Talk:Verna Grahek Mize

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Hog Farm in topic Milhist tagging


Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk06:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Verna Grahek Mize was given the title "First Lady of Lake Superior" for her campaign to stop a mining company from dumping more than 65,000 tons of "gray gunk" into the lake each day?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:   - The hook needs a source.
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   The hook needs a source and the "Alt1" should be removed as it's blank. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 15:56, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Thanks for the review. The in-line citations are in the article. Because there are three parts, I didn't want to overwhelm the DYK template, but here they are:
* "First Lady of Lake Michigan": here ("For her efforts to stop the dumping, Mize received several honors, including the title of “The First Lady of Lake Superior,” which was given to her by then-Gov. William Milliken.")
* Description of the powdery waste material as "gray gunk": here ("And the people who made their livings from the lake told Verna that the gray gunk from Silver Bay was dimming the blue water for miles around.")
* Quantum of dumping: here ("And it's still going in, 67,000 tons a day, every day.")
* Further support for the quantum: here ("For more than a decade, she learned, the plant ... had been ... then dumping the crushed and powdery wastes, or tailings, into the lake at the rate of 67,000 tons a day, every day.")
Cbl62 (talk) 16:56, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
* @Cbl62:   Well, just remove the "Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)" sentence from the original ALT and this hook will be good to go. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 17:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Done. Cbl62 (talk) 17:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Well, like I said, this article is now good to go!   Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 18:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Cbl62, I'm tempted to insert a wikilink for Lake Superior in your hook. I know we should really put wikilinks in quotes, but I am sure it will not be clear to everyone. In fact, I'm wondering, for the purpose of globalization, if we shouldn't say something like "dumping more than 65,000 tons of "gray gunk" into Lake Superior each day?" No, I don't think that's enough. Let me propose ALT1 to you, that inserts "Michigan" in there, and I'm thinking that that should clue more people in (note also I corrected "then" in your original hook). Drmies (talk) 03:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • ALT1 ... that Michigan's Verna Grahek Mize was given the title "First Lady of Lake Superior" for her campaign to stop a mining company from dumping more than 65,000 tons of "gray gunk" into Lake Superior each day?
Either is fine with me except that I would not refer to her as "Michigan's" since she actually lived in Maryland most of her life. Cbl62 (talk) 03:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Milhist tagging

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Boldly removing the WP MILHIST tag, as per note 3 under the scope section at WP:MILHIST. Military service does not in and of itself place an individual within the scope of the project—particularly in the case of service in modern militaries. To qualify them, an individual's military service must have been somehow noteworthy or have contributed—directly or indirectly—to their notability. Current article content does not make it clear that the work for the Navy Bureau of Aeronautics of the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Navy contributed to her notability, which is mainly coming from being an environmental activist. Hog Farm Talk 13:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)Reply