Talk:Sultan bin Abdulaziz
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![]() | On 19 May 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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editWhy is this page not Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud? Other prominent members of the Al Saud family are listed as (for example) Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:45, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Shhhnotsoloud:} Page titles for members of the Al Saud family are tremendously inconsistent, which is a problem only amplified by their size. I suggest no changes be made, unless their is standardisation. You can look at this page for a list of some prominent members, Descendants of Ibn Saud, and you can view this page for how their are formatted differently to their page titles Saudi alumni of Sandhurst The Wiki formatting is here
*Prince [[Mutaib bin Abdullah]] *Prince [[Khaled bin Abdullah]] *Prince [[Khalid bin Sultan]] *Prince [[Khalid bin Bandar Al Saud|Khalid bin Bandar]] *Prince [[Saud bin Abdul Muhsin Al Saud|Saud bin Abdul-Muhsin]] *Prince [[Sultan bin Fahd]] *Prince [[Turki bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud|Turki bin Talal]] *Prince [[Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud#Personal life|Abdulrahman bin Talal]]
- Prince Mutaib bin Abdullah
- Prince Khaled bin Abdullah
- Prince Khalid bin Sultan
- Prince Khalid bin Bandar
- Prince Saud bin Abdul-Muhsin
- Prince Sultan bin Fahd
- Prince Turki bin Talal
- Prince Abdulrahman bin Talal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.64.152.154 (talk) 02:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 19 May 2022
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Strictly speaking this low-participation RM is unopposed, but given the previous discussions on this issue I can't simply assume that consensus exists. Several relists and WikiProject notifications haven't gotten us anywhere, so "no consensus" is my only real option. Going forward, it might be wise to start an RfC to discuss this issue more generally, as suggested below. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:59, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sultan bin Abdulaziz → Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
- Sultana bint Abdulaziz → Sultana bint Abdulaziz Al Saud
- Luluwah bint Abdulaziz → Luluwah bint Abdulaziz Al Saud
- Haya bint Abdulaziz → Haya bint Abdulaziz Al Saud
- Talal bin Abdulaziz → Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
- Nayef bin Abdulaziz → Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
- Muqrin bin Abdulaziz → Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
– The general practice for the Saudi royals (see Category:House of Saud) is to use the surname. This is true for maybe 90% of cases. Perhaps an exception can be made for a few such as Mohammed bin Salman and certainly for the kings, but most of the time and for the articles listed above, WP:COMMONNAME seems to include the surname. Векочел (talk) 22:22, 19 May 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:39, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom and consistency.67.173.23.66 (talk) 18:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: See also Talk:Nayef bin Abdulaziz#Requested move 18 November 2020. A09090091 (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- relisting comment: in November 2020 at Talk:Nayef bin Abdulaziz, there was an RM which had requested the exact opposite names, and was successful. In November 2021, there was another RM which requested titles requested in this RM. The 2021 RM was closed as "no consensus". I believe this RM needs more participation. It is also recommended to establish a precedent/consistency by starting a discussion at relevant wikiproject. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Royalty and Nobility has been notified of this discussion. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 13:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)