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You blocked me from editing because I removed a genre "without a source" (and we are talking about the Just Like You by Three Days Grace one). Here is the thing though, I don't NEED a source because there was already a source saying it's a nu metal song, not a source for post grunge.

StockingFan15 (talk) 01:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@StockingFan15: First of all, I'm not an Administrator so I can not block anyone. My point had nothing to do with "reliable sources", my concern is that any change to genres require consensus, doing so w/o consensus is considered disruptive, which many editors have already warned you about, so looking at your editing history and lack of concern with the warnings given to you, you got yourself blocked. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 12:53, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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I would like to know why my edit on Zahi Hawass’ page has been removed, citing poorly sourced material, and defamation. It is not contentious that he refused to conduct this debate, it is referenced with a video of him refusing to conduct this debate (both published and reliable). It is relevant to the matter at hand (conflicts with other archaeologists), and it is most certainly not defamation if the words can be reliably attributed to him. The burden of evidence falls on the editor, and I would like to know how I have fallen short of this? Georgeadm (talk) 14:05, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@Georgeadm: YouTube is not a reliable source for a BLP article. Aslo @Joe Roe: gave you this reason. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:22, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

So to be clear, my edit has ultimately been removed because of JoeRoe’s personal distaste for Graham Hancock. Describing a bestselling author with numerous supporters with evidence from a variety of academic disciplines, as a ‘crank’, is unjustifiable as neutral editing.

Secondly, could you please refer me to any area defining reasonable sources for a BLP that excludes a YouTube video of the subject making the comments described? I feel there is a very significant side to this debate that is not being represented on political grounds, and I am yet to be provided with a valid reason for the removal of my changes. Georgeadm (talk) 15:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@Georgeadm: Why don't you go ask Joe Roe on their talk page. I gave you my reason, this discussion is closed. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:47, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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The Eagles

Contrary to what you believe, it is correct in American English to use "are" when referring to bands. It has also been the accepted use in the article. Yahboo (talk) 00:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Yahboo: Yes, I see your point, I guess we had an (edit conflict) between this post and my "thank you". Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Hellbastard

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Hello, when you were reverting my bad edits you reverted a link I made in Hellbastard for the opening genre. The sentence was: Hellbastard was a heavy band, and I improved it too: Hellbastard is a heavy metal band. I’m considering reverting that edit, is that alright? Sixty Minute Limit (talk) 01:02, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Sixty Minute Limit:  Done, but please review WP:NOTBROKEN. Please reply after you have reviewed it. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@FlightTime: I have reviewed it, thank you for the information.

You can’t have “Hellbastard is a heavy band”, it doesn’t give much information. :/ Sixty Minute Limit (talk) 01:32, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

It’s better to remove the word “heavy” and say “Hellbastard are a band”. Sixty Minute Limit (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Sixty Minute Limit: This is exactly what the talk page are for, don't make your argument here, do this on the article's talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 12:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

No one will answer me though. You are currently the only one that knows of this. That’s why I’m asking for your opinion on what to put in the openening sentence.

@Sixty Minute Limit: That's irrelevant, issues with articles are discussed on the article's talk pages, not on user talk pages. Please review Help:Talk pages - FlightTime (open channel) 13:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

The discussion on the existence of RABM is getting to a close, share your opinions and vote, if you could.

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Hey! I have some question to you. I know Rock n roll was developed in USA, but the 'Rock' this popular music genre was developed in UK because the brits make this genre prefect. However,you said that both development of rock n roll and rock music were developed by USA first. Why that?

Thank you.

Your sincerely, Clocker XunZiReturn (talk) 03:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@XunZiReturn: Take this to the article's talk page, not here. - FlightTime (open channel) 12:50, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

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But isn't macOS Mojave named after the desert? –Piranha249 17:52, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@Piranha249: Maybe, but still a computer has nothing to do with a desert. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:55, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Best Known for IP

I have closed your DRN report of the Best Known for IP as not a content dispute for DRN. As I noted in my close, this is a well-known disruptive editor who should be reverted and reported. Revert the edits, request semi-protection of the page, and report the IP to AIV, the vandalism noticeboard, noting that it is the Best Known for IP. (It doesn't matter that they may be right in any specific case that "best known for" is inappropriate. The whole behavior of this editor is inappropriate and is dealt with as a vandal.) Thank you for calling attention to this editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Again, thank you for your help. Cheers, - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 22:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

