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Hi. I'd be interested to know why you deleted one of the obituary references without comment? Did you know Paddy personally? Cheers Bjenks (talk) 03:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- I thought it was unnecessary having his obituary in the further reading section when it was referenced throughout the article and was already listed under the references. But I thought this was a pretty minor criticism, so I undid my action; his obituary is now back under "further reading". Wcp07 (talk) 04:02, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Christie peer review
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- Lead:I think you misunderstood my review comment concerning the lead; the significant point was: "The lead should summarise the whole article." I wasn't suggesting there should be additional details of the crimes, rather that the scope of the lead be extended to cover such things as Christie's early life and criminal record. The details (and I would suggest the citations) properly belong in the body of the article. Thus I would suggest a lead looking something like this:-
John Reginald Halliday Christie (8 April 1899 – 15 July 1953), born in Halifax, West Yorkshire, was an English serial killer active in the 1940s and 1950s. He murdered at least six women, and was arrested, tried and hanged for the murder of his wife Ethel Christie in 1953, after the bodies of several of his victims were found at his home, 10 Rillington Place, West London, by a new tenant.
Christie had served in World War I, and suffered a gas attack in 1918. After his return to civilian life he took to crime, and was convicted and imprisoned several times for offences including theft and assault. He moved to London in 1938, and on the outbreak of war in 1939 was accepted for service as a Special Constable without revealing his criminal record. He committed his murders between 1943 and 1953, his general method being strangulation after his victims had been rendered unconscious by gas.
Substantial controversy exists as to whether Christie was responsible for the murders of two additional victims, Beryl Evans and her daughter Geraldine. They, along with Beryl's husband Timothy, were tenants at 10 Rillington Place during 1948–49. Timothy Evans was charged with both murders, was found guilty of the murder of his daughter, and was hanged in 1950. Christie gave evidence in the trial and helped secure Evans's conviction. When Christie's own crimes were uncovered three years later, serious doubts were raised over the safety of Evans's conviction, many people believing that Christie had been responsible for their deaths.
In an official inquiry conducted in 1965–66, Mr Justice Brabin stated that it was "more probable than not" that Evans killed his wife and that he did not kill his daughter Geraldine. This finding, challenged in subsequent legal processes, nevertheless enabled the then Home Secretary to grant Evans a posthumous pardon because it was for the murder of his daughter that Evans had been convicted in 1950. The question of Christie's involvement Evans murders, and the possible miscarriage of justice, contributed to the suspension of capital punishment for murder in the United Kingdom in 1965.
- I haven't had time to look over the whole article again, although it does appear that you have significantly increased the inline citations.
Thanks for the message on my talk page. Would be happy to copy edit this one for you. Give me a couple of hours, will let you know here and on the talk page when I have finished. – ukexpat (talk) 14:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Done. No major changes, just a few wording changes for clarity, flow and correct usage and a couple of DAB fixes. – ukexpat (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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editHi there. With regard to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cock Lane ghost/archive1, I'm not sure if you're supporting or not. If you are, would you mind bolding your support comment? If not, don't worry about it. Thanks! Parrot of Doom 13:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- No problem - I should have been clearer in my comments. I'll happily support your article. Cheers. Wcp07 (talk) 23:58, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks. Looking to get this one at TFA on 1 April, hopefully. Parrot of Doom 00:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
10 Rillington Place - rear garden picture
editThis photograph (taken from the www.10-rillington-place.co.uk Website) is clearly credited on that site as being licensed from Getty Images and so cannot be used on the basis that its copyright owner is unknown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.204.12 (talk) 22:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for that; I have amended the copyright attribution on the image data to reflect that it comes from Getty Images. Per WP:FAIRUSE, copyrighted images can be used on wikipedia when they are historically significant and when no free alternatives are available. Wcp07 (talk) 08:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
How do you feel about having another stab at FAC with this? Malleus Fatuorum 17:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've replied on the talk page. Wcp07 (talk) 11:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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editThe format was debated at length at the Australian Wikipedian noticeboard a few year back from we started the big rollout of heritage articles. All the articles have a similar format and although some have more of less information than others. Kerry (talk) 08:54, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't dispute that their heritage eligibility should be mentioned, just that it shouldn't be at this level of detail. In all four of the station articles I tagged, info on their design features and how they qualify for state heritage listing is taking up to over half the article length. Given this is not the main focus of the article (their history, role in Sydney's current public transport networks and architectural context are just as important), some degree of copyediting seems necessary. Wcp07 (talk) 11:34, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Railway station articles are not just for gunzels. Architectural context and historical significance are also important. The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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