, I think I saw right before last weekend I was assigned to another new user in the co-op, but seem to have lost the notification (I was away this past weekend). Could you possibly tell me who, and also do whatever it is you do such that I don't get any more assigned to me for a while -- real life is on an upswing, I'm afraid. Thanks. Go Phightins! 10:46, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

@Go Phightins!: It'll take me a bit to find the editor you were matched to, but I have categorized you not to be matched by going to your mentor profile and putting in a "1" in the unavailable= parameter. When you want to start mentoring again, you can just remove it. Thanks, I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry I was unable to figure that out; I thought we only got one editor at a time ... my mistake. Go Phightins! 22:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Welcome Rosemary to GLAM Pritzker

Can you welcome RosemarySullivan and maybe send her an invitation to the TeaHouse?

P.S. I an finishing up interviewing summer interns. So, we might have a good team this summer. TeriEmbrey (talk) 18:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Thanks for the update, and I'm happy to hear that the program has been productive! I'll be sending out invitations for our April edit-a-thon later today. I think we'll have a good turnout.  :) I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 18:44, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Ronn Torossian

Would you still have decided that there was a consensus to remove information in lead about Torossian's political commentary if you had known that one of the participants in the discussion (Juda S. Engelmayer) admitted (after he got caught) that he was a paid employee of Torossian, and other participants in the discussion have refused to say whether they get any money from Torossian or his activities? --Nbauman (talk) 00:07, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nbauman: I closed this discussion more than five months ago, not aware of that particular COI. That said, looking over the discussion again, I would have concluded in the same consensus that the information was not appropriate for the lead. Consensus is about looking at the weight of arguments, and I found comments from Jojalozzo and Huon to be compelling. Missing from that discussion was any evidence that his political commentary had garnered any independent coverage or review, which some other participants brought up. If such coverage has recently arisen, perhaps a new RfC should be opened up. As for the COI, editors with an invested interest are encouraged to restrict their contributions to the talk page of articles. Participation in the RfC was fine, but I would have arrived at the same conclusions with their participation because, again, no sources were brought up. Finally, I don't see any real basis for suspecting any other editors in that discussion to have a COI. I don't even see evidence that you've talked with any of these other editors about this matter. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 19:41, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

After Engelmayer got caught, we had a discussion about COI in which I and a second editor asked the other editors to declare whether they had a conflict of interest; they refused. We did discuss it, and the discussion was archived here https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:Ronn_Torossian/Archive_4 and elsewhere. His political commentary has garnered independent coverage and review. RavPapa said "there is no question that his political views are highly relevant and notable. They are discussed extensively in almost every one of the profiles cited - the NYT article, the Forward profile, the Atlantic piece". The quotes should have been in the article, but they may not have been because Torossian's defenders kept deleting them. This is the Atlantic piece. https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Ronn_Torossian&diff=626828387&oldid=626662450 I'm just a Wikipedia volunteer and I don't get any income from my contributions. I can't keep up with paid editors who might be getting $50 to $200 or more for their time (which is what I've heard is the going rate for PR, and Torossian probably bills much more). I don't think it's fair for somebody like Torossian to just have his staff scrub his Wikipedia page of all the well-documented outrageous and embarrassing things he said, by having them engage in endless edit wars and Wikilawyering, and creating a "consensus" among themselves. I was hoping to find an admin who could help me. Not easy. --Nbauman (talk) 03:28, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nbauman: Then let's try to resolve this at the talk page. I will start a discussion at the talk page later today, bringing up the sources that have been questioned. I think all of these sources need to be presented clearly and discussed as a whole rather than individually if the idea is that more weight should be given to these details. So far, all of these sources have been scattered and discussed in separate places. I can't even see links to some of them in the discussion. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:45, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

I work in medicine, and most of my writing is in medicine. In medicine, and in the medical journals, it is generally agreed that people who are employees or grantees of a company can't make objective judgments about that company's products. Even in the most objective scientific studies, people have to make judgment calls, and their judgment will favor their own company's product. That's what they're getting paid to do.

I see a similar situation here. There are a couple of people who want to make this a NPOV entry. We're swamped by people who are getting paid by Torossian. When you look at the talk page, you will see a long list of comments, by people who are working for Torossian, that seem reasonable. Of course. They're in the PR business. They're professional advocates. They're ignoring the facts that are buried in the archives. They're not trying to reach a consensus. They just want to keep going deleting everything unflattering about Torossian, including his own statements and what WP:RS say about him.

They're getting paid and I'm not. I can't keep up with them.

Discussing this as a whole will be a massive job. We've been through all these discussions already, and now they want to go through the whole thing all over again.

