Borgenland

Freedom of Panorama and artworks

Hello. I just stumbled upon Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Archive 51#Artworks while compiling some notable discussions on FoP status of the Philippines here. My apology if I didn't comment there because I do not regularly add the TAMBAYAN talk page on my watchlist.

Regarding the artworks, in addition to User:Seav's insight, I'll further add. Copyright laws vary across the world, and somehow a nuisance for many uploaders. Here are the FoP statuses of countries that you mentioned in your query.

• Philippines: right now not OK. Though there are pending bills to seek modernization of the copyright law, much of support is for the passage of the bills that solely focus on giving the Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines the power to order blocking of websites or online platforms hosting pirated or infringing content. There is little to no support for three House Bills and one Senate Bill that contain FoP provision. More info: meta:Pilipinas Panorama Community/Freedom of Panorama/Progress.
• Hong Kong: per c:COM:FOP Hong Kong, museum indoors are OK. Only 3D arts like sculptures. Do not upload copyrighted 2D graphic arts like murals, graffiti, or street art.
• Australia: per c:COM FOP Australia, identical with Hongkongese FoP. Both HK and Australian FoP are inherited from the UK FoP anyway: UK FoP is OK for architecture, sculptures, and artisan works (like mosaics, textiles, jewelries, handicrafts etc.), but not OK for 2D flat arts.
• Taiwan: no. No commercial FoP for anything found in public except architecture. Only works like Taipei 101 can be reproduced by photographers to be licensed commercially: c:COM:FOP Taiwan. Copyright expires 50+1 years after artist's death.
• Thailand: no. Per c:COM:FOP Thailand, Thai FoP only covers outdoor landmarks like architecture, murals, and monuments. Anything indoors not covered. Copyright expires 50+1 years after artist's death.
• Japan: no, just an identical carbon-copy of Taiwan; or maybe the Japanese law influenced the Taiwanese law. See c:COM:FOP Japan. Copyright expires 70+1 years after artist's death.

And finally, hosting on enwiki is of no use. English Wikipedia only follows the U.S. copyright law, hence U.S. FoP is applied (see WP:Freedom of panorama). As the U.S. law does not grant FoP for any copyrighted public art, enwiki cannot accept good-quality images of sculptures, statues et cetera. Such images, even if made by Wikipedian photographers themselves, must strictly comply with WP:Non-free content policy. Merely hosting images of copyrighted Philippine, Taiwanese, Thai, and Japanese museum art is an infraction to that policy. No use to tag such images with fair use rationale description boxes; a bot would surely flag those as unused fair use files, to be queued for deletion if not used after a week.

Regards, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 15:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your insights! Will keep that in mind. A pity though regarding our laws. Borgenland (talk) 15:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

The Philippines is not the only country with relatively outdated copyright law (RA8293) not providing an exception that serves as a legal waiver for users to freely use, share, distribute, and/or publish their images of copyrighted architecture and monuments even for commercial purposes (the essence of FoP). More than 100 countries either do not provide or (worse) do not permit commercial FoP. See c:Commons:Freedom of panorama/table for the summary table as per Commons' perspective (commercial use should not be restricted). On top of that, seven countries – Denmark, Finland, Japan, Norway, Russia, Taiwan, and the United States – have nuanced FoP rules: architecture is free to be used even commercially, but public art and monuments still under sculptors' copyrights cannot be freely used. The country most visited by tourists, France, also does not allow commercial FoP.

