Talk:The Beginner's Guide

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Hey all! I was reading through the article and was thinking there were a few improvements that could be made, were wondering what you thought of them.

- Maybe we could expand on specific "meta-fictional elements" as they relate to the game? Certainly we could find another article to site that does more then just say "there is meta-fiction here!" - Also I'm noticing all of the sources are game-reviews. There's gotta be something academic out there on this game, might add to the "interpretation" section and help with the above edit. - I also wonder if some of the summary is a little too close to the game's text to not just quote it directly. I'm new to wikipedia though, so maybe I'm off here.

Thanks for reading! Wren Dalton (talk) 05:35, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

This game is an abnormality in that the creator specifically stated he would not want to talk about its development. So all we can really use are reviews and commentary to talk about it. --Masem (t) 05:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

what can be said in the first section without cites?

Okay, The game received polarized reviews. Many reviewers readily took to the narrative and the questions and ideas it raised on game development, while others felt the game forced some of Wreden's thoughts too hard and in a pretentious manner. Further in the article, there are names and citations of which reviewers said what- But, is it okay to do that? Right now a "cite needed" and "who?" is present, and I think that's appropriate. Shouldn't both citations and review authors named upon the first mention? I don't know whether it's better to add cites and names, or just leave out the paragraph and let later sections speak for themselves, but my experience reading past wikipedia articles: Cites first, whether there's explication afterwards or not. Are there new standards concerning this Cuvtixo (talk) 03:48, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Ledes do not need citations as long as the body has that information and includes citations as we already do. See WP:LEDECITE Masem (t) 04:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)