Talk:Restormel Castle

Controversy over the site

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In 1999 there was some controversy regarding this site and others under the care of the English Heritage organisation. The Cornish Stannary Parliament wrote to English Heritage asking them to remove all signs bearing their name from Cornish sites by July 1999 as they regard the ancient sites as Cornish heritage, not English. Over eleven months eighteen signs were removed by members of the Cornish Stannary and a letter was sent to English Heritage saying "The signs have been confiscated and held as evidence of English cultural aggression in Cornwall. Such racially motivated signs are deeply offensive and cause distress to many Cornish people". (see external BBC link). *Cornish Stannary Parliament tackles cultural aggression in Cornwall *BBC news - Historic signs case trio bound over

The bias of this paragraph is currently being discussed at Talk:Tintagel Castle Putney Bridge 23:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I edited this a bit, as the language struck me as non-neutral. (Being a Yank, I have no particular axe to grind one way or another. I tried to retain the important information. Polytrope (talk) 02:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

"it's defences were perfect"

I visited the castle at the weekend. There are large windows in the keep opening out to 'ground level' of the top of the motte. There are a number of guide panels which describe how the windows represented a fatal flaw in the castle's defensive architecture and that the castle (in the form we see preserved today) was largely for show and was not intended to survive any serious assault.

Earlier incarnations of the castle before it was re-built in stone may well have not had these weaknesses so the quoted phrase is likely to be at least partly correct. I feel it needs adding to however to represent the above.

Unless anyone has objections I shall look at editing in the near future. --62.173.76.218 13:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Expansion

I've gone through and expanded a bit and added some in-line citations. Hopefully all OK without too many errors. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:13, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

More good stuff. I just a couple of comments:

• I'm not entirely sure what is meant by "It contains a limited number of domestic buildings,[1] clustered around the inside of the wall in an extreme example of the normal style of concentric castles.[2]" Is Pounds calling Restormel a concentric castle, or saying that the domestic buildings were laid out as they would be in a concentric castle? If it's the former, I think 13th-century phase of Restormel is closer to a shell keep (and is described as such by Pastscape) as it only has one circuit of defensive wall.
• "Restormel has seen action only once during its long history, when Charles I's forces drove out the Parliamentarian garrison during the Civil War": I take it the Civil War was the first fighting at the castle, although if so it needs to be said that Simon de Montfort and the Sheriff of Cornwall captured the castle withuot resistance for whatever reason.
• Is it necessary to subdivide the Today section?

A short article but exceptionally well referenced for its size. As with Goodrich, have you considered nominating this as a Good Article? I think it would stand a good chance. Nev1 (talk) 23:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• I was struggling to capture Pounds' point about it being an extreme example; it is a shell-keep, but with an internal bailey formed by a stone wall; the buildings are then forced around that bailey in the same way as they are at Goodrich, for example, but in an extreme fashion because they have to fit into a circle. I've played with the text to try and capture it better!
• I believe so - will fix the text accordingly.
• Probably not - will get rid of the subdivides as you suggest.
• Many thanks! Hchc2009 (talk) 07:17, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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