It remains to be seen when will our country finally introduce Freedom of Panorama. Current progress in the congress show the bills that are solely focused on site-blocking and anti-piracy provisions (no provisions on FoP) are gaining momentum and greatest support from many stakeholders, from telecommunications companies to CitizenWatch Philippines. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland, speaking of FoP, have you tried talking to your "mga kakilala" with regards to the need for FoP and the pending bills to amend/reform R.A. 8293? The relative "lack of attention" to the three House Bills with FoP clause (HB 799, HB 2672, and HB 3838), as well as Senate Bill 2326 bothers me. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

By coincidence there's one Tambayan editor who I personally know and I think they're aware of that too. Otherwise I'm not an expert when it comes to lobbying. Borgenland (talk) 02:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland an update: this PNA article which states the DTI (trade dep't) leadership wants to have the copyright law (RA8293) amended. I hope this is one of the "last chances" to have FoP introduced here before the 19th Congress ends (in which pending bills "die" and will have to be "resurrected" or refiled again). I have added this recent news in the Pilipinas Panorama Community FoP progress page. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Btw Borgenland, who's that one Tambayan editor you personally know that may be aware of FoP lobbying? JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

It's Chlod. Not really that personal but we went to same school and same region. Borgenland (talk) 06:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Another possible WP:NEWSPAPER content?

Found a passage at Mediatrix of All Grace offending religious feelings case; again, Valenzuela400 contributed it. Seems to be leaning towards WP:NEWSPAPER? It is also mirrored at the main article Mary, Mediatrix of All Grace. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:02, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Will check later. Also flagged another edit of them in Alice Guo. Borgenland (talk) 05:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Just read the passage. Simply terrible. I’d erase it immediately if if my laptop were on. This really now needs to be raised in Tambayan, if not ANI. Borgenland (talk) 17:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland it should be raised to an admin to hide the infringing revisions. The copyvios are still accessible thru article history and someone can access that to copy without the original publisher's authorization. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

I know of one reliable admin. But I’ll try and salvage the material first. Borgenland (talk) 09:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@JWilz12345 there's this advice from aforementioned admin: [1]. Borgenland (talk) 13:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

If you don't mind, I would like to ask if you could file the report since you appear to have more experience handling this case and I am also dealing with a similar case on an overseas article. Borgenland (talk) 13:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@JWilz12345. There's a slight [2] correction on the advice. Borgenland (talk) 14:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland I'm afraid I can't file a report in the forseeable future. I'm focused on several things on Wikimedia Commons at the moment. Additionally, the method of filing a report here may be more complicated than similar actions on Commons (I'm much more used on Commons methods). Regards, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 23:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello again. How about the edit at Balabac Island#Balabac Military Runway? It incorporates an in-text link to Wikimedia Commons category which seems generally discouraged. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

fixed that up as badly-written. Borgenland (talk) 08:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

[Bini] WP:NEWSPAPER content

Hello, @Borgenland. This is regarding your recently opened topic about potential WP:NEWSPAPER content in the Bini (group) article. Can you please explain what kind of revisions can be made to address this issue? So that I can familiarize myself with the procedures and contribute when possible. Thanks! AstrooKai │ Talk 08:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

There is content that should look less like it was taken from a newspaper. While under normal circumstances this applies to copyvios, in the case of Bini it is kind of formatted similarly like a series of collated news reports with tons of redundant items. For example at one point Cherry on Top was described three times as their upcoming pre-debut single in one chapter alone. What I propose to do is to reduce the number of instances to make the article more readable. Borgenland (talk) 09:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try rephrasing the texts and see if it helps in aiding the issue. AstrooKai │ Talk 10:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Iranian presidential elections

Your reactions to the IP editor seem to be unduly harsh , WP:DONTBITE. They clearly do not know much about wikipedia (as evidenced by the fact they said "im american" when the IP tool easily shows their in Iran) and their edits seem to be done in good faith AlexBobCharles (talk) 14:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Apologies. When I first saw the IP's edits I suspected it was a sock of Baratiiman given their similar incoherent grasp of English. Then when said editor made false and racist aspersions as to my identity I totally lost faith. Finally the fact that they deliberately misspelled my name in the last edit reminds of an infamous sock of @/DirceuMag who was banned for POV pushing and WP:SOAPBOXING in previous election articles and who had a habit of deliberately misspelling my name and making long rambling edit summaries similar to the IP, in addition to falsely claiming questionable and partisan sources to be official. Borgenland (talk) 15:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Iranian presidential election

