Talk:Paska (bread)

Reducing US-centrism

I've edited it to try to make it less US-centric - Wikipedia in English is not an American encyclopedia and Paska is a living Eastern European tradition, not a tradition of some mythical "Old Europe" that was brought to the USA where it lives on. Also, there are Eastern European immigrant populations in countries other than the USA, including the UK and Canada where this bread is also eaten.

It would be nice if someone who knows about this could add sections about this bread in specific countries e.g. Poland and Ukraine and perhaps in the UK and Canada as well.

Thespeakingcat (talk) 09:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I've removed this section:

"The symbolism of the Paska derives from the male-centered pagan fertility rites of spring. It is customary when meeting a fellow Eastern European christian to declare "Jesus resurected" while simultaneously presenting the phallic bread as a gift. Attention given to the background of the Paska is scrutinized about as heavily as the background of the Easter Bunny bringing Easter Eggs."

The context of the last line is totally irrelevant given the otherwise small scope of the topic. Greater contextualization of the history of the paska is required before the this topic should be brought up. Citations/references are also required. Colloquial language should also be edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yakym (talk • contribs) 04:31, 18 April 2006

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Merge proposal

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The result of this discussion was do not merge Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:35, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

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I propose that Cheese paska be merged into this article, as it appears that cheese paska is either a subtype of paska, or describes paska served with cheese. --Joel7687 (talk) 14:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for posting the merge template and initiating this discussion. I had considered that option as paska and the cheese dip it's served with are closely related (to the point of sharing a name in Ukrananian although the Ukranian word for cheese is sometimes appended to clarify wheen it's the cheese side being discussed). The stumbling block for me is that kulich, a Russian paska, is a completely separate article from the Ukranian paska and the russian refer to the cheese side as paska. So if you merge the cheese dip to the Ukrainian article on paska then the cheese dip (referred to as paska by Russians who refer to the bread as Kulich) wouldn't be covered at all in relation to Russian paska/kulich, except in an article on Ukranian kulich-paska. Does that make sense? One alternative is to merge the cheese paska article into BOTH kulich and paska, which I guess is a possibility, although it seems cumbersonme. I decided to keep the cheese dip separate since it is after all a side and not one and the same with the Easter bread, even though they are served together (ie. next to each other). It seems that the cheese paska is less common these days for what that's worth. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

It would probably make more sense to merge kulich and paska, in which case it could be covered in the combined article. But given the present political situation I'm not comfortable attempting such an effort. Perhaps someone with more courage than I have can undertake such an attempt. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:10, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Support merge. Not enough sources to warrant independent notability. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:51, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Can you clarify which article you would merge to paska or kulich? Have you read the above discussion? Candleabracadabra (talk) 11:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. I think Cheese paska must be merged into another article, namely Paskha.
In contrast, Paska (bread) can be merged with Kulich. --Off-shell (talk) 10:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Oppose they are entirely independent dishes. Cheese Paskha (spelled PasKHa not PasKa) originates in North Ruussia. Paska Bread is from South Russia & Ukraine. 2.97.131.123 (talk) 22:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

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Trypillian

@Лобачев Владимир: Hey you've been editing this page a while, can you clarify why you removed the Trypillian link in your last edit? (I'm not super invested, but clearly it's been here a while so I was curious if it was incorrect or misleading.) Ogress 16:30, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Citation needed. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 05:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

... Like, it's not clear that's the style from the town of Trypilia? Fair enough. Ogress 09:20, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@DanielLerish

you really create some problems which have more to do with you than with the subject i think. i have seen that you have added Ukraine as a country of origin to Pirozhki and Blini, two typical Russian dishes. i and others leave it that way because of the complicated history and its heritage which belongs often to Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. Paska is a bread tradition in Russia since ancient times and Kulich is one of the dishes of Paska breads. if you continue to ignore that and introduce an edit war here, it will spread to other articles. if you refer to international recipes of western world then you forget the point of authentic cultural fact and the truth behind it. Paska is one of the biggest holidays in Russia and there are several Paska breads in Russia. what you are doing is ok ? you take purely Russian culture with Blini and Pirozhki, but don't want to share an article to a subject which refers to many countries traditions ?

Ukrainian?

Paska is not solely Ukrainian, I'm sure plenty of people there make enjoy it there but I have never known it to be Ukrainian. My family is from Russia and every Easter we make paska, we also refer to it as "Russian Easter bread". I have never been to Russia, nor do I know just how common paska is there, but I think the wikipedia page should acknowledge It's somewhat Russian origins. I don't know my way around wikipedia editing and past pages, so I don't know when paska became known on here as being Ukrainian, but I have my assumptions. I just hope someone can sort this out and make it as accurate as it should be. Thanks. 208.74.106.12 (talk) 07:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Not Ukranian wth?!

The Paska was made long before even ukraine ever existed! It is an italian cake! Must have been around the gothic period. StopFakinThisShit (talk) 22:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)