Talk:Sulaiman Abu Ghaith
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an interesting tidbit
editThe BBC News "Who's Who in Al Qaeda" summary currently (December 8, 2006) summarizes his whereabouts thus: "It is unclear whether he is currently in Iranian custody, or indeed in Iran at all." Interestingly, this article has ended, since I wrote it in July 2003 and until just now when I slightly modified it, with the sentence: "It is unclear (as of July 2003) whether he is currently in Iranian custody, or indeed in Iran at all." Those so inclined can verify at the internet archive that this sentence originates in Wikipedia, not with the BBC. So it seems that I've indirectly written the BBC's summary of his whereabouts, which is a bit odd, since I'm no expert—indeed, I referenced them liberally in writing this article. --Delirium 10:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Interesting... Geo Swan (talk) 12:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Unreferenced sections
editI added {{unreferenced-section}} to "Activities during the 1991 Gulf War" and "Arrival in Afghanistan in June 2000".
Sulaiman Abu Ghaith#Activities during the 1991 Gulf War is entirely unreferenced. If "His sermons denouncing the occupation and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein gained him some degree of popularity amongst the Kuwaiti people" -- why we should be able to back that up with references.
A meeting with OBL in June 2000 is significant, but if it can't be referenced I think it has to go. Geo Swan (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Regarding the allegation that al Wafa was an al Qaeda fund-raising front -- if US intelligence has any evidence to substantiate this allegation, they haven't made it public. What the Guantanamo captives who played a role in al Wafa testified was that it was a completely legitimate charity, that ran hospitals and orphanages and refugee camps. From their testimony Osama bin Laden resented them, and didn't trust them, due to the overlap in donors. I think it is possible that the suspicions of US intelligence were triggered by tracing the donations. They found the same thing that made OBL jealous -- that some oil-rich guys would donate to al Qaeda one year, and would give their donation to a legitimate charity the next year. I think we need to keep our eyes peeled for other references that address the allegation al Wafa had real ties to al Qaeda.
If there were no real ties then there was nothing suspicious with Abu Ghaith's al Wafa colleagues helping his wives and children escape Afghanistan. Geo Swan (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
With regard to the attack on Faylaka Island -- it is a small island off the coast of Kuwait. It is linked to Kuwait proper by a causeway. Prior to the 1991 war it had some recreational facilities. In 2002 it still hadn't been repaired, and the Kuwaiti government allowed US forces to use it for training. Two or three hot-heads drove to the island and shot at a small unit of US Marines. The Marines rifles were full of blanks, but their pistols had real bullets, and the hot-heads were quickly dispatched. I can't remember the Marine casualties, there may not have been any.
If Abu Ghaith did not end up facing charges for recommending the Faylaka attack the article should say so.
If the hot-heads really had attended an al Qaeda training camp, and yet couldn't effectively ambush Marines armed only with pistols, when they had AK-47s and the element of surprise, I think it suggests al Qaeda training camps didn't provide effective training. Geo Swan (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Picture of Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri
editFor some unstated reason Redsky89 removed this picture [1]. Per WP:BRD I am discussing it. Sooooo, I don't get why that was done. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:26, 16 December 2014 (UTC)