Talk:Taro Tsujimoto
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Curse and media complicity
editAlthough I am unable to properly source the following, I remember it pretty clearly. Any thoughts on including parts of it in the article?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
In fact, some attribute the Sabres inability to win the Stanley Cup to a curse associated with the inability to get Taro signed and in uniform.[citation needed] This, of course, prompted years of local news stories about removing the curse and impending signings after the Sabres lost the Stanley Cup Finals during the season following the draft in a series shrouded with the mystery of a literal fog.
- I would say generally unless its a notable "curse" it really need not be included. The Sabres aren't really cursed, just like the Leafs aren't. Nope the Leafs aren't cursed, they were just brutal for 25 odd years after their Cup win. And a general lack of direction as well.... Someday, Someday it will finally happen again (sheds tear). Croat Canuck talk 21:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Nor are the Kings cursed, or the Blues, or the Canucks; in a sport that's run to dynasties, there's not much room left for the rest. That being said, unsourced recollections are exactly the sort of thing specifically forbidden from articles. The "Curse of Muldoon" we've all heard of. Any local "curse," unencyclopedic. Ravenswing 00:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah you know the Pete Muldoon curse on the Blackhawks was exactly the one I was thinking of that is the only notable one in hockey (I wouldn't say everybody's heard of it though, it happened almost 80 years ago), but other than that none come to mind because as you said, it's just been straight dynasties from about the late 40s until probably 2004 when the Lightning won it and started a new trend. Croat Canuck talk 01:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would say generally unless its a notable "curse" it really need not be included. The Sabres aren't really cursed, just like the Leafs aren't. Nope the Leafs aren't cursed, they were just brutal for 25 odd years after their Cup win. And a general lack of direction as well.... Someday, Someday it will finally happen again (sheds tear). Croat Canuck talk 21:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The Sabres arn't cursed? Are you crazy? Just off the top of my head, I can think of Pat LaFontaine, Dominik Hasek, Daniel Briere and Chris Drury. How can you say they're not cursed? 24.83.3.54 18:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and don't forget Gilbert Perreault , Rick Martin, Alexander Mogilny, Dave Andreychuk, Danny Gare, Phil Housley and Lindy Ruff. 24.83.3.54 18:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- What the fudgemucker are you talking about? Your just listing their superstars? How does that explain any sort of notable identifiable curse? Croat Canuck Say hello or just talk 00:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Think about it. Any team with players that good should be able to win maybe three or four cups. 24.83.3.54 02:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Beats me, but Hasek had the best five year streak any goaltender ever had in hockey history in a Sabres' uniform. As far as the others, the Sabres lost some free agents, but so have other teams; think Ottawa is cursed, or Edmonton? Was Buffalo the only team in hockey history to have a superstar suffer an untimely career ending injury? Tell you what, this Bostonian will see your LaFontaine and raise you an Orr and a Neely. Ravenswing 03:30, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Replacement
editOK, I've heard that someone else was later selected in Taro's place. Unfortunately I can't remember the name. I think it was Bernie Geoffrion but I'm not certain. 24.83.3.54 18:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's incorrect. Ravenswing 13:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Extra
editSports on Earth had an article on Taro today with some additional information: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/66322718/ --AlisonW (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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Creation story before 2013?
editIt is said that the store owner's grandson Ben revealed in 2013, that Imlach had called his grandfather the store owner.
Was there any story before that? Because finnish article tells that Imlach found the name from local phone book, and that he was apparently a chef in japanese restaurant. I could not find too much info about this. 193.64.36.165 (talk) 18:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk · contribs) 01:47, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Review
edit- What a fun article! I will review it shortly. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:47, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Famous Hobo, sorry for the delay! While this is a well written and in-depth article, I am concerned with some of your video references. Per Wikipedia:Video links:
Linking to online videos can be acceptable if it is demonstrated that the content was posted by the copyright holder or with their permission
. I highly doubt John Boutet got permission from TSN to upload this video onto YouTube. If this video gets copyright stuck and taken down, this article loses much of its sourcing material. If you can find references to make up for the video content, I think this is an easy pass. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- HickoryOughtShirt?4 So I was able to remove all of the TSN reference instances. Just about everything was covered in the WGRZ video (albeit with less "pizazz"). The only statement that I couldn't find anywhere else was about how Imlach said Tsujimoto trained in the Himalayas. As much as I would have loved to include that bit of random trivia, it's not necessary to the article, so I cut it. Famous Hobo (talk) 05:16, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Ya, sorry about that Famous Hobo. I know it's annoying to lose interesting content. Have you thought about trying to gain access to Newspaper Archive through the Wikipedia Library? I have found it immensely helpful with older article subjects. Anyways, I am passing this article! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:31, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- HickoryOughtShirt?4 So I was able to remove all of the TSN reference instances. Just about everything was covered in the WGRZ video (albeit with less "pizazz"). The only statement that I couldn't find anywhere else was about how Imlach said Tsujimoto trained in the Himalayas. As much as I would have loved to include that bit of random trivia, it's not necessary to the article, so I cut it. Famous Hobo (talk) 05:16, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- ... that the Buffalo Sabres drafted a fictional player in the 1974 National Hockey League Amateur Draft? Source: https://thehockeynews.com/news/imaginary-buffalo-sabres-pick-taro-tsujimoto-turns-60, https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/paul-wieland-original-buffalo-sabres-public-relations-department-taro-tsujimoto-obituary/c-341145380
- ALT1: ... that the 183rd overall pick of the 1974 National Hockey League Amateur Draft was Taro Tsujimoto, a non-existent player made-up by the Buffalo Sabres management? Source: https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/unknowntaro/71-ecdfb038-dfa4-40fe-9fe4-b3774533136d
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Percy Delf Smith
Improved to Good Article status by Famous Hobo (talk). Nominated by FormalDude (talk) at 14:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Taro Tsujimoto; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article improved to DYK status just on time and meets other DYK requirements. I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been done. Both hooks are cited inline and verified, but I prefer the first hook as being somewhat more eyecatchy and more conductive to people clicking the article and finding out more. It also doesn't really require any knowledge of the NHL or ice hockey to understand. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)