I think the issue is that when you're trying to see whether there's a consensus, you should discount the opinions of editors who get paid to post on Wikipedia. Torossian is buying favorable coverage on Wikipedia, and I think that's wrong. I've been trying to find Admins or somebody who agrees and can help me with that, (for example by not letting them arbitrarily use WP guidelines to justify their deletions), but I haven't been successful. It's discouraging. --Nbauman (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) i work at WP:COIN and had recently started watching this page, due to some stuff that came up at ANI about something else. (so hi!). Because I do COI stuff, my eye was drawn to this, and I read the history Nbauman describes and looked at the user Talk pages. I don't see that COi notices were given, nor a case brought to COIN or ANI or some community venue. After looking some, I did this last night and am interested as to what will come of it. (please just let that run and don't pile on - (you are of course free to, if you want))

But in general I think it is unfortunate, and harmful to everybody involved, to try to work out COI issues in the midst of a content dispute, on the article Talk page. It's better to bring it to the community, in my view... Please see How to handle a conflict of interest. Anyway it appears there may have been some basis for NBauman's concerns. We'll see. just my 2¢. Jytdog (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

note this filing at COIN. Jytdog (talk) 13:17, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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We talked about mentoring here and you responded to me specifically here. I am ready to talk. You had asked me about what I need help with. I will be happy to discuss with you if you have time and/or with @EuroCarGT: who appears to be off-line. David Tornheim (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

David Tornheim I am currently mentoring another user at the moment. I find that mentoring a user will lead to utilizing a lot of time, so unfortunately I am unable to mentor you at this time, perhaps I JethroBT could assist you through this mentoring process. Regards, ///EuroCarGT 01:59, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. :) David Tornheim (talk) 02:54, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

@David Tornheim: I've also been pretty occupied with mentoring, as well as conducting some analysis for the Co-op itself-- I lead the development of the project and the grant that funded the project is coming to close. I'll make a post over at Wikipedia talk:Co-op to find another mentor for you. Thanks for your patience, David. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 21:37, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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I decided I wasn't happy with my first effort, and gave it another shot. See what you think. - Dank (push to talk) 01:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Dank: I like your revisions for this second version. I just added a "CE" for the century for specification. I think one important detail to mention is that taiko refer to a large category of drums, and does not refer to just one specific drum (like the one in the picture). I was thinking about something like, Taiko are a large category of drums introduced to Japan through Korean and Chinese influence... What do you think? I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 06:09, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Excellent point, that really helps. I stole "a broad range of Japanese percussion instruments" from the article. I reverted "CE" ... Print sources more often leave it off (for the 6th century, anyway), and many Main Page readers won't know what it means. Both AD and CE generate a little drama, and who needs it. - Dank (push to talk) 13:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Dank: No problem on the CE thing. If it's going to just cause trouble, I'm fine without it. Thanks for the "broad range" addition. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 20:06, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations. Tremendous amount of work that went into this. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but it's great to have this. Excellent addition to our coverage of Japanese music. – Margin1522 (talk) 09:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Margin1522: Thanks! I'm grateful for the feedback you were able to give-- no need to apologize. The article has been a fun two-year project of mine. I remember that before I started editing it, there were almost no references for the entire article, and yet there was all this content to it. There was so much work to do, but I found myself pretty excited by the prospect of investigating and reading about it all. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:03, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Co-op

Hello, I JethroBT,
On my talk page, Cavalierman was mentioning getting a mentor and I thought of the Co-op. I don't know much about your program except you match up mentees and mentors but I saw you received a grant for setting it up so you might know the next step to take here. Thanks for any help you can provide. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Liz: Thanks Liz, I've sent an invite to the editor. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 09:32, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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imagine others complexly
Thank you, percussionist Jethro, for quality articles such as Taiko, Retrieval-induced forgetting, List of compositions by Paul Manz and John Robinson (aviator), for GA reviews and your essay imagine others complexly, for helping new users, responses to user feedback and for "It's a good life", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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@Gerda Arendt: This was very kind of you, Gerda. Life has been somewhat stressful for me lately, and so this was a great surprise! I am glad to be building this encyclopedia with awesome editors like you. Thank you. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 09:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I mentioned it here, infectious "good life" is very welcome! Sorry to hear that you need some yourself, best wishes for less stress, - I understand that drumming is good for that also! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Mary Edwards Walker article

Hi, I need help. A vandal has been repeatedly blanking the Mary Edwards Walker article and the bot can't keep up. How do we report it and get the content back? I might have asked this before, but I didn't save the info where I'd find it again quickly. It seems the biographies of women soldiers have been having this happen a lot over the last two months. TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Thanks for alerting me. I've blocked the editor for a period of six months, as there is a history from this IP location. You can report these cases to Administrator intervention against vandalism to stop the behavior. In terms of getting the content back, you can simply undo the removals or unproductive changes made to the article. See you this weekend! I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:09, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks! I've bookmarked the Administrator intervention page. For this weekend, did anyone ask for vegetarian or have another dietary restriction? I need to let Katie know so the food order gets placed. TeriEmbrey (talk) 17:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Nobody has mentioned anything, but I think it would be good to have 3-5 vegetarian options to be on the safe side. Thanks, I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 17:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks! TeriEmbrey (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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Are there any food allergies or special dietary requests for Saturday? Need to know asap. Thanks! TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:43, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: I'm a pescetarian. Nick Number (talk) 19:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nick Number: I know there will be a few veggie meals. Will that be ok? TeriEmbrey (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@TeriEmbrey: Yes, that will be fine. Thanks. Nick Number (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nick Number and TeriEmbrey: As Teri said above, there will be some non-meat options available. See you tomorrow! I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 19:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

On my way. Drummerdg (talk) 15:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)