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Ethics Workshop Participation Request

Hi! We're conducting a series of participatory workshops with Wikipedia editors, administrators, researchers, and Wikimedia employees to discuss, and hopefully improve, Wikipedia's structures for online research (see meta research page). In an effort to get the right people in the room to discuss these topics, I'm reaching out here to see if you are interested in participating as an active administrator. We'd work with you to ensure this workshop can fit into your schedule, but are targeting end of April/early May. I'm happy to discuss any of these topics further here or on our talk page. Zentavious (talk) 17:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Bilby,

I was deleting a broken redirect to Gondwana Ecotour an article you deleted on grounds of CSD G5. This is confusing to me because the page creator is not a block-evading sockpuppet and the article wasn't tagged for speedy deletion. Can you tell me who the sockmaster is for this editor? Because they aren't blocked on any grounds. Thank you for any information you can provide to clear this up. Liz Read! Talk! 02:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Liz! The author is a sock of User:Eyoab based on off-wiki evidence. I am passing that on to paid-en, but they tend to take a while to respond, and as there is no doubt of the connection I deleted it as part of a broader cleanup of multiple accounts in the sockfarm. - Bilby (talk) 03:32, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 March 2024

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

 

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  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

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  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

The Signpost: 25 April 2024

Help in Positive Review

@Bilby Can You help me with Positive Reivew for Draft:Vaibhav Palhade ? dont know why it is not getting accepted. cause the sources i added are from reputed indian media

Content Meets Notability Guidelines The draft article on Vaibhav Palhade appears to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for individuals. The article provides detailed information on Palhade's professional achievements, awards, and contributions, which demonstrate that he is a notable figure worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia.The article cites reliable sources, such as news articles and professional profiles, to support the claims made about Palhade's background and accomplishments. This suggests the content is well-researched and verifiable.Therefore, the maintenance template indicating the subject may not meet notability guidelines can be removed, as the article content appears to justify the inclusion of Vaibhav Palhade on Wikipedia.I hope this provides a valid reason for removing the maintenance template. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Steelbird1967 (talk) 13:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

This Month in Education: March 2024

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

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  Nihonjoe
 

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  Joe Roe

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  • Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

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This Month in Education: April 2024

The Signpost: 16 May 2024

Requesting a copy of the draft for Bob Santos (trainer)

Hi, good day! Is it possible to get a copy of Bob Santos (trainer)'s deleted article for future resubmission? Thank you. Fhbenigs (talk) 15:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, but because it was created by a blocked editor who was evading their block to create it, it is not possible to recover the old article. If there is to be one it will need to be cnewly created. I also suggest that you look into WP:PAID and WP:COI if you are being paid to create the article on someone's behalf. - 03:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC) Bilby (talk) 03:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for your quick response. I will then create a new article for Bob and definitely read the links you have included. So, if I create the article from scratch, is there a chance that the page will get accepted? Thank you. Fhbenigs (talk) 04:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
I really cannot comment about whether or not a new article would be kept, as my only consideration before was that it was created by a blocked editor. To be clear, though, if you are being paid to create the article, you need to abide by the terms of WP:PAID, which will require you to disclose that you are being paid to write the article and who you are working for. - Bilby (talk) 02:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

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The Signpost: 8 June 2024

This Month in Education: May 2024

Campbell Brown (journalist)

Not sure if you saw my note on the talk page but I'm in the midst of trying to improve the article. Not sure if you remember, but you placed a tag on the article for undisclosed payments. Do you recall which sections on the current article are compromised? I just want to know if there any specific things that have to be done in order to improve it to a minimum standard. I've already added a bunch of references that were missing. Thank you. MaskedSinger (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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This Month in Education: June 2024

Conflict of interest VRT appointments, July 2024

The Arbitration Committee is pleased to appoint the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team following private and public consultation:

The VRT administrators are asked to grant access to the aforementioned users pending signatures to the required confidentiality agreements.

On behalf of the Committee, Sdrqaz (talk) 22:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Conflict of interest VRT appointments, July 2024

The Signpost: 22 July 2024

Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

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  Izno
 

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  Barkeep49

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  • Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
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About WP:COIVRT

Smallbones from WP:Signpost here to ask you a probing question or 3 about COIVERT, for publication (Sunday?) probably in a short blurb in the News and notes article. Some questions (answer here, on my talk or via email, as you like) I may just select one sentence, a couple of pithy phrases, or what ever I think is most interesting:

  1. What the heck is COIVERT and why did it just come into existence?
  2. What do you expect to do there?
  3. How can Signpost readers help there, or maybe at WP:COIN instead?
  4. Anything else you want to say?

As always,

Smallbones(smalltalk) 16:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Smallbones! If it is ok I'll write a reply in the morning. I'm suffering from a mild flu, and have this urge to curl up in bed and hope to be well by tomorrow. :) But I will definitly write something first thing in the morning. - Bilby (talk) 13:13, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi! Sorry for taking so long. I think I may have run into a bout of covid after all. On the plus side, I have the option to hide at home and not share, so it worked out ok. (Well, it did, but now my eldest is complaining that I made her ill).
As to your questions. I suspect you know much of this better than me, but to give my understanding:
For many years private evidence regarding conflicts of interest have been requried to be sent to functionaries. This was clarified in 2022 with Special Circumstances Blocks by the Arbitration Committee when they made it clear that administrators should not block editors based on off-wiki evidence. There was an RFC not long after that which sought to carve some exceptions but it failed to get sufficient support. As a result, if anyone - admin or otherwise - had evidence that someone was editing with a COI and it risked outing (which is generally the case) it needs to be sent to functionaries to handle it. The problem as I see it is that these cases are hard to work though - like CCIs, they take a lot of effort to investigate and need to be carefully considered. This created a backlog at the paid-en queue, and I know from my own experience that even what I thought were clear-cut cases could take a very long time to be processed. (Well, that, or I wasn't as good at expressing the evidence as I thought I was).
Anyway, when you have a bottleneck, as was the case with COI reporting, you need some solution that allows you to process the reports quicker. One solution is to have more people process the reports, but given that it was limited to functionaries, and functionaries are limited to ArbCom members (past and present), checkusers and oversighters, that would mean increasing the size of those groups, which feels a bit like overkill if we don't actually need more oversighters, checkusers or ex-ArbCom members. Thus after the Conflict of interest management case, ArbCom solved the problem by creating a new queue and creating a new type of "functionary" in administrators who sign all of the privacy agreements but do not gain CU/Oversight/ArbCom status. As a result: WP:COIVRT!
Mostly what we do is look at evidence sent by editors of possible COI and paid editing, evaluate it, and try to work out how best to proceed. That might mean doing nothing, but it also might mean a block. From what I have seen so far the reports are always carefully considered by editors before they send them and they provide a good account of their evidence. The difficult part is following it up, working out if it is actionable, and being very certain that an action is justified. I can only speak for myself, but as blocks made via private evidence are hard to appeal (only a functionary can view the evidence) you want to be very certain of your decision. That said, we've always been clear that we must respect editor's privacy, so any case which involves private evidence should be sent to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org rather than handled on-wiki. I would still like to see anything based on public actions and information handled here, and thus WP:COIN should be the first choice if it is possible, so we should continue to rely on WP:COIN - it is just that we should also be very aware that we have another path that maintains the privacy of all involved. - Bilby (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)