Template:Did you know nominations/Ernestine Gymnasium, Gotha
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
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Ernestine Gymnasium, Gotha
Main school building
... that theancientErnestine Gymnasium in Gotha (pictured) was closed during the Soviet occupation of East Germany and re-opened soon after German reunification?
Source: Detlef Ignasiak, Das literarische Gotha: von den Anfängen bis zum Ausgang des 20. Jahrhunderts (Quartus-Verlag, 2003), p. 372 (in German)
- Reviewed: Hermine Finck
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 00:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC).
Interesting long school history, well told on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook would be good for 3 October, the 30th anniversary of the reunification. The image is great and a must for such a place ;) - So far so good. I did some copy-editing. The name in German is Ernestinum, and I wonder where the English name comes from. Ernestine, in German, is a female given name, so looks misleading to a German. I'd keep the whole thing at the original names, - translation seems not to help identification. I am not happy with "ancient" in the hook which seems to place it at the times of Greeks and Romans. Better a year of foundation perhaps? I don't need "Soviet" if East Germany, or just "Soviet Occupation" - this should be about the school, not German history, so also no repeat of German. I this was my article, I'd pick some of the illustrious pupils ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ernestine is the adjective for Ernest and Ernestine Gymnasium is used in English language reliable sources such as The Modern Review and Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature. You are right that “ancient” usually means older than 16th century, but it can also mean “very old”. As you object to that, I have struck it. The hook clearly is about the school, with two points of reference: reorganization of education during the Soviet occupation caused it to close, and German reunification triggered the refounding. This is surely the most interesting hook, but I have found an Alt. Moonraker (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Alt 1 ... that Schopenhauer was expelled from the Ernestinum at Gotha (pictured)?
Sources: David Cartwright, Schopenhauer: A Biography (Cambridge University Press, 2010), p. 128; Arthur Schopenhauer at brandeis.edu
- Thank you for explaining, and for the ALT that I like a lot. Can't help feeling that the English sources account for a one-digit percentage of all sources about the place, so no way the common name, but won't argue. Can we do it like this: if the hook can be taken pictured on 3 October, I'd go for the original modified as follows
- ALT0a: ... that the Ernestine Gymnasium in Gotha (pictured) was closed during the Soviet occupation of Germany and re-opened soon after the reunification?
- but if not it would be better pictured some other day, and then I'd prefer ALT1?
Thank you for the article, - no, I didn't know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Alt 1 ... that Schopenhauer was expelled from the Ernestinum at Gotha (pictured)?
- Ernestine is the adjective for Ernest and Ernestine Gymnasium is used in English language reliable sources such as The Modern Review and Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature. You are right that “ancient” usually means older than 16th century, but it can also mean “very old”. As you object to that, I have struck it. The hook clearly is about the school, with two points of reference: reorganization of education during the Soviet occupation caused it to close, and German reunification triggered the refounding. This is surely the most interesting hook, but I have found an Alt. Moonraker (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