On 11 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Iranian presidential election, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 02:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Bini: Citation correction

Hello! I just want to inform you that I have corrected your recent edits on Bini (group) and Biniverse: The First Solo Concert, particularly the "diversify ref" edits. The citations were not formatted correctly, so I have converted them. You can see the difference here:

• Bini (group)
• Biniverse: The First Solo Concert

If this is a mistake, feel free to let me know. Thanks! AstrooKai │ Talk 07:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! For proper explanation I was trying to find independent sources aside from Bini’s home network. Borgenland (talk) 07:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Understandable, I'm glad to hear that. I was also planning on doing the same thing as I think that the articles are a bit more reliable on the publications by the home network, though there are some circumstances where only the home network covers certain topic. But thank you for that. AstrooKai │ Talk 07:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Just added extra authors to CDN as it was not immediately visible on the website itself. Borgenland (talk) 15:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Yes, I have seen them in my watchlist. Thanks for adding them! AstrooKai │ Talk 15:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This is for your tireless contributions for more than two years. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Eva Lasting

Hello. On the page Eva Lasting you said that you added the Update template to the cast list because there are names missing from season 2. My question to you is: if you know that names are missing from the list then why not add them yourself instead of using the Update template. I have not seen the season so I am unable to know if new cast members joined the series and the reference I added about the season 2 date doesn’t mention new cast members [3]. Telenovelafan215 (talk) 17:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Apologies but I haven’t had the time to read through the credits and edit heavily on the page due to prior commitments. And to prove in good faith that such new characters exist and at the risk of spoiling the plot there is Jose’s mother, former lover, and love child for example. Borgenland (talk) 17:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Rwandan general election

On 18 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Rwandan general election, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 2024 Rajkot gaming zone fire for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2024 Rajkot gaming zone fire, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.

The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Rajkot gaming zone fire until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:01, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Gofa landslides

On 27 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Gofa landslides, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 14:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Ankola (Karnataka) landslide

Hello Borgenland. Can you help to improve this article. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. In the meantime, the rescue section has to be fixed because the bulletin is making the article WP:NOTNEWS. Further, you need a consensus as to what to properly name this thing as the current title is too convoluted. I have also added the necessary projects for others to help. Borgenland (talk) 15:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Also recommend minimizing names per WP:MEMORIAL. Borgenland (talk) 15:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

You will also need to justify the inclusion of this Arjun to other users as personally I think it is WP:UNDUE and contributes to the WP:NEWSPAPER tone of the article. Borgenland (talk) 15:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Bini Jhoanna: Passion for journalism

Hello! I have a question about Bini Jhoanna's journalism history. Do you think it is more appropriate to place Jhoanna (singer)#Journalism under Jhoanna (singer)#Early life and education and rename it as "Passion for journalism"? This history about her passion for journalism seems to fall under the scope of the "Early life and education" section. AstrooKai │ Talk 17:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I shortened the title for the sake of WP:EUPHEMISM and WP:FANCRUFT. The problem with the current arrangement is that it disjoints the timeline and under her current status would not be the first thing many viewers want to read. Hence I’d suggest moving it below Bini. Borgenland (talk) 17:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Also suggest moving campus journalism to her early life and retain her professional phase in Journalism. Borgenland (talk) 17:45, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Overview section on discographies

Hello! I noticed that you splitted the lead section of Bini discography to the overview section. Can discographies have a section like that? Because I haven't saw that practice being made on discography articles like SB19's and other music groups. AstrooKai │ Talk 11:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Per prior experience, a lot of articles I’ve handled have some limit for paragraphs. I suspected that the intro was too heavy hence the split. Borgenland (talk) 11:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I see, never heard of that before. Anyway, thanks for the help! AstrooKai │ Talk 11:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Confused rn...

