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Ideological base
editThe section, as it is now, is terrible. First and foremost because it doesn't even give a hint of what's the ideological position of the party, but also because of the language. Not everyone can write in english like a brit or an american, but seriously... Pharaohmø 19:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC) [[=100001363679075&p[]=178072748893839]] Share Imran Khan on facebook I'm not sure how much of an ideological base Imran Khan's party has, but the entry here is hardly objective - it looks more like a party leaflet. Can someone who actually knows Pakistani politics rewrite it with a bit more objectivity please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.85.13.113 (talk) 09:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Totally correct. Rewriting is essential. Zaslav (talk) 22:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- The original article was much better. How can a political party have a major influence on the middle class and win only 0.8% of the national vote? Kf0030 (talk) 06:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Point well made. This article: Economy_of_Pakistan#Growing_middle_class suggests a middle class of 30 million people. Their votes wwere rougly 150m (mid point in 2002 from Pakistan) x 40% (turnout) x 70% (rough voting age population) x 0.8% = 350k. That's about 1% - even allowing for my broad brush approach it doesn't make a "major influence". I'm going to delete this sentence. AndrewRT(Talk) 13:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Share Imran Khan on Facebook — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsaeed163 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Electoral Position
editI haven't worked on Political Party entries, but shouldn't this have a table of what their electoral position has been in elections they have contested? --iFaqeer (talk) 06:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Edit request from , 3 November 2011
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|Youth_wing = Insaf Youth Wing
180.178.141.102 (talk) 04:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:21, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
References
editTis article about a major Pakistani political party only seems to contain one citation as reference. Might not more refs/citations be added pl? Thanks 39.54.138.29 (talk) 05:59, 10 March 2012 (UTC)Prof Asad U Khwaja
Citations needed
editAlthough the content in this entry is comprehensive, I could hardly find enough citations to back half the content here. It should be taken up as a vital exercise to clean up the entire article and present factual information with proper citations so as the people looking for their party favourites in Pakistan's next election get accurate information. Please note that any unreferenced or unsourced material will be removed from the article and also ensure that there are no peacock terms and weasel words as well. - Arun Reginald (talk · contribs) 02:54, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 8 September 2012
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Can you remove the picture of Ejaz Chaudhary and Ahsan Rasheed on the PTI webpage? You should put a group photo of Party leaders here? What are trying to show by just showing pictures of these two people only?
192.75.88.232 (talk) 20:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Not done: The thing about pictures is availability.
Are there any group shots of the PTI leadership?
BTW, I only see pictures of Imran Khan and one with Chaudhary in the background.
I don't think any sort of idea is being pushed.
left- right politics
editLeft- right politics is not a specific political stance. This term is used for whole ideological politics. PTI is Social Conservative (right wing) and Fiscally Progressive (left wing) and collectively Communitarian(Centrist). it's agenda slogan 'Islamic Welfare State' says it all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed 313-326 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
The party's actually right wing, as indicated by Imran Khan's willingness to talk with the Taliban — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bakbar480 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Unbiased
editThis article seems to be unbiased in its content. It is written in a style that is advocating the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.152.15.77 (talk) 13:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
RefImprove
editIs it possible to request a removal of the refimprove tag on this page - I believe it has gone through enough improvements and stands at a very authenticated wiki reference to Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Dr. Awab Alvi (talk) 12:20, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- There are still four sections that don't cite a single inline source. I think it needs further reference improvement. -- SMS Talk 13:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you - I will work to improve this further Dr. Awab Alvi (talk) 13:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Would it be possible for a second review - Ive been working hard to re-organize the page and have updated many references Dr. Awab Alvi (talk) 12:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Edit request
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Saifullah Khan Niazi (Urdu: سیف اللہ خان نیازی), Additional Secretary General of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf. He went to Huron High School, Ann Arbor, MI USA. Currently resides in Bara Koah (بارہ کوہ), Islamabad, Pakistan. Saifullah Niazi is a Member of CEC (Central Executive Committe) of the party and also a member of Central Finance Board. Early Life: Political Career: Role in PTI Intra Party Elections:
Googlibear (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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Party position described here in ajk assembly is wrong. In Ajk Pti has 2 mla out of 49 Asad Javed Khan (talk) 03:46, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
PTI proved of taking Prohibited Foreign Funds recently by Election Commission of Pakistan.. must include it SHERAZ GILL (talk) 05:49, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2014
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116.71.136.130 (talk) 13:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2014
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Remove Javaid Hashmi As the president of Pakistan Tehreek e Insaaf. Fmksr2007 (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. as far as I can tell from http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-158367-Imran-moved-forward-against-party-decision:-Javed-Hashmi this it seems he is still president Cannolis (talk) 15:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2014
editEDIT REQUEST FOR SEMI PROTECETED PAGE PAKISTAN TEHREEK E INSAF :
I want that you should include the name of one founder member whO is missing IN THE LIST. The name of the founder member is 'INAYAT KARIM ' .He joined PTI on 1st MAY 1996 6 days after the formation , He aslo fought elections on the behalf of PTI . He is a well-known person of BAHAWALPUR and now he is designated as the vice president south punjab elected by intra party elections of PTI. I have seen the list of founder member which is with PTI office and I have also seen his pics with CHAIRMAN PTI IMRAN KHAN in rallies and jalsa's now as well as at the start of PTI's history. So i want this founder member of PTI should also be included in the list of founder member with others.
Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2014
editEDIT REQUEST FOR SEMI PROTECETED PAGE PAKISTAN TEHREEK E INSAF :
I want that you should include the name of one founder member whO is missing IN THE LIST. The name of the founder member is 'INAYAT KARIM ' .He joined PTI on 1st MAY 1996 . 6 days after the formation , He aslo fought elections on the behalf of PTI . He is a well-known person of BAHAWALPUR and now he is designated as the vice president south punjab elected by intra party elections of PTI. I have seen the list of founder member which is with PTI office and I have also seen his pics with CHAIRMAN PTI IMRAN KHAN in rallies and jalsa's now as well as at the start of PTI's history. So i want this founder member of PTI should also be included in the list of founder member with others.
Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2015
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There are now 7 PTI senators. Senior leader Azam Swati was elected to the upper house thru a by-election. http://tribune.com.pk/story/885887/assembly-for-upper-house-ptis-azam-swati-bags-senate-seat-in-by-polls/ SKYCAN134 (talk) 17:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2015
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foundation date is 15 April 1996 plz correct the date. Reference is from ILMI guide for FIA Inspector.
shfaizan 17:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
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Change "It's ideology" to "Its ideology", i.e. remove the apostrophe and correct this huge grammatical mistake in the 2nd sentence of the article. APal Wikiwriter (talk) 12:34, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done along with "It's leader" in the second paragraph - Arjayay (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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Political Position
editThis Al Jazeera article claims that PTI is centre-right. To what extent can we validate that it is in fact centrist and not centre-right? Masterpha (talk) 11:54, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Kanjr parti بابر حسین (talk) 20:05, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "auto1":
- From Pakistani general election, 2018: "Nawaz Sharif verdict: Ahead of general elections, Pakistan Army exhibits super show of 'soft coup' to prop up extremist parties - Firstpost". www.firstpost.com. Retrieved 7 July 2018.
- From Punjab, Pakistan: Arif, G. M. "Poverty Profile of Pakistan" (PDF). Benazir Income Support Programme. Government of Pakistan. Archived from the original (PDF) on 13 December 2016. Retrieved 14 July 2016.
See Table 5, Page 12 "Rajanpur District"
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- From Pakistani general election, 2018: Kanwar, Kamlendra (7 July 2018). "Nawaz Sharif sentencing: More to the judgment than meets the eye". newsnation.in. Retrieved 8 July 2018.
- From Punjab, Pakistan: "Rigveda 1.126:7, English translation by Ralph TH Griffith". Archived from the original on 25 March 2010.
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- From Pakistani general election, 2018: "Pakistan: General Elections Subverted By Army-Judiciary Nexus – Analysis". eurasiareview.com. 6 July 2018. Retrieved 6 July 2018.
- From Punjab, Pakistan: Government of the Punjab – Planning & Development Department (March 2015). "PUNJAB GROWTH STRATEGY 2018 Accelerating Economic Growth and Improving Social Outcomes" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 March 2017. Retrieved 14 July 2016.