ANI regarding IP

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. @FlightTime Phone: This is regarding the IP you've been reverting. Home Lander (talk) 16:54, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

A message from 208.44.170.115 about the moe. (band) page

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I was only looking for unbiased views. It had nothing to do with with I thought they would think. Yes, I asked for support, and presented information to people based on the rules of Wikipedia. There is absolutely nothing wrong woth that. 208.44.170.115 (talk) 19:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, nothing wrong, that's why we created this useless policy page Wikipedia:Canvassing - FlightTime (open channel) 19:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

• I am looking for people to review the rules and vote accordingly. It seems that the aforementioned rules seem to support using the band's correct name for the article. I chose random, unassociated people. It seems that I may have even stacked the deck against myself, as no one has read the WP rules that were posted. Cheers! 208.44.170.115 (talk) 19:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

A Rose is a Rose no matter how you dissect it. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

• So, you agree with me. Thank you! 208.44.170.115 (talk) 20:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hardly. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:07, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

• According to the wiki page on canvassing, you have dealt with the issue and it's over. I was unaware of this rule at the time, and since have not posted anything on anyone's page. It is over. 208.44.170.115 (talk) 20:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Agreed (it was over, you're the one dragging it out. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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Wanted to update a new and recent image for the article Shubhangi_Atre Grimrakem (talk) 15:44, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@Grimrakem: That's fine, just bring it up on the article's talk page and seek consensus for the change. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 15:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Brian Bonsall

The article mentions him touring with the Ataris and it also mentions him playing in two other bands (this one however does not have a source). I guess what the 'years active section' is actually referring to is the film career, but despite that, it doesn't appear to count his music career which is currently ongoing, so I don't know if it should be left that way (maybe with an explanation saying that it's referring to his film career) or just put present to show he's still active (just not in film or television anymore).--73.240.105.138 (talk) 01:07, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Then you need to find a reliable source to support your claim of being still active, be it acting or music. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:16, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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Deleting a situation of your creation does not make it go away. —2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 19:51, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

I removed it per WP:DENY & WP:OWNTALK however, my reply is "if you think I was wrong, then simply start a discussion on the articles talk page", gain consensus and your edits will be replaced. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:58, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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A message from Braveb1rd PokeMC

Hi, thank you for your message on my edit of the page of Freddie Mercury. First of all I'd just like to point out that despite having an account for a while, I've never actually used the talk feature so if I've done anything wrong, I apologise in advance. My edit on the Freddie Mercury article was not intended to be a test. I made the edit as his legal full name was Frederick Mercury. Using almost every other article I have seen on Wikipedia as a basis, I changed it to his full name. This has been something I have been looking at for a while, as I made a similar edit to the same page several months ago where it appeared to be fine until recently when it was changed. I hope that I have explained my point well, please let me know if I haven't made it clear enough or if you believe that your reversal of the page should still stand. Thanks for reading my message. --Braveb1rd PokeMC (talk) 23:23, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Braveb1rd PokeMC: You're fine. After looking through the page history, it seems it got mixed up with the way it used to read Frederick "Freddie" Mercury someone removed Frederick not knowing that should of not been done. The correct edit should of been removing Freddie per WP:NICKNAME. All's good now. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Go Your Own Way

I've never needed a consensus on any previous song article I've edited and left a reference for regarding genres, so why the consensus on this one?

(Talk) Nonstopmaximum (talk) 18:48, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nonstopmaximum: All genre changes require consensus (mostly it has to do with the reference(s) used), since I've been here. Never know it to be any other way. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:53, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@FlightTime: According to a message left by SummerPHD on my talk page it says I need a source or consensus for genre changes, not both unless that is an oversight on his part. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@SummerPhDv2.0: Would you like to comment here ? - FlightTime (open channel) 19:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

The message I left was the consensus template uw-genre2.