Hey!

I noticed you mentioned me in a talk pages and i’m so confused right now, would you mind to give me a context on what's happening there? Royiswariii (talk) 11:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

There's a concern over the notability of the Bini members' pages made in the past few days. While Jhoanna (singer) was specifically hinted at being nominated for deletion, I fear that other pages could also be nominated based on the fact that our articles share similar content and some of them are less notable in terms of things other than Bini. Hence, I am notifying you of the discussion for you to have the opportunity to make necessary fixes before a nomination and address related concerns. Borgenland (talk) 12:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I see, I really can’t do it now due to tight schedule in my school and i’m graduating too. I would ask too if you help me to do it? But i will check it if I have a time and reslove it. Royiswariii (talk) 12:26, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I made some WP:BOLD edits but the articles will still be subjected to review by the editor who raised the concern. Borgenland (talk) 12:28, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing event new article alert

End Bad Governance protests Please, help in improving and expanding new things. Please, don't alter any existing content as I am more familiar with it. Just help me and create "Timeline of events" section.

Welcome. Wår (talk) 10:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for August 12

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Kafr Kila.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 20:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Chauncey Green

Who is this jerk Chauncey Green, pretending to fight vandalism by vandalizing pages s/he has no stake or interest in ??? There seem to be quite a few people affected, me included. S/he just reverts edits without justification. We should report him/her. Peteruetz (talk) 10:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

It’s an LTA whom I’ve encountered since January. There’s already a sock of them reported in ANI. Borgenland (talk) 10:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for August 21

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited 2024 in Afghanistan, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Richard Bennett.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 19:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jhoanna (singer)

The article Jhoanna (singer) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:BANDMEMBER; all references reference her membership to Bini (group), clearly not demonstrating "individual notability".

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

For the record, will moving this to draft save data already collected? I'd just like to have some kind of insurance. Borgenland (talk) 05:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Notifying

Hi @Borgenland! I'm here to remind to you (if you don't mind) to respond on your created article to Jhoanna (singer).

If you don't know how you will respond, you can see what I explained in summary (update history) on Maloi (singer) and Colet (singer). (kinda messed up on typos on Colet and probably to Maloi too but still understand what I point)

Thank you! Royiswariii (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I would have also opposed but I had asked for a grace period from Howard before so as courtesy I went along with draftify. Borgenland (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree to you, I believe that all of BINI members deserve a separate article just like Jhoanna. Given their solo projects and activities outside of BINI, it makes sense of highlights their individual contributions and achievements. The P-pop are expanding and they need a individual articles.Royiswariii (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Notice

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Maria Clara at Ibarra. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Hotwiki (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

2nd warning

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Maria Clara at Ibarra, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Hotwiki (talk) 18:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Biafra Referendum

Kindly help on the timeline section of the article. I know you always help. Latest update Wår (talk) 08:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Possibility of improvement to article

Hi! From what I saw you can be interested in contributing to: Article: Alexa Ilacad. I am a beginning editor and don't speak Filipino, but I think you can help. Link: Article:Alexa_Ilacad

--Luhanopi (talk) 10:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Finished making the necessary fixes. See my edit summaries for issues in the article. Borgenland (talk) 13:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Luhanopi (talk) 15:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Voting for coordinators is now open!

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

PD-NWS Violations Update #2 (Key To Read Third Section)

I am providing members of the WikiProject of Weather along with users who frequently edit weather-related articles an new update (2nd update) to the discussions regarding the PD-NWS image copyright template.

On the Commons, an RFC discussion is taking place to figure out how to manage the template. No "formal" administrative-style rules have occurred, so nothing has changed. That is not a surprise as the RFC is still ongoing.

What is new?

