Got an idea about the Epic Metal controversy
editHi, Deiz! Just a question: do you remember the "Epic Metal" article i wrote (and was deleted) quite a while ago? If I post it inside the "Power Metal" entry, as a subchapter, would it be ok or would it be deleted? Waiting your answer, thanks!
- Legend
- It's entirely your call. The problem was that "epic metal" is not a well defined term, so if you're going to attempt to show it pertains to a particular genre or group of bands, you should be able to back up your edits with reliable external sources. I absolutely encourage you to do this, but only if you accept your edits might be changed, removed or disagreed with. If you introduce a subsection I would recommend writing the material from scratch using what you had before as a reference, rather than cutting and pasting. Deizio talk 14:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Destroying America Source
editI can source my info. on the page, but It all comes from it's Official IMDb page. I would be glad to put the pages link on External links, once I make the page. Do I have permission? I could also apply the article to all the skaters that are in the movie. ClayteX 13:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Kerry Getz
editWhy did you take out the part about the Durham Courthouse?
Not even the 'Getz'd' part? I mean, what if someone says the word in a forum, I can't then say something about the word?
- Exactly. Information on Wikipedia must be sourced and taken from reliable sources. Forums don't qualify. Deizio talk 07:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, well I made an account. I want to include skate video he has been in in a box like the CKY one in his article, is there a place where I can find out how to do that? Like a tutorial? [[1]] I want to include those videos.IhateKerryGetz 07:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- Firstly, careful with the name. As an active contributor at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Usernames, usernames containing the names of real people in a way that can be interpreted as negative are often disallowed and blocked. You can head off this possibility by choosing a new, less controversial name, which I strongly recommend. So at this point let me know if you wish to choose a new name and what that name is, or if you want your existing name to go through the comment procedure. After that I'll send you a welcome message full of helpful links. There is also a CKY / skateboarding wikiproject which I'm involved with, and you can ask questions there. Deizio talk 08:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Alright, how do I change my name? I guess I'll go with IhateKG or something? Is that okay? IhateKerryGetz 08:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have to advise not including a reference to Kerry or any person at all. If you edit the Kerry Getz article you would still have a conflict, and likely a block. This dialog would also be visible to anyone interested in commenting on your name, hence its meaning would be clear. It is possible to apply for a name change, but its far simpler to open a new account, especially as the account is new and has no significant history. Have a read of Wikipedia:Username and get back to me with any new ideas. Deizio talk 08:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I made this one. Now, on with the video idea....Doctor Lyles Carlton III 08:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Kupugani
editWhat is your justification for deleting the two short articles entitled Semiotic Cohesion and Kupugani? Do you not feel that they were historically relevant? Kupugani was quite a large charity organistaion in its time and I see no reason why Semiotic Cohesion is not out of place with the sort of articles that wikipedia promotes.
You decide
editHere are some links where Shriekfest is covered extensively (or in one case, the founder is part of a round table interview about horror festivals). Moviebytes.com lists its significance among film festivals as 4 out of 5.
- http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/041025a.php
- http://www.hollywoodlitsales.com/cf/contest/contestdetail.cfm?id=238
- http://www.moviemaker.com/hop/editorial.php?id=338
- http://www.pretty-scary.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Calendar&file=index&type=view&eid=5
- http://www.moviebytes.com/ContestDetail.cfm?contestnumber=631
- http://newsblaze.com/story/20060901221037howa.nb/topstory.htm
There are probably more, but I don't have the time to go through 47 pages of google results. These came from the first ten pages of results. Do what you will.
Ok, I got it.
editSorry for the problems I'm creating, they are obviously created by small experience. I hope I'll get more used to Wikipedia's standards in the future, you are free to edit/delete any of my articles or images if you think they aren't suitable for wikipedia.
