Talk:Pokémon Sword and Shield

lead sentence in need of copyediting

"As with most other main series Pokémon games, they chronicle the main character's journey in the Galar region, based on Great Britain" This says that most main games take place in the Galar region, despite it being exclusive to Sword and Shield. The sentence that this fragment is taken from is also monstrously long. I'm not sure if the main character is also planning to dethrone the Champion due to its phrasing, or is it just the rivals?--Megaman en m 19:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done Wingwatchers (talk) 02:19, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Use of British English

What justifies the use of British English over American English for this specific Pokemon-related article? The Grand Delusion^{(Send a message)} 00:26, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

@The Grand Delusion Absolutely nothing than the fact that this game's setting is heavily UK-inspired and I agree that alone cannot justify the use of British English. Wingwatchers (talk) 00:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Nothing. I propose aligning Pokémon Generation 8 and 9 to the use of American English to maintain consistency with Generation 1-7 articles. In addition, the American English version of installments appears in the text. We should not switch back and forth. Tom.berryx (talk) 20:36, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Reliable source

I did like to address that less known sources like Nintendo Life, Den of Geek, and Bleeding Cool are in fact reliable per WP:VG/S. You can check there to ensure if a source is in fact reliable. Wingwatchers (talk) 02:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Driveby comments

I was asked on my talk page to provide further input on the article beyond the good article nomination I did a while back. I don't really have time to shepherd another GAN (and it would probably best for the article to get another set of eyes on things) but some thoughts looking it over:

• Lead doesn't adequately summarize the article, being too detailed in some places and not covering other parts well enough, e.g. Conceptualization began immediately following the completion of Pokémon Sun and Moon in 2016, while full development began a year later in September 2017. (The extra date is irrelevant and superfluous given you've already said a year)
  • When the decision to exclude many pre-existing Pokémon from Sword and Shield was announced, it triggered backlash from fans and resulted in a controversy known as "Dexit". If you're not going to go more into the controversy, mentioning the "dexit" name isn't really aiding my understanding.
  • There's nothing about development other than the timeframe on starting it in the lead
  • The games were nominated for numerous awards and won the SXSW Gaming Awards and Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2019. They didn't win the awards shows entirely, and structuring this so we get hit with "Awards" three times is not great.
• The prose is still not really close to FA quality in my eyes. There's lots of awkward constructions throughout, and a tendency to muddy language.
  • The gameplay section: the first paragraph has seven sentences, and three of them are just starting with "The player" repeating.
  • The player and their best friend, Hop, receive one of three starter Pokémon: Grookey, Scorbunny, or Sobble from Leon, Champion of the Galar region and Hop's older brother. lengthy sentence and an issue where the commas make it unclear where the Pokemon ends and the character who gave them to you begins.
  • The two steal one of the relics and begin forcing innocent Pokémon to Dynamax. as opposed to willfully criminal Pokemon?
  • Approximately 1,000 people from multiple companies were involved in the development, marketing, localization, and public relations, and approximately 200 Game Freak employees worked directly on the games while around 100 Creatures Inc. employees worked on 3D modeling; an additional 100 worked on debugging and game testing. General recommendation for sentence length is around 15-20 words; a lot of the article blows past that, as does this (fully twice as long.)
• The first paragraph does a solid job setting up the basic gameplay, but things go south in the following paragraph quickly. It's not clear what the difference between the route system and open world are; the "scare quotes" around so many terms get distracting. After that, the article doesn't explain what raids are, I still don't really get the relation of dynamic and gigantamax transformations (so you can just have the Pokemon grow bigger with no other changes?)
• It's odd we get introduced to the Wild Area no less than three times (in the initial gameplay section, in the new features section, and the setting section.) Likewise some of the setting stuff is redundant with the gameplay mentions.
• The goal of traveling around getting gym badges is likewise repeated in the opening of the story section.
• If there's only 3 or 4 sentences in a section (such as Music) it makes sense to remove the subsection to me.
• The treatment of "Dexit" I think is suboptimal. WP:CRITS recommends against controversy sections, and I think that it's best to follow that here. Some of this is better fitting in the development section, some in release, some in reception.
• Speaking of the reception section, it really should be beefed up. I know some of this is just folding multiple references into a single topic sentence, but more elaboration is needed.

--Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 21:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Dynamax deserves its own page

Enough said. --PyukumukuAce (talk) 14:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Why? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 17:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Pokémon Sword and Shield/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 04:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 22:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

My story with this game is one of sorrow, regret, sin, agony, and eternal damnation.

I mean, uh, hi. I'll take a look at this some time in the next week (hopefully). λ NegativeMP1 22:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

None of the quickfail criteria alone is met, and I don't know how relevant the past review is when it's mostly been rewritten since the last attempts by a completely new nominator. So I'll be treating this as a clean review for the most part. Actual prose comments to follow soon. λ NegativeMP1 18:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Prose review

• "Game Freak approached the games based on the theme of strength and striving to be the "greatest or the strongest," which was expressed through the Switch's status as the most powerful console to run a Pokémon game, the gigantic-size Pokémon Dynamax mechanic, and in-game references to various elements British folklore featuring giants and other mythical creatures." This is a very long sentence, could it be possible to break it up / reword it to be more digestable?
• The whole release section is really long, maybe it could be condensed into a few paragraphs? I'd also recommend renaming it to "Marketing and release", but that's personal preference.
• "Sword and Shield's lack of depth and innovation were criticized" → "Some critics felt that Sword and Shield lacked in depth and innovation."
• As a side note, I made some minor adjustments in areas that I felt were necessary but were too little to warrant bringing up in review. Feel free to change anything you don't like.

Image review

• I suggest adding alt text to the gameplay screenshot and the photo of Ohmori, though this is optional.

Source review

• Spotchecked some uses of 1, 6, 14, 21, 29, 35, 43, 59/60, 69, 83, and 87, all of which verify the text they are associated with.
• As a side note, the reference formatting is fairly inconsistent. Sometimes the website is wikilinked, sometimes it isn't.

Final comments

Overall, this article is pretty well written and it's a very major improvement from the previous version that was failed months ago. I'll put this on hold for now to give you time to address any comments. On a related note, I'm sorry this took so long, I forget that I write myself down to review articles sometimes. λ NegativeMP1 06:38, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@NegativeMP1 I believe I've addressed all of your concerns. I admittedly wasn't sure on how to trim release, but I've tried to make it a bit more easily digestible there for readers. Let me know if anything else needs to be done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Alright, the article looks good. I'll be passing this, good job. λ NegativeMP1 17:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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