• The entire Template:PD-NWS has been placed inside a "License Review" template, which is viewable via the link aforementioned.
• Most of the photographs which were uploaded to the Commons originally under the PD-NWS template (approximately 1,500) have been reviewed. Out of those ~1,500 images, only about 150 are requiring additional looks. Most images have been verified as free-to-use and switched to a respective, valid template.
• As of this moment, approximately 50 photos have been nominated for deletion (results pending).
• A handful of images have been deleted (either confirmed copyrighted or under the Commons precautionary principle.
• One image has been kept following a deletion request under the PD-NWS template.

How to deal with new photos?

Given all of this, you might be wondering how the heck you use weather photos while creating articles? Well, here is what you can do!

• If the photo was made by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (excluding NWS), You can upload it under the PD-NOAA template via {{PD-NOAA}}.
• If the photo was made by the National Weather Service (NOT Third Party), you can upload it using the new PD-NWS-employee template via {{PD-USGov-NWS-employee}}.
  • If the photo originates on the Damage Assessment Toolkit, you can upload it using the PD-DAT template via {{PD-DAT}}.
• If the photo is from a U.S. NEXRAD radar, you can upload it using the PD-NEXRAD template via via {{PD-NEXRAD}}.

What about third-party photos?

In the case of third-party photos...i.e. ones not taken by the National Weather Service themselves...there is an option which was discussed and confirmed to be valid from an English Wikipedia Administrator.

• KEY: Third party images of tornadoes & weather-related content can potentially be uploaded via Wikipedia's Non-Free Content Guidelines!
• Experiments/testing has been done already! In fact, I bet you couldn't tell the difference, but the tornado photograph used at the top of the 2011 Joplin tornado was already switched to a Non-Free File (NFF)! Check it out: File:Photograph of the 2011 Joplin tornado.jpeg! That photo's description can also be used as a template for future third-party tornado photographs uploaded to Wikipedia...with their respective information replaced.
• NFFs can be uploaded to multiple articles as well!
• The absolute key aspect of NFFs is that they relate to the article and are not decoration. For example with the Joplin tornado, the photograph: (1) shows the size of the tornado, (2) shows the "wall of darkness", which was described by witnesses, (3) shows a historic, non-repeatable event of the deadliest tornado in modern U.S. history. The exact reasoning does not have to be extremely specific as Wikipedia's NFF guidelines "is one of the most generous in the world" (words of Rlandmann (not pinged), the administrator reviewing all the PD-NWS template images).
• Tornado photographs will almost certainly qualify under the NFF guidelines, especially for tornadoes with standalone articles or standalone sections.
• NFFs cannot be used when a free-photograph is available, no matter the quality, unless the section is about that specific photograph. For example, the photograph used at the top of the 2013 Moore tornado article is confirmed to be free-to-use, therefore, no NFFs of that tornado can be uploaded on Wikipedia. However, the "Dead Man Walking" photograph could almost certainly be uploaded as an NFF to the 1997 Jarrell tornado article as that photograph is the topic of a section in the article.
• NFFs currently on Wikipedia can and should be placed in this category: Category:Non-free pictures of tornadoes.

Update Closing

Hopefully all of that information kept you informed on the Commons copyright discussion process and how you can still create the best articles possible! If you have a question about something mentioned above, reply back and I will do my best to answer it! Also, ping me in the process to ensure I see it! Have a good day! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Kamchatka Mil Mi-8 crash

On 6 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Kamchatka Mil Mi-8 crash, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 01:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

2024 Kamchatka Mil Mi-8 crash

Thank you, Borgenland! I've created an article and you have significantly contributed to it and now, its appearance is now on the main page. Thank you very much for contributing! Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 02:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Appreciate this highly. Looking forward to the next endeavors with you and other constructive users. Borgenland (talk) 02:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Mauricio Arriaza Chicas

Please review the template's documentation, this template {{recent death}} is not for newly created articles. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 16:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, I didn't quickly find out that it was new. Borgenland (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Not a problem, mostly page author's adding it to advertise their new article. :P - FlightTime (open channel) 16:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