Epic metal
editHi Deiz! Just a question: why can't the Epic metal page be modified? It redirects to Power metal while it is, in fact, something completely different from a musical aspect. Did you read the article I've written? Is there any chance for the Epic metal page to get unprotected and modified? Thanks! :-)
Highlanders
editYou want a source for the fact that while on TV they can be seen scratching themselves and they often hit each other? That's a joke right?«»bd(talk stalk) 02:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
An appeal for help
editHi Deiz, this is about a case currently unfolding in the biography of Meher Baba. An Australian follower seemingly appaled from the mention of Peter Townsend started by deleting it. It was reverted, and in spite of continious personal attacks, things took the course of a straw poll for some agreement. Then there appeared 3 identities that seem to be the same user. Together with an editor who has contributed long term to the article, we have reported the case in Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Liam7 on the 4th of December. Yet there is a backlist to clear in investigations and things are going slow (no implied blame on busy admins). Personal attacks continue, somewhat milder now, and a whole comedy of a situation is developing on the talk page. In the meanwhile, we (me and user Cott12) are trying to work on the article as per the recent peer review (in my user namespace/sandbox) but we don't dare any edits on the main article until someone does something about the new editor. By the way the editor has removed the tags of sock puppet suspicion from his user page and all the suspected puppets. We removed the Townsend section in the hope this would calm things down, but this user seems to be in for a personal show. The Meher Baba followers are not in any way extreme people and their faith is one of the least biased and most philosophically inspired that I have come across (I could liken them to the Bahai faith people). The article history had no big arguments previously, apart from a mild discussion on the whether Baba's origins were Persian or Irani. This is a unique case. I'm not sure if it can be called "disruptive", but it is certainly draining at least 3 previous editors' energy and any further progress is not possible. Should we also apply for User Check? Is there anything that can be done to restore some peaceful atmosphere so we can start working on the peer review? Hoverfish 14:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- No frustration really, it's just like watching a new episode of Fawlty Towers but in the wrong place. OK, fair, thanks and happy editing. Hoverfish 14:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Block
editHi, I've lengthened the block on Couilles_is_back (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) to indefinite as a vandalism-only account. —Angr 17:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Bookabible
editGreetings. You must try to understand the hardship and strife of having a lodger. Spaingy 23:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Rick Kosick
editThe article was written by Jeff Tremaine and Dave Carnie, people who have worked closely with Kosick before. I have heard some of te other stories before (such as Tremaine buying his buddy breakfast every mornin at 7-11) so I am inclined to believe it. The story was also published in Skateboarder. - Ocatecir 02:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Point taken. I just read that Kosick grew up in Southern California, anyway. While it is still possible that he was born in the house, no other links can be found via google to support it and its best left out. Ocatecir 02:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Stoner rock
editWhat are your thoughts on the 18 speed tranny spamming? Think it's worth nominating the URL for the pan-wiki spam blacklist? Deizio talk 23:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
To chill or not to chill
editBTW, you probably didn't notice but I'd immortalized WP:CHILL on my userbox-totem. ;) David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 04:40, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
DGAF | This user doesn't give a fuck and regards angry mastodons with amiable apathy. |
RAW is Owen
editAs with another user, this article should be deleted, it is just a normal RAW, except it has just been dedicated to someone. I have no bias at all against Owen Hart - infact I think he could of been WWE Champion. Reply please. 86.20.53.195 18:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Before we end up arguing, I was trying to find the Eddie Guerrero Tribute Show from last November on Wikipedia. It was on their in September. Now it's deleted. One rule doesn't apply for one tribute show compared to another tribute show. Also Tribute To The Troops has been nominated for deletion. 86.20.53.195 18:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone's nominated Raw Owen for deletion. Just thought you wanted to know. 86.20.53.195 19:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I put a delete nomination on RAW is Owen. You delete it. Why? Davnel03 19:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Arbcom
editHey, you vote how you want. I'm not opposed to receiving moral support, though--it's not like I was trying to win when I ran for Arbcom, it was kind of as a protest. (And then, "frustratingly" enough, there were a bunch of great, Arbcom-worthy editors that decided to run and make me look silly. Oh well. ) Thanks anyway! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 22:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Just an observation
editI would like to make contributions. However I am sure you would be concerned that after your first edit you were falsely being accused of being a sockpuppet and having your talk page defaced with an accusation, and then told that you were not allowed to edit a particular page until you give a suitable explanation.
My RFA
edit- | Hello Deiz! I want to thank you for taking time to comment in my recent request for adminship. Though it didn't succeed, I value everyone's opinion, and hope to use the descriptions of the neutral and oppose votes to improve. TeckWizTalkContribs@ 22:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC) |
Red Ribbon
editDeiz
I do not believe that I have ever visited the Loddon Campaspe site. (In fact they have probably lifted it from somewhere else - any one of a number of community / history sites, I'd suggest.
The pool of accessible information on the Red Ribbon Rebellion is limited, compared with say, the Eureka Stockade. In effect most of it is statement of the known historical facts, rather than commentary.
Interesting that some wiki police would sooner accuse me of copyright abuse and have nothing about this significant historic movement on wikipedia.
Also apologies if my referencing of texts hasn't worked. I have attempted to use the referencing tools as per the bottom of the page.
Barry221056 12:07, 14 December 2006
About Template:Jackass
editAll except perhaps one scene... the guitar solo by Bam off Jess' head was not seen in the CKY videos... There may be more... --WIKISCRIPPS 07 THU DEC 14 2006 7:16 PM EST
- Their song "Joker & the Thief" was featured as the theme song For J:N2... --WIKISCRIPPS 07 THU DEC 14 2006 7:25 PM EST
Don Vito edit
editHi. I didn't know how to come across with the line about his sense of humour and wit, but thought it might be an acceptable addition to the article. It's up to you whether to remove it or not. I don't mind. Hadi 23:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
5K edits
editFirst, thanks for the fireworks. I appreciate them. Second, thanks for the abbreviation "K222". I've never seen that one before. Have a wonderful day! -- Kicking222 05:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Which discussion?
editPer your comment about not deleting votes: I started to "unstrikeout" the stricken out vote of another editor, because I thought that it was inappropriate for someone to strike out someone elses words, but thought that I did not do so, after I saw that the redacted editor had agreed with the strikeout. So which deletion debate do you refer to? There are so many! If you refer to my edits to my own comments, I feel it is appropriate to edit a comment an make a clarification without markup symbols if no one has replied to it, so it remains as my final thoughts on the subject at that time.I would use strikeout to show a change of heart if someone has convinced me my 'Keep' should be changed to a 'Delete or vice versa, or that my comments were ill-founded, since it allows a later reader to follow the time course of the debate. Edison 18:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I posted something at 17:45, and looked into it further, and at 18:04 there had neen no further posts in reply, so at 18:04 I rephrased it, then at 18:08 you restored my earlier comment and answered it. Since my previous comment had been removed from the Deletion debate, you could just have replied to my talk page. Sorry about the confusion, an agreed, I should have clarified in the edit summary.. I would not have changed my comment if you had already replied to it, since that would have made your reply look like a nonsequitor. On the larger question, going beyond this particular singing group to the larger question of notability, I have seen several cases where an article was deleted for lack of sources where the subject received, say, a paragraph in a feature story in the New York Times, and the editors opposed to the article here deleted it calling the source a "passing reference." I do not feel that the "primary subject" criterion makes a lot of sense, since the same "note" might be taken of a notable subject by a paragraph of 50 words in a 1000 word article or by the same paragraph of 50 words in a 100 word article where the entity is the "primary subject." In either case, it should help to establish notability. In the Fortune article, the entrepreneur thought the group was impressive or he would not have used them to impress guests. In the NY Times article, the university thought they were impressive, so they used them to impress high school seniors. In neither case would they have trotted out a lousy non-notable squad of singers. In cultural reviews, the music editor is likely to talk about several events, and I look for favorable mention in the paragraph devoted to the particular group. I have also raised this question on the discussion page for the guideline on notability. Edison 18:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Stoner rock spam
edit[2] :) —Wknight94 (talk) 12:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what the best course is. It's generally frowned on to semi-protect for a long period of time and I'm especially hesitant over a single spam link being added once or twice a day (which you have to admit isn't that big of a deal). It's too bad you can't protect a single article against a range of IPs. Range protection. (Something to propose to the developers maybe, eh?) I tried applying to one of the VOA bots but it didn't seem to have any effect. Maybe WP:ABUSE? —Wknight94 (talk) 03:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Brandon's Cotton
editThe info. that I have submited to the Brandon DiCamillo page is 100% true it was an update in 2001 on Haggard: The Movie's IMDb page. I dont know why you could not find this. Unless they remove updates within a certain time span. But do not completly delete it yet. I will find a source somewhre. ok thanks Deiz.
LOL...
editBlock of User:Danny Invincible
edit(cross posted from User talk:Yamla where I erroneously first put it, events look to have moved on a bit now, so this is more for information than a request) This block seems like an overly strict interpretation of WP:USERNAME to me. Danny Invincibile is not particularly well known, his unusual name is probably the only reason a lot of people have heard of him. Would a simple note atop the userpage such as the one on User:John Reid not suffice? Oldelpaso 19:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'll assume good faith that your intentions are honorable, but asking a 15-year-old to send you his ID or any kind of personal information is highly inappropriate. BigDT 17:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- I have no quarrel with you ... I apologize for my poor choice of wording ... I just wanted to make it 100% clear that I wasn't accusing you of anything - I just feel that it's bad for Wikipedia to ask such things. You indicated on his talk page, the RFC, and my talk page that you understand the concern so as far as I am concerned, there's no issue. ;) BigDT 18:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
My RfA
editThank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed and was closed early at 2/10/9. I am not discouraged, however, and will use the experience to improve my skills until a later date when I may succeed. Yuser31415 20:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Your article, David Urquhart (bishop), was selected for DYK!
editThanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 14:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Masts & Towers
editPlease refer to my reply to you on my talk page Ohconfucius 15:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Not Kuntan
editThis might be deleted soon. Daakshayani 10:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
RFA Notice, bundled nomination
editAn article that you have been involved in editing, Singil Station, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singil Station. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --MECU≈talk 21:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Debate on Username?
editYou said you'd closed the debate on my username. There was one? Where? Was I allowed to participate? Shouldn't I have been notified? I'm so confused... 'bitchen' ric 21:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
User:WpzxTn4eHYda0
editLol duly noted - thanks for the heads up. Cheers Lethaniol 16:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Textbot
editCame across this User:Textbot I think it falls short of WP:U but thought I would check with you first. P.S. This user if also seeking adoption - oh boy see Category:Wikipedians seeking to be adopted in Adopt-a-user. Cheers Lethaniol 22:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
US Govt images
editare public domain. Rugbyball 23:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
User:JohnJohnJohnJohn
editI noticed your recent sighting of the edits performed by JohnJohnJohnJohn there are some bizarre edits to say the very least. It appears that the user has two sockpuppets Johnowenlangham and Orchardbank, he's even started to have conversations between them. Fraslet 12:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
User: HTE
editHi there. Thanks for your help. I'm trying as best as I can to sort out the reference stuff ASAP. I am certainly on the case, I just have to figure out the coding and stuff as we're really new to this. Thanks again. Honor The Earth 15:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey D, I think I'm going overboard with references now. Looking at something like Greenpeace's page there seem to be few concrete references... Is that b/c the org is so famous that most of it is common knowledge? They state the group's 'official mission' though...can we post that on our page? I'm trying to learn from the guidelines but am getting confused a little by examples. Am trying to make sure everything kosher asap though. Thanks! Honor The Earth 13:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Deletion question
editWhy was "Spaceraze" deleted?
Trickster42 15:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, there are two possible answers here. a) It contravened Criteria A7 of WP:CSD. b) Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory or webhost. It will help if you familiarize yourself with content policies and guidelines (WP:WEB for example) before creating any more articles. Happy editing! Deizio talk 15:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I buy that.
I'll create a new SpaceRaze article when SpaceRaze have become famous. ;-)
Trickster42 17:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Leyasu and Blackserenity
editI saw that you left a message to Blackserenity about Leyasu. See this for examples of Leyasu's most recent blitz through wikipedia, much of it targeting edits by Blackserenity.(all of which so far I have reverted) --Wildnox(talk) 17:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Textbot
editHi Deiz. A few days ago, you said on his talk page that you would block Textbot shortly. I was going to remove a template from his user page today so that he wouldn't be listed in the category of users wanting to be adopted, but before I did, I check the blocked log, and he wasn't blocked. I'm guessing he should be now? --TeckWizTalkContribs@ 00:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- You also told the same user, who switched their name to Tanqueray, that they couldn't have that name either since it's copyrighted, yet it hasn't been blocked yet either. --TeckWizTalkContribs@ 00:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Textbot announced his retirement, so a block wasn't high priority. Given his cooperation with the Textbot thing, I was waiting for a response about the Tanqueray issue before blocking, with it being the festive season not everyone is on WP all the time. However Tanqueray has been active today so a block will have to be placed. Deizio talk 11:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Unholy Union
editI'm sorry, i thought since the showing was confirmed it was OK to mak he page. I won't make it again —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MiTfan3 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC).
Destroying America
editOn the article of Brandon DiCamillo once had the movie "Destroying America" on the TV/Movie catagorie. I would like to start the "Desrtoying America" article. I would be able to source my info. I would also like to put it on the TV/Movie catagorie before I create it. (Please reply on my talk page.) ClayteX 13:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Pat, how did you come to the conclusion that this editor might be a sockpuppet / impersonator of WoW? He's made some weird edits and can be uncooperative but WoW? I can't quite see it, I doubt he even knows who that is. Deizio talk 22:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I figured it wasn't a problem to put the tag on, because it only says suspected. However, you will notice that he has the IP address from which, says User:Mackensen, "there is little to no activity... that does not come from Willy on Wheels.": see [3] and Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#195.188.152.16_blocked. Thus, seeing that this user has also been uncooperative in the past, the connection seemed at least likely enough to plop a sock tag on his page. However, you may be right; perhaps I should remove it? -Patstuarttalk|edits 22:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Username
editNo worries - it's better to have sorted this out now than have left it to be brought up later. Trebor 13:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
ClayteX
editWhy was that IP blocked? I am using my high school computer I have told this to several people, It shares the same IP address. I can assure you that it is not me. I want nothing for the best, for ALL Wikipedia articles. It was most likely someone from my high school. But on the WP:CKY page I noted that a vandal did some stuff to the Gnarkill page, and that it should be formated and watched. Just to let you know I am keeping a very close eye on the Bam Margera Wikipage, and have not seen nothing wrong since the "Ă" problem. I really want you to know that I do not mean any harm to Wikipedia. ClayteX 19:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Please do not vandalise my comments
editper [4]
The invisible pink unicorn will trample you beneath her holy hooves. Paul Silverman 13:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a question in there. ClayteX 17:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
J00sux0rz
editHey sorry, probably should have listed what it meant. But was in a rush, plus sometimes you forget not everybody else speaks your native language... ;p In brief it means "you suck". Mathmo Talk 19:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
As edit summaries go, "Not good enough. Try again." isn't bursting with valid rationale
And removing tags without making the slightest attempt to address them is well argued? That's not how I see it. --Calton | Talk 14:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Was my reason for removing the tag unclear? I've stated it twice now.
Free clue: the "two notable stars" were listed in the article when I added the tag. A washed-up 80's TV star and a skateboarder, the extent of their actual roles or appearences unclear, makes it encyclopedic? Not good enough. Try again. --Calton | Talk 22:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Ayatollah
editThe user asked in their page if the name is appropriate so I've told them my views and also linked to our policy. Hopefully they'll change it themselves or ask for comments. If not, I'll probably relist it.
I originally listed it since I thought the user was just a troll so asking would probably do no good. I had thought he/she was consistently asking about Muslims or Arabs and terrorists/terrorism in the reference desk but one a closer look a number of his/her questions have been in other areas. I got confused because their latest question which is what made me notice the name delved into terrorism but it wasn't said user who started in this direction. Nil Einne 16:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the band's notability - please see the article talk page. 217.155.20.163 11:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
TeckWiz's RFA
editPerth
editYup we may have policies - but it looks illiterate to have unalpha'd lists in dab in my opinion - I'll leave it - but i think hit oriented order is not appropriate - its more the ssassenachs way! :) SatuSuro 03:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Usernames
editNo problem, I was planning on deleting it myself anyway. Just wanted to spark some thought on the irony and absurdity of some of these debates. Kaldari 02:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Deletion Review
editCould you take a look at an AFD for me as an administrator? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Johnson (artist) The article contains no sources for notability. I suspect the administrator that ruled keep simply looked at the number of keep votes and ruled as such. The problem, however, is that the subject himself pleaded the readers of his blog to argue on his behalf and those who voted for keep were either anonymous IPs or newly created users. The arguments for keep consisted of WP:ILIKEIT arguments and non were framed under wikipedia guidelines. Your help is appreciated. - Ocatecir 04:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Scott Johnson AfD
editSorry, about that. I guess I looked it over too quickly the first time and missed all those SPA's voting. I have now closed the AfD as delete. Nishkid64 13:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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