Template:Did you know nominations/Yato Dharma Tato Jaya

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Yato Dharma Tato Jaya

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*... that Yato Dharma Tato Jaya occurs a total of eleven times in the Mahabharata? Source: "... and the second--"where dharma is there is victory"--occurs eleven times independently?" (http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780195394238.001.0001/acprof-9780195394238 page 545)
- ALT1:... that the motto of the Supreme Court of India is Yato Dharma Tato Jaya which means "there is no victory without justice"? Source: "The words inscribed on the Supreme Court logo are “Yato Dharma Tato Jaya”, which translates to 'there is no victory without justice'." (https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/opinion/columnists/miscellanous/why-justices-broke-the-code-of-silence/articleshow/62477133.cms)
- ALT2:... that the phrase Yato Dharma Tato Jaya, which occurs eleven times in the epic Mahabharata, means "there is no victory without justice", and is the motto of the Supreme Court of India? Source: Combination of above two sources

Reviewed: Not needed, my second DYK nomination

Created by Gbohoadgwwian (talk). Self-nominated at 08:21, 29 May 2018 (UTC).

Moved from sandbox within the last five days. Article is new enough, long enough, and NPOV; no obvious copyvio. No image and QPQ not required. The hook is inline cited to a book published by Oxford University Press. I knew what the Mahabharata was but had no idea about the Yato Dharma Tato Jaya so, on that basis, I thought the hook is interesting. My thoughts were redeemed when I discovered an interesting article that explains it's a Sanskrit phrase that appears on the Indian Supreme Court building. Looks great! Chetsford (talk) 06:03, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Gbohoadgwwian, Chetsford, and Yoninah: Due apologies, but I've pulled this for the moment. The topic is fascinating, and there's a lot of potential here. But the general reader is going to see "did you know that [phrase I don't understand] appears in [work I don't know]?" Moreover, there's a lot of potential for more interesting stuff here. Heck, even posting just the translation would be better. Motto of the Indian Supreme Court...no victory without justice...I think you could get 10K views if we got this right. Oh, and we should probably qualify "Mahabharata" with "mythological epic" or some such (don't call it Indian or Hindu, please, dodgy territory there). Vanamonde (talk) 04:36, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Added alternative. Gian ❯❯ Talk 05:25, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Honestly I'd combine the fact that it's in the Mahabharata, the translation, and the supreme court into a single (slightly wordier but much more interesting) hook. Vanamonde (talk) 05:39, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Let me think of an alternative, it may become wordy. Gian ❯❯ Talk 06:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Added one more alternative as per the suggestions. Gian ❯❯ Talk 08:42, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

I've reworded it. Much better, I think. A new reviewer may be necessary, unless Chetsford is willing to take another look. Vanamonde (talk) 08:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Looks quite nice to me. I took the liberty of adding the in Alt1 before "Supreme Court". Between Alt1 and Alt2 my preference would be to Alt1 only because the sentence has a slightly simpler construction but they both seem good! Chetsford (talk) 09:32, 12 June 2018 (UTC)