2024 Georgian parliamentary election

Hi, there are various discussions going on the talk page of 2024 parliamentary election. Since you are active on the article it will be good to hear your input as well. Zlad! (talk) 23:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

National Cultural Treasures in the Philippines

Hello Borgenland. I just edited out the page on the List of National Cultural Treasures. I would like to know why? I updated the page based on the available resources found in the Annual reports of the National museum of the Philippines. I also added pictures which was not excessive in my opinion as I just followed the template set forth by the page. Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 08:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

One of your recent edits seems to have broken the table. So as a precaution, I removed it until it can be safely restored. Please do read also MOS:PHILIPPINES for your captions. Borgenland (talk) 08:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I see. Can I do something about it? What needs fixing? Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 09:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I think something went wrong in file size, while some of the captions need to be fixed grammatically. Borgenland (talk) 10:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I think I fixed the file size issue. Can you check it out if it is resolved? Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 10:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

It still looks quite off in mobile. Will check in desktop later. Borgenland (talk) 10:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I ran the edit again and I think your recent edits may run afoul of copyvio per [4]. Suggest you rewrite or revert your writing before you get flagged down by more hawkish editors. Will send you a standard warning later. Borgenland (talk) 12:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

You've tagged the article for WP:REVDEL, you're going to have to identify in which revision the copyvio first appeared before anyone can deal with it. Nthep (talk) 20:50, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't quite understand which part I added merits a copyright violation. I only added information from a government report and pictures already uploaded in wikimedia commons. Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 03:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Did you copy ad verbatim from the source? Borgenland (talk) 04:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Not really, I just put the declared names in the page. Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 13:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Anyway see the prevailing consensus in Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines regarding this matter for now. Borgenland (talk) 15:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Philippines and Fraternities

Hello, my handle is User:Naraht and I'm a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. I'm an alumnus of Alpha Phi Omega in the US and my experience with Alpha Phi Omega in the Philippines has made me the project expert on Fraternities and Sororities in the Philippines. *shudder*. I find the degree of chaos in the Fraternity and Sorority system makes referencing them somewhat difficult. Do you have any advice on references? I think most of what are good references are GMA Network, Philippine Star, Philippine Daily Inquirer, Philstar, the Daily Tribune and ABS-CBN.

Additionally, trying to count chapters can be a nightmare for some of the general fraternities (Alpha Kappa Rho & Tau Gamma Phi/Sigma), any suggestions? (I've got a decent handle on Alpha Phi Omega mostly because I'm on some facebook groups whose information leads me to decent refs)Naraht (talk) 18:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Your choice of references are right. They are 2 of the country’s biggest media network’s and some of the leading newspapers of record. You might also want to see Rappler, one of the most critical and analytic outlets founded by a Nobel laureate. Az for your chapters I’m also not sure since I’m strictly here for my country and crime projexts. Borgenland (talk) 01:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

thanks, forgot about Rappler, I've used them on some articles as well, including, I think the hazing article. Still surprised on how many hazing deaths for Tau Gamma Phi recently. Naraht (talk) 21:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

It's a running gag. A lot of faux groups and parody items like to copy off the Tau Gamma name. Although lately it's been Epsilon which has been receiving bad press. Borgenland (talk) 01:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

User:Naraht I'm sorry I meant Upsilon Sigma Phi. It's not much as hazing but for things better left unsaid. See [5] and [6]. Borgenland (talk) 09:17, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon? And I wonder what groups were being spoofed by Batch '81. I presume Alpha Kappa Rho (Skeptron) and Alpha Phi Omega? Note Alpha Phi Omega Philippines is *fully* recognized by Alpha Phi Omega USA. Now nobody in APO-USA national leadership wants the Oblation run in the US, and even within the bounds of RA8049 are things that would make them unhappy, but fully recognized.

