Talk:Saône

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by proposer. I note that I approve of In ictu oculi's writing of a new move proposal on Talk:Rhone. (non-admin closure) Red Slash 22:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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Saône → Saone – I actually don't care if we move this page or Rhone, but it's weird that one has the hat (circumflex) on top of its o and one does not. As per WP:CONSISTENCY let's move one of them. My guess is that the circumflex is probably less well-attested than the plain version (plus the Rhone is the bigger and better article), so my modest proposal would be to move this one. If the request fails to reach consensus to move, then I will, God willing, head to the other river's article and propose a move there. So tell me. Is the diacritic mark Saone-thing we can do without? Or will all roads lead to Rhône? Red Slash 06:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose - But I agree with proposer on WP:CONSISTENCY. The Rhône article had a French accent consistent with WP:FRMOS like every other France article, but it was removed in an undiscussed move and should be restored. As noted many times Google Books OCR searches often don't pick up accents like ô, which means that when clicking through to the actual page the ô is almost always present. Unless a very old ASCII-type source. I just did a river Rhone -Rhône search and the first page of results for "Rhone" (sic) are every single one of them OCR errors. It would have to be a really shit source to deliberately mispell a major French river. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Why not just open discussion on Talk:Rhone to restore the title there? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose. I do not think consistency is a strong argument because different rivers can be treated differently by different sources. I do not know WP:FRMOS but if it is OK with an accent then I think it is better to keep the accent. Sitta kah (talk) 18:53, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose, but for the sake of consistency, move Rhone to Rhône instead. It keeps the proper French spellings and conforms to consistency. JIP | Talk 19:23, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Do we need a separate WP:RM page for that? Sitta kah (talk) 22:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

User:Red Slash, User talk:JIP, User:Sitta kah yes, so I have opened one Talk:Rhone. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:57, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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