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The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk) 13:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Tova Friedman

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Moved to mainspace by MSacerdoti (talk), Thriley (talk), and Silver seren (talk). Nominated by Silver seren (talk) at 02:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC).

  • Source 1 says "her birth on Sept. 10, 1938", while your article says September 7. Did 09/07 come from another source? Source 1 also does not mention Gdynia or Danzig. I'm not the world's biggest expert on the subject, but is it appropriate as your writing does to call Gdynia a suburb of Danzig, which was then another country? I don't think for example Mexican settlements by the US border would be called suburbs of San Diego or San Antonio. I don't also see verification from source 1 that her ghetto was of 15,000 Jews in six buildings - the closest being that it had 5,000 Jewish children and five survivors. Nor do I see verification in the source about being transferred to Starachowice, we see that they "went to work in a factory; they were slaves", but it doesn't say it was ammunition. Third paragraph is unsourced. The hook itself is interesting, that's why I picked it, it's factual and it comes from a reliable news source. Moving onto source 2, I see that this backs up the issues I raised above, but it's not cited inline, and the wording looks very, very similar to what you've written. Earwig copyvio detector comes up with 39% similarity with the Auschwitz source: the similarity in the list of her qualifications has to happen, but there are other sentences that could very easily be rewritten [1]. Also, I see nothing in citation 2 to back up that they moved to the US in 1950 due to antisemtism; the source seems to jump from the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz to 1950 and gives no reason for their migration. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
  • I think the Calvin source is just wrong, since I can find multiple other sources, including the former ref 2 in the article by Friedman herself that says September 7th. I've extended the ref to cover that, along with all other instances on referencing being needed.
  • Not sure what is good for Danzig either or what the manual of style says for time period issues like that.
  • I have corrected 15,000 to 5,000.
  • Starachowice is in the other reference, which is covering that now.
  • I've rewritten and generally copy-edited the whole article. Hopefully that fixes those issues? Not sure how to fix the info about her education, since there's no real way to not have that written verbatim.
  • Removed that last bit.
Hopefully that addresses everything. SilverserenC 02:37, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Are you still around, @Unknown Temptation:? Could we maybe get a second reviewer in here? SilverserenC 20:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed to check revised article; previous reviewer has not returned despite having been pinged twice. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Silver seren appears to have addressed most of the above issues. I'd recommend "close to Danzig" to sidestep the suburb issue. "She speaks about her experiences during the Shoah in schools and to various organizations" is uncomfortably close to the source and needs to be reworked. Other Earwig and spot checks only come up with snippets below the threshold of originality. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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