Talk:United States lighting energy policy

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Just tell me when I won't be able to buy a 60W light bulb -- until then this article is useless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.174.218.5 (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

When Bulbs will be Generally Unavailable

The Preceding poster asked a good question, but then stated an opinion as to the merits of the article.

The U.S. manufacturers of A19 style light bulbs have already changed their tooling to no longer manufacture the 100, 75, 60, and 40 watt globe styles with the traditional tungsten filament. This means that instead of manufacturing the single filament stuck into a globe, they now are manufacturing the halogen filament globe within a globe, and the only thing remaining is the depletion of existing inventories.

Now, the funny thing is, from the silica that goes into the bulb to the final production to the availability on the store shelf, that cycle can take as much as 6 months. So from the time that the production line shuts down making the last 60 or 40W bulb would be 6 months. However, there are still off-shore factories that are able to produce 'rough service' and other decorative, but inefficient, bulbs.

So, to answer the original question, the 60W bulb will still be around (until it is un-economic for the manufacturers to make the bulbs), its name though will be changed.

• The Better question would be 'How long will the inefficient 1200 Lumen bulb be on shelves at less than a dollar per bulb?'

Richard416282 (talk) 15:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Broken Weblink for Reference #7

OK, so I check a reference page, and it comes up with a broken link, the page no longer loads. error 404. Fine.

I try to help by adding the appropriate 'Referenced date' etc.

But now , I get a URL error. from the auto robot at WP. Hmm

Here is the offending link (formatted as code to make it easier to parse)

cite web|
last=Logan|
first=Jeffrey|
title=Lighting Efficiency Standards in the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007: Are Incandescent Light Bulbs "Banned"?|
url=http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSreports/08Mar/RS22822.pdf |
publisher=CRS Report for Congress|
archiveurl=15 August 2011|
archivedate=15 August 2011|
accessdate=17 April 2011|
date=23 April 2008

-- any thoughts as to what 'broke' ? Richard416282 (talk) 16:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok. Found what was broken.

Apparently the archiveurl was filled in as a date. oops.

I hope the following keeps the 'bots happy.

cite web|
last=Logan|
first=Jeffrey|
title=Lighting Efficiency Standards in the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007: Are Incandescent Light Bulbs "Banned"?|
url=http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSreports/08Mar/RS22822.pdf |
archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110815105621/http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSreports/08Mar/RS22822.pdf |
publisher=CRS Report for Congress|
archivedate=15 August 2011|
accessdate=13 January 2014|
date=23 April 2008

Richard416282 (talk) 16:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Useability Time Length of 'Standard' A19 Incandescent bulb

In the current version (2014-03-24), the text for the 'standard' Incandescent bulb indicates that the mean time for failure (IE in a test batch 50% of the bulbs will fail by that time), is anywhere from 750 to 2500 hours. The problem with this definition then is that it fails to acknowledge the improvemnets (and subsequent marketing un-improvements) made in laboratories around the world since the introduction of the first bulbs in the 1890s with subsequent improvments. Prior to the implementation of the light bulb efficeincy restrictions, A19s were available that lasted 10,000 hours. (at least in Canada in 2013-12).

So I wonder what other 'facts' are missing from these article(s). Could there be more to the story than written here.

So perhaps the 'average' of the standard bulb could be extended to include the extra long life, contrary to what the marketing types would lead you to believe. Richard416282 (talk) 09:53, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

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