That said, iTunes (and similar) is not a reliable source for genres as it is added by an algorithm and are not subject to editorial oversight. - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:06, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

That's the main one I leave also, I prefer it's wording Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. - FlightTime (open channel) 09:31, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@SummerPhdV2.0: Not only do I respectfully disagree with that statement, but I find it a little silly to think that the genre of a song is added by an algorithm on there. Most, if not all descriptions for songs on the site appear unique in structure and I simply find it hard not to believe that editor oversight is observed. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 2:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nonstopmaximum: Since you find this silly, regardless two editors are challenging the reliability of your sources, therefore your next avenue is to start a discussion on the article's talk page and seek consensus, which is your best chance, 98% of the time community consensus trumps policy/guidelines on Wikipedia. Good luck. - FlightTime (open channel) 09:31, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Mariana Trench

Please read WP:CALC. 93.136.114.197 (talk) 23:37, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't need to read that, either source you changes or discuss them on the article talk page to reach consensus. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:42, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

It would be very informative, but as you wish. 93.136.114.197 (talk) 23:59, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:02, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Sometimes I wonder why I bother editing articles anymore. 93.136.114.197 (talk) 00:14, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Rotated Alan Clark image

Thanks for pointing the problem with the Alan Clark photo. Probably the simplest way forward would be if some admin could speedy delete and then I could upload an unrotated version. Thanks! AnOpenMedium (talk) 11:10, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@AnOpenMedium: You can request deletion since you're the uploader, see WP:G7 - FlightTime (open channel) 11:17, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that's why I wrote to you. Or should I send the request elsewhere? Sorry, not sure what you're saying. AnOpenMedium (talk) 11:23, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@AnOpenMedium: If you would like I can make the request for you. - FlightTime (open channel) 11:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, I'd be most grateful as I've never done this before (and hope never to have to do it again). AnOpenMedium (talk) 11:47, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 11:53, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

June 2018

Hello User:FlightTime you recently reverted this edit Heal The World, there's clearly nothing wrong with it, they were fine. 119.94.84.13 (talk) 13:38 25 June 2018 —Preceding undated comment added 13:39, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Two editors have reverted your changes, which means you need to seek consensus on the article talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:43, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

How could I forget?!

The suavest Pew of them all :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:38, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@MarnetteD: LOL,LOL, LOL. Thanx I needed that :) - FlightTime (open channel) 14:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

You are most welcome FT. Best wishes to ya. MarnetteD|Talk 14:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Welcome

Ur welcome. ARMcgrath (talk) 22:01, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Reason for Undoing Your Edit

I undid your edit on the Identity Evropa talk page [1] because your archival resulted in a series of edits which removed the table of contents. It is a fairly long talk page so it has become more tedious to navigate now. I should have included this in my original summary, no mean to cause confusion. Barbarossa139 (talk) 23:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@Barbarossa139: I just set up auto archiving and archived some old threads, which has nothing to do with navigation. The link you gave just goes to the talk page and not your revert. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:07, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Warning you gave me

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Why have you warned me for edit-warring and not Beyond My Ken when we have both made two reverts? I am trying to remove content added to the article about the most notorious anti-semitic forgery in history by an editor who was given an indefinite block today partly for edits which show " a strong undercurrent of anti-semitism" [2],Beyond My Ken insists on keeping these additions in.Smeat75 (talk) 00:36, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

@Smeat75: Because I fell Beyond My Ken is correct, the article should stay in it's version before the issue started (see WP:STABLE). If the edit war continues they will be warned also (well at that point it will go to WP:3RRN anyway). - FlightTime (open channel) 00:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

(ec) Smeat75: I'm sorry, but you misrepresent my position. I take no stance on the edits you reverted, I simply insist that you justify their removal on the basis that they do not improve the article, or that they violated policy, or that they otherwise degraded the article. You cannot remove edits simply because the editor who made them has been blocked, your revert must in itself be justified on the talk page. So far, you have not done that. If you do adequately explain why those edits should be removed, that will be a different story. I'm waiting for you to do that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:42, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

"they do not improve the article" because they were written by an editor blocked partly on the basis of edits that demonstrate "" a strong undercurrent of anti-semitism".Smeat75 (talk) 00:53, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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A message from 75.141.115.16

"Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Rate Your Music, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:04, 25 June 2018 (UTC)"

My edit was cited. The citation didn't change from what it was, it links to a constantly updating list. @FlightTime:

75.141.115.16 (talk) 01:16, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok, an edit summary would of helped. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

sorry, not too good with Wikipedia, I'll get it next time 75.141.115.16 (talk) 01:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

NP. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:22, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hey! I have some question to you. I know Rock n roll was developed in USA, but the 'Rock' this popular music genre was developed in UK because the brits make this genre prefect. However,you said that both development of rock n roll and rock music were developed by USA first. Why that?

