Talk:Yogi Adityanath
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Change of image in the infobox
editI do not understand why there has been a change of image in the infobox.[1] It used to have a 2023 photograph File:Yogi Adithyanath in Uttar Pradesh 2023.jpg and it has been changed to a 2017 photograph File:Yogi Adityanath (2).jpg. The edit that made the change was marked as a minor edit and had no edit summary.[2] I am reverting back to the 2023 photograph.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Controversy, criticism and allegations
editIn the realm of Indian politics, controversies arise on a daily basis. It's unnecessary to include every single daily controversy or news item unless the individual in question has been convicted by the Indian Judiciary or has served a considerable amount of time in jail. Also, Having a separate controversies section in articles isn't ideal. Instead, the pertinent issues should be addressed within the relevant sections of the individual's career articles, rather than consolidating them into a section that may incite negativity. I would request editors to discuss here on talk page before adding them.
And this section is already been discussed. Loveforwiki (talk) 12:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Removing everything as you did looks more like white-washing than anything else. Some of this probably should be better off put in the relevant section of the the article, and there's some parts that probably have too much and a hint of WP:COATRACK. Everything straight removed though, no. Ravensfire (talk) 14:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is a good idea to avoid sections focusing on criticisms or controversies. It is much better to incorporate the material into the sections on Adityanath's career, like this. In some cases (such as the teacher recruitment problem mentioned by The WireThe Wire 19 Aug 24) it is not obvious why it is being mentioned in a biography of Adityanath.
- If it was a problem caused by Adityanath's actions, the article should explain this.
- If it was just something that happened when Adityanath was in charge, the section should not be written as blaming Adityanath, but instead say how Adityanath dealt with the problem. (Nobody blames the Emperor Titus for the eruption of Mount Vesuvius during his reign; instead historians praise him for how he handled it.)
- -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Donald Trump#Public image#Incitement of violence, this section deals with the controversies that happened during Trump's tenure and similar things are in biography of other polticians. (Like in Lalu Prasad Yadav, they have put all the controversies together in a section, even the matters that may not be the doing of subject.) Just like the step taken by government in tenure of any leader, the shortfalls also form an important part of biography. As for example, i have seen the details about "water gate scandal" in biography of an American president. The section contains some of the serious issues that happened during Aditynath's tenure and it should be there. Writing only achievements will be like making it an article full of WP:Puffery. Meanwhile, i noticed that such section are part of the tenure as a subsection in articles of other polticians. So, as of now, I have put it as a subsection in Chief Ministership section.- Admantine123 (talk) 01:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Admantine123 So many criticism were mentioned in other politicians like Mamata Banerjee but it was removed claiming same reason. It looks very biased when only targeted politicians gets this kind of one way header with alleged allegations which often politicians get Loveforwiki (talk) 02:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I never visited that page. You are free to add the sourced stuff on that one and feel free to tag me there if someone tries to remove it. I support the inclusions if supported by ample amount of sources. Meanwhile , I observed that you are right about that page. But there was no consensus and two editors who seem to agree did that without involving other editors. I am restoring the section there as well as subsection. Admantine123 (talk) 04:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think Yogi Adityanth's criticism and controversies needs some more strong sources as it has cited single single sources with same website. And it is written like essay. Loveforwiki (talk) 05:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- There are ample amount of sources available for each one. I will be adding them one by one. Admantine123 (talk) 07:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think Yogi Adityanth's criticism and controversies needs some more strong sources as it has cited single single sources with same website. And it is written like essay. Loveforwiki (talk) 05:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I never visited that page. You are free to add the sourced stuff on that one and feel free to tag me there if someone tries to remove it. I support the inclusions if supported by ample amount of sources. Meanwhile , I observed that you are right about that page. But there was no consensus and two editors who seem to agree did that without involving other editors. I am restoring the section there as well as subsection. Admantine123 (talk) 04:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Admantine123 So many criticism were mentioned in other politicians like Mamata Banerjee but it was removed claiming same reason. It looks very biased when only targeted politicians gets this kind of one way header with alleged allegations which often politicians get Loveforwiki (talk) 02:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Donald Trump#Public image#Incitement of violence, this section deals with the controversies that happened during Trump's tenure and similar things are in biography of other polticians. (Like in Lalu Prasad Yadav, they have put all the controversies together in a section, even the matters that may not be the doing of subject.) Just like the step taken by government in tenure of any leader, the shortfalls also form an important part of biography. As for example, i have seen the details about "water gate scandal" in biography of an American president. The section contains some of the serious issues that happened during Aditynath's tenure and it should be there. Writing only achievements will be like making it an article full of WP:Puffery. Meanwhile, i noticed that such section are part of the tenure as a subsection in articles of other polticians. So, as of now, I have put it as a subsection in Chief Ministership section.- Admantine123 (talk) 01:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is a good idea to avoid sections focusing on criticisms or controversies. It is much better to incorporate the material into the sections on Adityanath's career, like this. In some cases (such as the teacher recruitment problem mentioned by The WireThe Wire 19 Aug 24) it is not obvious why it is being mentioned in a biography of Adityanath.