The industrial sector of Punjab employs around 23% of the province's labour force and contributes 24% to the provincial GDP
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Content removed from lead
editI removed this, already tagged as confusing, from the lead: "PTI has led the efforts to highlight corruption of the rulers. This effort is spearheaded by Chairman Imran Khan himself. Party activists especially Abdul Quayyum Khan Kundi, Saleem Jan, Jahangir Rehman, Ali Asghar Khan, Shahbaz Gul Shinwari, Yaqoob Izhar and Dr. Farid Malik have requested party Chairman that without constitutional organization the divisions inside the party cannot be overcome which could cause us to lose general elections. Abdul Quayyum Khan Kundi held a press conference in front of Bani Gala to request chairman Imran Khan to initiate a dialogue and consensus about party institution building.[1]". Fences&Windows 13:48, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
- ^ رشید, ہارون (2017-02-23). "'میرا موازنہ نواز شریف سے ہرگز نہ کریں'". BBC Urdu. Retrieved 2017-02-27.
"abolition of personal income tax"
editDoes the party really stand for "abolition of personal income tax" as written in the beginning. I thought the opposite is the case, because no one pays income tax they want to raise awareness and also tax the rich more. Ceever (talk) 12:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Please add this tag to the main page
editThank you. 205.189.94.17 (talk) 19:16, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
This requirement still holds. Thanks, 205.189.94.17 (talk) 19:42, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
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Lifting article to the GA status
editArticles related politics of Pakistan need most and immediate improvements & re-write ups. A while ago when I bumped upon this article, it was almost like an advertisement poster from the party. Existing version looks much better now with a good lead but needs a lot of work on sections. I'd like it fellow editors support me replace all party with sources with third party sources with neutral write ups over all sections with maximum use of inline citations.
I know the task isn't going to be that easy as not only Pakistani politics has relatively limited coverage in scholastic sources. But also because PTI is too new party to power. If we can maintain a high quality even after these issues and obtain WP:GA status for it, it will be great. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 06:09, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2020
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Chief of Staff of Chairman 182.186.126.240 (talk) 04:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 12:10, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Add Islamism to party ideology?
editRecent actions by Pakistani government suggest to me that Islamism should be added to the party ideology Black roses124 (talk) 00:29, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
My removal of content
editI removed[1] significant additions by 51412techno. The primary reason was that most of the text added under Position read like an election pamphlet; certainly it was far from an impartial, encyclopaedic description. Then, the "political position" in the infobox was expanded with promotional slogans, like "social justice", etc. (which obviously has nothing to do with political positions); party membership data was updated as "2021", however all the three added references were nearly a decade old. And so on. — kashmīrī TALK 10:37, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Logo fair use?
editThe logo has fair use in it. But its just a crescent Islamic symbol on a green circle with PTI written on it. So shouldn't it be public? Just curious hence asked. -- Manasbose (talk | edits) 07:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2022
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Hi.I have noticed a major mistake and am requesting to fix it, I am an experienced webpage editor and am wanting to fix a mistake.By Yours Only:Imran Khan 2400:ADC1:144:3B00:31C2:C634:338B:EC91 (talk) 21:58, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2022
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Please change the name of the title from "Foreign Funding Case" to "Prohibited Funding Case". Source: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/966429-ecp-changes-name-of-foreign-funding-case-to-prohibited-funding Aesthetic Coder (talk) 17:48, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Is there any indication that new official name is the common name of the case now? – robertsky (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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election symbol of PTI
editElection symbol of PTI on the page is incorrect. The one used belongs to https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Gujarat_Parivartan_Party.
You can use the correct one available here:
Slyshooter (talk) 09:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're correct. Both bats have different designs, but we can't really use this image, this is promoting the subject. Thanks Ahated (talk!) 05:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
please bring chairman on top then vice chairman, president, general secretary and so on. 120.17.9.251 (talk) 06:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: The hierarchy in the source code is correct, the algorithm itself picks the president as the highest person. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 06:28, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2023
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182.178.196.177 (talk) 11:01, 4 June 2023 (UTC) Add Omer sarfaraz cheema, Arif Ali,Hamid Khan,Najib Haroon and Naeem Ul haq as party founders with Imran Khan
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2023
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2400:ADC1:19A:3400:5AD:73B3:1B35:260A (talk) 10:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Please add in the information Colum (Sports & Culture Wing) Insaf Sports & Culture Wing.
