Extraordinary Writ

By far the funniest and most clever Wikipedia page I randomly stumbled on. Kudos. The fish genuinely made me laugh out loud — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumtimz I B Learnin (talk • contribs) 07:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Question from Zkhin-root (23:39, 8 January 2025)

Hello, is it possible to allow automatic advancements in theoretical physics? --Zkhin-root (talk) 23:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Zkhin-root, I'm not sure I understand the question—could you clarify? Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for the tag

But I just got the strangest message on my talk page. Bearian (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

No worries—thanks for the heads-up. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Please I need your assistance

@Extraordinary Writ please I want to create article for The Road Does Not End and A Future in Chains, please assist me check if any of them meet WP:GNG. Thanks and happy new year. Bagalamama (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Bagalamama. I think The Road Does Not End is notable: winning the Nigeria Prize for Literature would probably count as a "major literary award" under our notability guideline for books. A Future in Chains would probably be notable too since it's gotten a number of reviews, although you should be aware that some people are uncomfortable using the Nigerian press for notability purposes because of concerns about paid coverage. Hope this helps. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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January 2025

@Extraordinary Writ I can see that you deleted the page Lalan Chaudhary (politician) on the basis of a deletion discussion. Can you please give me the draft of that deleted article? XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

XYZ 250706, done—see Draft:Lalan Chaudhary (politician). Make sure to address the issues raised in the AfD before moving it back to mainspace. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Question from MaidKari (02:48, 18 January 2025)

hi am i able to write about an image or artwork i have done? and i hope other people cannot edit by description or image. --MaidKari (talk) 02:48, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello MaidKari. Unless your artwork has received attention from reliable outside sources (books, newspapers, magazines, etc.), it's not an appropriate topic for an encyclopedia. There are plenty of other websites where you can share your artwork with the public. As Wikipedia is the encylopedia anyone can edit, anything you do post here can be edited by others. Let me know if you have any other questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:49, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Navin Chaddha

Hi. I saw that you had deleted Navin Chaddha a couple of years ago after an AfD discussion. I wondered if it would be possible for you to check whether the current recently created article (that I'm reviewing as part of WP:NPP) is largely similar so as to merit speedy deletion, or sufficiently different? Thanks for your help. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Looks like this has been taken care of. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Off-wiki contact

You may get a late response from a barely notable person whose "page" you deleted. I tried explaining two different ways about our processes and limitations, but apparently common knowledge about Wikimedia isn't that common, and some people don't learn by reading (everyone has a mix of learning styles but this might be an extreme example). Bearian (talk) 15:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

It's about this. Can you see who created the article, and if so, share that information with me? Bearian (talk) 20:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

He wants, in so many words that he doesn't even understand, a WP:REFUND. I'm no longer a sysop, so I can't do it. What can you do? Bearian (talk) 23:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I could also invite him here: Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC but I'm hesitant. Bearian (talk) 23:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Bearian, the article was created by Gmccombs in 2016. I'd be reluctant to restore it at this point since it doesn't sound like the notability concerns have really been addressed, but let me know what you think would be helpful. It's normal for new editors to be confused about notability; I guess I'd suggest just focusing on the basics (we need trustworthy sources that talk about you in detail and aren't just interviews). He's certainly welcome to leave me a message here, though I prefer not to communicate off-wiki for this sort of thing. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Got it. Bearian (talk) 01:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Reactivate my Wikipedia Page

Hello... I'm trying to get in touch with you because I've been very confused about why my account was fully removed.

I also received communication from your colleague Brian E. Logan who referred me to reach out to you to get things resolved.

I'm very new at navigating Wikipedia and would really appreciate your support to expedite this process of getting my page back up. Can you help? Carlton Wilborn (talk) 16:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Carlton Wilborn. The article about you was deleted because of this discussion, where it was determined that you aren't notable enough to be eligible for a Wikipedia article. We determine notability by looking at how much coverage a person has received from trustworthy outside sources, like books, newspapers, or magazines. To restore the article, I'd need to see reliable sources that have written in detail about you specifically (interviews don't generally count). The full notability rules are unfortunately long and complicated, but there's a short summary here that you might find useful. Hopefully this helps—let me know if you have any questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:39, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Extraordinary Writ (talk),

I must admit this is very frustrating, confusing and poor timing. I'm literally, currently, shopping a scripted series, and my presence in this way as you can imagine can or cannot make an impact.

That said, I took my time and went through the history of my career (dance, acting, life coaching…) as well as, the list of ‘reliable sources’ from the Wikipedia page that Brian sent me.

Below are sources that were in the Green:

*The Huffington Post (several times)

• The New York Times (several times)
• The LA Times
• TV Guide
• Variety
• BBC
• People
• Broadway World
• The Hollywood Reporter
• Yahoo news
• The Guardian
• Entertainment Weekly

ARE THE 5 BELOW REALLY NOT RELIABLE?>

The Chicago Tribune (multiple times)

POZ Magazine

HIV Plus Magazine

Chicago Sun-times

Obviously I have lots of questions and so if you could really be an Angel and take a short phone call with me whenever you're available, to expedite the resolution? It would help me navigate what's going on, cuz it doesn't make sense even since I've been going back and forth with Brian?

There are three other dancers from our Madonna tour, and with all due respect, I've had a fuller career across the board and awards, so how are they allowed to have articles, and I can't?

I'm not trying to throw anybody else under the bus, but facts are facts.🤘🏾 I've had a fuller Overall Entertainment Career - dancer & actor (extensive guest starring roles, series regular, starred in a feature film and nominated for a GLADD Award).

I'm also an award-winning author and award-winning motivational speaker.

I was honored by Rahm Emanuel - former Mayor of Chicago, with the proclamation "February 5, 2017 to be CARLTON WILBORN DAY IN CHICAGO in recognition of his extraordinary life & enduring efforts to impact culture, inform community and inspire change."

I could go on...🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

Also, for 4 years, I was a host & and keynote speaker (alongside the CEO) for Panasonic at CES in Las Vegas. I was also sought out by Merck Pharmaceutical to serve as a life coach, and worked with one of their employees for several months.

And, yes, I have receipts to back up everything I'm saying!

If one looks at the real breath of my professional life, I have absolutely earned a substantial amount of work activity on my own right as Carlton Wilborn. *Is IMDB also not a reliable source? I have extensive credits there?

Please click this link to get a fuller understanding of my world. https://vimeo.com/505414252 (I hope this helps!)

And as I said to Brian, it is honestly not even my nature to want to go on-and-on about what I've done and speaking to people about it. That's not my nature. But in this situation I feel like I need to be extensive in making my case regarding my credibility in the world, that has already been acknowledged by credible sources. I Hope You Understand!

Again, a phone call or video chat would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to reach out via my phone. 213-422-7682

I look forward to your thoughts.

Thank you!

Carlton Carltonrising (talk) 08:12, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Carlton, you're right that those media outlets are reliable sources. The main issue is that most of them either are interviews (which don't generally count) or just mention you in passing without providing much in-depth coverage. Can you think of any non-interview articles that spend multiple paragraphs talking about you? That's the main thing we're looking for.

Wikipedia notability doesn't always line up with what people expect, since it's based more on press coverage than on people's accomplishments and achievements. I can tell you've lived a really meaningful and impactful life, but the rules don't really take that into consideration: the sources are what matter most. Ultimately we're all volunteers trying to do the best we can, but I know it can be a frustrating process.

For privacy reasons I prefer to keep my communication on the Wikipedia website. Most of us feel the same way, but if you want I can try to find someone who'd be comfortable talking by phone or video. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:48, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Extraordinary Writ (talk)...

I very much appreciate you trying to guide me!

Per your question regarding non-interview articles, please see the two links to articles below.

I truly hope these two articles will suffice!

I look forward to your thoughts.

Thank you!

Carlton

Murder's a Drag on The Mentalist

(paragraph 4)

https://www.tvguide.com/news/the-mentalist-murder-drag-1046540

Black Lives Matter Protesters Gather at Academy Headquarters (paragraph 5)

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/protesters-gather-academy-headquarters-selma-1234626506/ Carltonrising (talk) 00:27, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi... I just went back and looked at the article that was done in TV Guide with me for The Mentalist. I have the actual magazine, and I was trying to send you a screenshot of the article so you can see that the information on me does actually cover two paragraphs (P1. "The broken heal belongs to..." P2. "It was a tall order...") the way that it's laid out in the magazine.