Thank you. Your sincerely, Clocker XunZiReturn (talk) 04:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

@XunZiReturn: Fine, please start a discussion on the article's talk page and get some input from other editors. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 10:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

I wanted to respond to your edit summary, because I'm very careful about other people's talkpage comments. This edit [3] was probably a better way to fix the error (and I'll confess I didn't think of the reflist template), but my edit fell within the acceptable range of "Fixing format errors" that allows for editing other's talkpage comments. Grandpallama (talk) 11:17, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Grandpallama: NP. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 13:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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Liviut11101 (talk) 20:58, 27 June 2018 (UTC) @FlightTime: Hi FlightTime, I was simply quoting what's currently being published by Wikipedia. As I have mentioned, I find Wikipedia difficult to use. I have no idea what's private and public on those talk pages. Can this message be seen by everyone or just by you. My private information has become very important since a member of my family has become a victim of identity fraud.

@Liviut11101: YES, like you don't know, everyone in the world can see your talk page. "NOT BUYING IT" Troll - FlightTime (open channel) 21:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

WP:AGF would favor Hanlon's razor. Regular editors are tech proficient, but if any of the four other people in the room with me tried to leave this message:

• two would manage click "edit page" instead of editing the specific section and would not indent or sign until instructed on how to do so. One (not sure which) would probably put new sections at the top of talk pages (though putting replies at the bottom) until told to put them at the bottom.
• one of them would click "new section" for each response, never signing posts except for those immediately in response to warnings to do so, and probably lose every other post to the "show preview" button.
• one of them replace your whole talk page with one or two lines vaguely related to the topic at hand before segueing into a paragraph of general conversation about y'all's shared childhood experiences in 1930s Lexington, South Carolina (nevermind your own age or place of origin), before finally ending with a two-page prayer... and I'd say there's equal chances he'd either actually hit "publish changes," or hit "show preview" and close the browser, or hit "show changes" and close the browser, or just close the browser, or sit there waiting for your response to spontaneously appear in the edit window.

I'm guilty of failing to do the following, too, but I try to remind myself that it's a good idea to always assume new users were convinced that computers were just a sci-fi plot device until some point during or even after Clinton's second term (or, if they are clearly proficient, that they're not old enough to drink). Ian.thomson (talk) 21:26, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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A message from TheBBQbaconcheddar

Hello User:FlightTime, you reverted my edits on Three Dog Night's page, in which I linked Jay Gruska to his Wikipedia article. Could you let me know why you did that? I did a bit of research to make sure that he was truly the same guy as in the Wikipedia article, and he made a post on his website acknowledging his contributions to the band, so I don't see a problem. Thank you. TheBBQbaconcheddar (talk) 00:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC) TheBBQbaconcheddar (talk) 00:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

@TheBBQbaconcheddar: You did not include a reliable source for your change to the article, include one and you should be fine. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 17:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

A message from 200.144.29.196

200.144.29.196 (talk) 14:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC) Hello!. Please, let me have some fun, im very bored, don't block me please.

If you're bored, go to a movie and leave Wikipedia alone, Troll. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:20, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

User-talk pages

Can you advise me on a way to block annoying fascistic strangers who think they own my user-talk page from my user-talk page? That would be HUGELY useful. William Sherman, Esq. (talk) 14:51, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @William Sherman, Esq.: It would be more hugely useful if you stopped antagonizing and insulting editors who correctly point out edits like this are not acceptable. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

@William Sherman, Esq.: Wikipedia has a phrase for newcomers like you Troll. If you don't like what experienced editors say to you, maybe you should find another place to spend your time.l Cheers,

A message from 01jansen

Hello FlightTime,

In August 2017, you reverted my change to the "Loverboy" page. Here is my source, which states that the song 'Heaven In Your Eyes' peaked at #12 on the U.S. Billboard Charts: https://www.billboard.com/music/loverboy

Please reinstate my change at your earliest convenience. 01jansen (talk) 22:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

The Wikipedia page for 'Heaven In Your Eyes' also shows that the song peaked at #12. 01jansen (talk) 22:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

@01jansen: Ok, fine, but in the future please provide an edit summary to let others' know what you're doing. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:24, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

A message from Ave7578

Long-time reader, first-time editor.