WP:EASTEREGG

Regarding your link to WP:EASTEREGG in edit summaries such as this and this, those pipes don't really fall under WP:EASTEREGG because the target is pretty clear from the text.
A better edit summary would be "no need to pipe", or something of that nature. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I thought it was the same. Thanks tho for the tip. Borgenland (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for September 17

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited 2024 Pasaquina Bell UH-1 crash, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Choluteca.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 19:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Voting for WikiProject Military history coordinators is now open!

Voting for WikiProject Military history coordinators is now open! A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. Register your vote here by 23:59 UTC on 29 September! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 2024 Badakhshan Dassault Falcon 10 crash for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2024 Badakhshan Dassault Falcon 10 crash, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.

The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Badakhshan Dassault Falcon 10 crash until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Central European floods

On 20 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Central European floods, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 04:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)

Can you help to remove WP:RECENTISM violation and summarise August 2024 and September 2024 sections of Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present). You can remove any unnecessary content added by me. Pachu Kannan (talk) 09:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply, I am stingy on reverts lately in the article due to 1RR but the previous advice on Israel-Hamas War also applies here. Also suggest you find definite news articles rather than liveblogs to minimize the risks of excessive weight and having to resort to long-winded quotes. Borgenland (talk) 08:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Bamako attacks

On 24 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Bamako attacks, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede66 08:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for September 24

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Catriona Gray, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Bulgar.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 19:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Philippine Wikimedia Kapihan Network

Hello. Just a question. Are you a member of the FB group of WP:TAMBAYAN, known as "Philippine Wikimedia Kapihan Network"? If not yet, you may want to join the group (though still it's in your discretion if you prefer to join or not). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Not yet but I will think over it. Borgenland (talk) 09:42, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Request

Hello.

In the 2024 Hezbollah headquarters strike article, can you actually display the specific bomb Mark 84 bomb with its name, which has been obscured in the Wikilink under the label "2,000-pound bombs", when the other bunker buster bombs like BLU-109 bomb are displayed with their names in the article?

(Also, if units have to be displayed, both the metric and imperial units must be displayed in Wikipedia articles, not one or the other. 95% of the world population use only the metric system.)

Thank you. Oirattas (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I am more of a political rather than a technical editor though. Borgenland (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. It is not at all a difficult technical or a controversial political issue, I requested. Only the simple removal of the general label "2,000-pound bombs" covering the specific Wikilink Mark 84 bomb. Different types of bunker buster bombs can have that same weight. Because the article is protected, I cannot do it. Oirattas (talk) 14:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

List of terrorist incidents involving railway systems

Hi, I would like to clarify that the 2019 Yuen Long Attack in Hong Kong was not a terrorist incident; rather, it was a riot stemming from the 2019 Hong Kong Extradition Bill. The mobs involved in the attack were convicted of rioting but not of any terrorism-related offences. Below are some news articles for your reference:

https://hongkongfp.com/2024/04/05/hong-kong-accountant-found-guilty-of-rioting-after-yuen-long-mob-attack-in-2019/

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/192740/Man-arrested-three-years-after-Yuen-Long-mob-attack,-to-appear-in-court

In addition, the HKSAR Government has legislation regarding terrorism, which is specified in Cap.575 United Nations (Anti-Terrorism Measures) Ordinance. Below is the content of the ordinance:

https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap575

As such, the attack was not a terrorist incident and it should not be included on the list. HelenRForeman (talk) 01:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

The attack has been included in the article for as long as I can remember and I reiterate that only a consensus of the editors in the list’s talk page can remove the entry. Not a decision of the HK government. Borgenland (talk) 01:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Older typhoon seasons

As a result of a message on my talk page. Me and Hurricanehink are trying to get people to help make older typhoon season articles. As you are a major contributor in recent typhoon articles, and other major typhoon articles, I think you might be interested in tackling this. Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I have sources on some notable typhoons from 1946 to 1998. Will check the relevant years. 05:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC) Borgenland (talk) 05:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Shigeru Ishiba

On 3 October 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Shigeru Ishiba, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)