Is there a way I can send you that screenshot,so you have the proof?

Thank you!

Carlton Carltonrising (talk) 03:57, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

User:Carltonrising: sorry for the delayed response. I've restored the article as a draft, which means you can see it but it's not visible on Google or other such sites. It's at this link. To get it out of the drafting area, you can add more sources and then press the blue "Submit the draft for review!" button; when you do this, it will be reviewed by an independent editor, who will decide whether it meets the notability rules. See this page for more information. The two sources you gave don't talk you in much detail, and I don't want to give you false hope that this process is going to get you anywhere, but ultimately it's up to you how you want to proceed. If you have other questions, you can get the quickest response by going to this page and clicking the big blue button. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you much! 😇🤞🏾🙏🏾 Carltonrising (talk) 03:29, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

2025

@Extraordinary Writ I want to move the article C. Seetaramulu to Cherupally Seetha Ramulu. Both are different articles on same subject. How to do that? XYZ 250706 (talk) 12:11, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Extraordinary Writ Or You can delete C. Seetaramulu. XYZ 250706 (talk) 12:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

XYZ 250706, I can't delete the older version because it's important to preserve the history. Instead, I've moved your article to Draft:Cherupally Seetha Ramulu. Now you'll be able to move C. Seetaramulu to the right title, and then you can copy over any new sources or information from the draft. When you're done with the draft, you can just leave it be, or I can delete it if you want. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:58, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for It Was on a Friday Morning

On 27 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article It Was on a Friday Morning, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a U.S. government official ordered that "It Was on a Friday Morning" be removed from a hymnal within 24 hours? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/It Was on a Friday Morning. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, It Was on a Friday Morning), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 21,970 views (915.4 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for this interesting article! Tenpop421 (talk) 03:56, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed it—it was a fun one to write! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Question from Ontheworks (10:49, 28 January 2025)

Hello Thanks for being my mentor --Ontheworks (talk) 10:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome, Ontheworks! If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Why was page deleted - Perth Corporate Rumble

The page was deleted in April 2024. The page was dedicated to an annual charity event in Perth. I believe it was not in breach of rules, there was no product promotion. Gregor Barnett (talk) 06:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Gregor Barnett. An event's eligibility for a Wikipedia article depends how much coverage it has received from reliable sources. In this case, there was a deletion discussion held here, and the participants felt that the sources weren't enough. If you're aware of other reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage of this event (particularly from outside the local press), feel free to list them here. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, i will obtain additional sources. Is it possible to view the deleted page, to cross-reference new sources, so there is no double ups? Gregor Barnett (talk) 00:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Gregor Barnett, the sources in the deleted article were: [1][2][3][4][5][6]. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Mihaithebrave (17:32, 5 February 2025)

hi. when is it appropriate to add the word links to things that when you click on them it takes you to a external website or another wiki article. do you do it everytime it is possible or only once per article? --Mihaithebrave (talk) 17:32, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello Mihaithebrave. The current guidance is "Link a term at most once per major section, at first occurrence." (For many years the rule was once per article, but this was recently loosened to make things easier for readers on smartphones.) This is just guidance and sometimes you may want to make exceptions, but you definitely don't need to link a term every single time it appears. You might also want to read this section for information about terms that generally shouldn't be linked at all. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:12, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Request for help

Hello, I made a small edit on Kemalism page yet the user I am linking below, who's talk page is full of complaints and temporary bans, is trying to start en edit war due to his ideology. Can you as a veteran create a deletion request for him? The user: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:Aybeg Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomkidd00 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Randomkidd00, the place to make a complaint about someone is WP:ANI, but I don't think that would be a good idea, especially since you are edit-warring too. You should try to reach some sort of agreement with Aybeg instead of just reverting him. I notice you've left a note on the talk page, so that's a good start. The word "liberal" did have several citations attached to it, so if you disagree with including it, you should try to find sources that describe Kemalism as not liberal. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:46, 7 February 2025 (UTC)