Talk:Periyar

Latest comment: 4 days ago by Pharaoh of the Wizards in topic GA concerns
Good articlePeriyar has been listed as one of the Philosophy and religion good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 05:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Anti-Brahmanism vs. Anti-Brahmin

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@Godzilla11111:, your edit had removed the following text that I had added in this section —

However, Ramaswamy did make incendiary statements towards the encouragement of violence against the Brahmin community: "Pambaium parpanaium partha parpanai adi" - If you see a snake and a Brahmin, beat the Brahmin.[1][2][3] Ramasamy also claimed, on several occasions, that to eliminate the caste system, driving away the Brahmins was crucial.[4][5] In October 1957, he supposedly called upon his followers to kill Brahmins and set fire to their houses.[6] On 3 November 1957, Dravidar Kazhagam held a convention in Thanjavur under Ramasamy's leadership and demanded that the Government of India delete provisions from the Constitution dealing with religious freedom (which, they believed, gave protection to the caste system and particularly to Brahmins), and if they failed to do so the copies of the Constitution would be burnt, and portraits and statues of Mahatma Gandhi would be broken; if it produced no results, the Dravidar Kazhagam members would be asked to kill Brahmins and burn their residential localities.[7] In 1973 he again called to "kill Tamil Brahmins" in a speech in Karaikudi.[8]

Do you have any objection if I add it back? — Yuyutsu Ho (talk) 17:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Pandian, Jacob (1987). Caste, Nationalism and Ethnicity: An Interpretation of Tamil Cultural History and Social Order. Popular Prakashan. p. 64. ISBN 978-0-86132-136-0.
  2. ^ Ghafoor, Dr Fazal (2021-04-21). Treading the Beaten Path: A Journey Through India. Notion Press. ISBN 978-1-63745-397-1.
  3. ^ Gorringe, Hugo (2005-01-07). Untouchable Citizens: Dalit Movements and Democratization in Tamil Nadu. SAGE Publishing India. ISBN 978-93-5280-305-7.
  4. ^ Kandasamy, W. B. Vasantha; Smarandache, Florentin; Kandasamy, K. (2005). Fuzzy and Neutrosophic Analysis of Periyar's Views on Untouchability. Infinite Study. ISBN 978-1-931233-00-2.
  5. ^ "Questioning Periyar Is Necessary for Forging a Progressive Anti-Caste Politics". The Wire. Retrieved 2023-04-09.
  6. ^ Nehru, Jawaharlal. Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru. Second Series. Vol. 39. p. 383.
  7. ^ Nehru, Jawaharlal. Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru. Second Series. Vol. 40. p. 387.
  8. ^ "DMK spokesperson supports Periyar's call for 'killing Brahmins'; Subramanian Swamy moves EC". Deccan Herald. 2022-06-09. Retrieved 2023-04-09.

Periyar's anti semitism view changed post holocaust and has condemned Hitler.

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I can add the source if let to edit. Venuvg04 (talk) 19:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Explanation for Periyar's "kill brahmins" statement. Add this.

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https://frontline.thehindu.com/politics/periyar-genocide-brahmins-tm-krishna-sangita-kalanidhi-music-academy-madras-carnatic/article67997754.ece Venuvg04 (talk) 03:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

GA concerns

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I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

  • The article contains uncited statements, including entire paragraphs.
  • The "Controversies" section has several problems: Its inclusion in the article may go against WP:POV, as the article is stating that these are controversies in wikivoice. The first part is mostly quotes, creating copyright concerns, the award controversy doesn't seem to be about him. I think this can either be removed or the information redistributed throughout the article.
  • I think the "Comparisons with Gandhi" section is unnecessary in the article: why is Periyar being compared to this particular historical figure? This section also seems to be trying to elevate Preiyar's standing by comparing him to a favourable figure, which I do not think is the role of Wikipedia. If they cooperated together, that can be mentioned in the biography, but it doesn't need its own section here.

Is anyone willing to address the above concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 15:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

I will take a look when I have time.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply