Talk:Whiskey Rebellion

Reference states the opposite "robespierre"

Article states:

"David Bradford, it was said, was comparing himself to Robespierre, a leader of the French Reign of Terror."

This as ONE of the sources uses: "Slaughter 1986, pp. 188–89;" however when I went to look this source up it states the opposite:

"Still there was no organized movement with clearly defined goals. No individuals with the talents of Sam Adams, John Wilkes, or Robespierre emerged to unite and direct this inchoate movement of disgruntled frontiersmen."

Certainly reference should be removed or cited in opposition to the other reference?Msj242 (talk) 04:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Agree that Slaughter does not support the claim that Bradford was comparing himself to Robespierre. Perhaps Hogeland does?

I looked for it in Crytzer, and found this on page 90: "He was truly a man of the era of revolution, a Robespierre of the West, and ..." Crytzer is speaking in an ironic voice. This doesn't directly help us figure out who, right then and there, might have compared Bradford to Robespierre. Bruce leverett (talk) 23:52, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Higginbotham?

Two footnotes are citations to a book by "Higginbotham", but there is no such book in the bibliography. Can anyone suggest where we should look for this? Bruce leverett (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Flags in infobox

@IkuTurisas and Cinderella157: There has been an interesting discussion of this, but it's past time to move the discussion to here, the talk page, rather than carry on an edit war.

An example of a military confrontation in which battle flags of the combatants are given in the infobox is Battle of Shiloh. Is this appropriate for Whiskey Rebellion?

MOS:MILFLAGS says, Can flag icons be used consistently? In other words, do all the groups in a given list have usable flags? If only a few have them, it may be better to omit flags for all the items than to have a different layout for each one. Our article discusses (in the In popular culture section) whether the tax protestors had a battle flag, and concludes that they probably didn't.

The characterization of this event as a "military conflict" or even a "rebellion", despite the common usage, is dubious. The federal government raised an army and sent it to Western Pennsylvania, but all it did there was round up suspects for civilian trials. There was no actual battlefield confrontation, because the tax protest leaders had all fled. Earlier, the tax protest leaders had led an armed force into Pittsburgh, but this force too met no armed opposition. The closest thing to a battle that occurred was when an armed force attacked and burned down Neville's estate; at least there were shots fired and casualties.

Crytzer describes the Whiskey Rebellion as the largest insurrection in the United States before the Civil War. But even the template for infobox military conflict fits poorly: the entries in the right side column are perfunctory and unhelpful. Bruce leverett (talk) 14:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

• MOS:MILFLAGS gives detail on when there is acceptable use of infobox flags. This does not fall to being such a case. While MOS:INFOBOXFLAGS notes an exception for military conflicts the exception has a caveat - the flags must still serve a useful purpose. Regardless of whether this should or shouldn't use the military conflict infobox, the flag should not be there. The guidance is clear. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)