I was listening to "Brown Street" by Joe Zawinul, wiki'd Victor & didn't see it listed on the page, so I added it & found others on AllMusic.com. What counts as a good source? AllMusic.com? Amazon? etc?

Thanks! Ave7578 (talk) 04:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ave7578: You need to source your claim, regardless. - FlightTime (open channel) 04:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Read More Carefully: Silkhenge

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You commented on my page, saying this lacked evidence of permssion. And yet the image description on its page says "Original sketch of a silkhenge structure, by moi." In other words, I drew it myself. I also tagged it "own work" and released it GFDL. How much more permissiony could it get? — Kaz (talk) 17:25, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Kazvorpal: Yes, please follow the directions on the template I left on your talk page and send your explicit permission to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. How is anyone suppose to know you're "moi"? Thank you for your contribution. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

"moi" is the french word for "me". "Pour moi" is a VERY well-known phrase among educated speakers of English, moi is almost a loan word. Good grief, Miss Piggy, a muppet in children's shows and movies, uses the term routinely. Perhaps you should have bothered to check into it. Or should work on learning more about how people communicate. And, as I said, it was already tagged "own work"/"GFDL" that should have been sufficient. — Kaz (talk) 20:36, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Kazvorpal: Sorry I don't measure up to your expectations, I'm only human, You? - FlightTime (open channel) 20:54, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Can you please comment on this issue. Re: File:Silkhenge-spider-egg (HD).jpg. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 18:29, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I think it's fine, and am declining the speedy deletion nomination. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:57, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Thank you for your help. @Kazvorpal: My apologizes. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:59, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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A message from Daeg Mornar

The sources for the genre of Korn is already written at the end of the sentence. Daeg Mornar (talk) 23:11, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Daeg Mornar: Nu metal is listed in the infobox, the lead (which you changed) stays as Heavy metal. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:16, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

So maybe you should put there a source. —Daeg Mornar (talk • contribs) 15:23, July 23, 2018‎ (UTC)

@Daeg Mornar: Don't need to, it's there by community consensus. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:26, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

RFPP

@Ponyo: Can you please semi my talk for rest of the day ? Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:31, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind, they have seemed to have stopped. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:56, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ponyo: They're back. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I see you're active, Can you please semi my talk until tomorrow eve and semi Ross Mathews I have reports at wp:rfpp, but no action yet. The IP adding unsourced info to Matthews is persistent and is harassing me. Thanx. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: this is why I was trying to get Ponyo. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:56, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

External links

Hello, On the article RMS Lusitania I didn't "just" remove the links because 1)- the article was tagged since 2015 so I had no idea we were all of a sudden in a rush. 2)- It is easier to edit the page and go through the list to see if some can be used in the article or be exchanged.

Sometimes there is a method to the madness right? Have a great day. Otr500 (talk) 01:18, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@Otr500: No problem. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:24, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Ping

To answer your ping, you can see my response to Widr here, but the short is: I do not consider "genre warring" (an essay basically made up by a WikiProject that does not have community consensus) as a reason to block absent actual edit warring, and I decline all reports to AIV on it unless there has been an actual behavioral policy violation, which in the majority of cases there hasn't been. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:59, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Thank you for your response. I just think it's ridiculous to open a thread an AN or ANI for disruptive editing. Many of my reports have been denied before for the same reason, it's frustrating, the problem still needs to be addressed. We need a Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against disruptive editing noticeboard. Again thank you. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:06, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't think they should be blocked at all in most cases. There is absolutely no policy-based reason to block a "genre warrior" absent repeated ignoring of consensus and actually trying to engage them. The best policy here is to revert and move on, or even better, find a source to source the change. Genre-warring is fundementally a content dispute, and administrative action is not warranted in content disputes unless it becomes actively disruptive. I *have* made these blocks before, but only after trying to engage with someone and see why they are doing it, and they ignored the discussion.

My suggestion is to wait until they actually edit war and then take them to ANEW. That's where we deal with people reverting against consensus, not AIV. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:18, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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