Regards,
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PTI Pakpattan president
editNew president for Pakpattan, Mr. Mian Murad Bhatti President for tehsil Arifwala, District Pakpattan. General secretary is Ali Hussnain Khan Rath. PTIfan123 (talk) 07:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
PTI presidents
editPlease include PTI presidents for each district, not just a vague list. Since, everyone from each district is very meaningful and important for the party. PTIfan123 (talk) 07:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2023
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Ahmad grewaal (talk) 06:52, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Supreme Leader
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Chairman & SG infobox lines
editFor the time being, the Supreme Court judgement in Election Commission of Pakistan v. Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is in force regarding the party's latest internal elections. In the detailed reasoning released recently the bench holds that no election was held at all on 2 December 2023. Regarding two officers mentioned in the infobox in particular, it stated (p. 18):
- "Mr. Umer Ayub Khan describes himself as the Secretary General of PTI, but without there being anything credible on record to show how he had assumed this important position."
- "Mr. Gohar Ali Khan describes himself as the Chairman of PTI, but in his case too there is nothing credible on record to establish how he had claimed to be the Chairman, and supplanted himself with Mr. Imran Ahmed Khan Niazi"
Should the infobox lines be changed to reflect this, i.e. back to Imran Khan for Chairman and vacant for SG? Regardless of its merits, the SC order states the legal position until and unless it's overturned; on the other hand, in practical terms the party rejects the judgement and continues to treat Gohar as Chairman and Umer Ayub as SG (negotiations, media appearances etc.). Media sources aren't unanimous: Dawn has Gohar as "former PTI chairman", the Pakistan Observer refers to him as chairman. 62.77.213.132 (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2024
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Ahmad grewaal (talk) 06:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
| leader = Imran Khan
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2024
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64.38.107.101 (talk) 03:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
PTI also has left wing factions.
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Pti seats need to be updated
editthis entire page needs to be updated really but the seats are the important and most noticeable Ricky dicks (talk) 12:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Need for sources
edit@Saqib You must provide sources for the content you restored; otherwise, I will have no choice but to revert your changes. Without sources, the content is considered original research. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:14, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Seats should be updated.
editSeats Should be updated. 2001:1670:10:2727:5EA:98C:E045:8393 (talk) 22:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Secretary general
edit@Titan2456 The source you provided does not definitively show that Omar Ayub’s resignation was not accepted. It merely indicates that some party leaders disagreed with Imran Khan’s decision to accept his resignation and urged reconsideration. This information is from the day he resigned. Do you have a more recent source confirming that he remains secretary general? If not, we will need to remove that entry, as numerous sources state that Imran Khan accepted his resignation. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.geo.tv/latest/552970-omar-ayub-to-continue-serving-as-pti-secretary-general-since-resignation-not-accepted Titan2456 (talk) 18:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Try adding latest sources so everyone can save time from inadvertently fighting edit wars. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. Titan2456 (talk) 18:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Try adding latest sources so everyone can save time from inadvertently fighting edit wars. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Not adding sources
edit@Titan2456 Response to your edit summary here, Why do you rush to undo my edits?
, why do you add content without adding sources? Your continued belligerence by not adding sources has wasted my time; an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You can avoid this hassle by adding sources with every piece of content you add because I believe you are here with a pro-PTI agenda, which raises suspicions about the content you add. This content you added lacks sources and would not stand if you added them. I have already told you many times that there is a lot of confusion about PTI’s status in the political landscape of Pakistan, so unless you add sources, I am not going to let those contributions stay under my watch. Don’t waste your time and mine as well. I would like to work on something else; I am not enjoying this. And rest assured, I will take this to the next level if you do not comply. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- You have been patrolling this article like a Sheriff since before I joined Wikipedia, why are you asking for sources for 2024 but not for 2018, 2013 and the elections before? You are not even telling me where to add sources, in the table? All the elections have their citations from the election article itself like I said before. Titan2456 (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Make sure you get your facts right before you open your mouth. My first edit on this article was on 26 January 2024. You can’t expect me to overhaul all of Wikipedia. We’re all volunteers doing what we can with our available time. If you want to remove all other unsourced content, feel free, otherwise, I’ll do it once I’ve addressed other priorities. Revising the whole article is more time-consuming than making spot corrections or addressing sections when needed. Add the sources in the table, if you can add unsourced notes in the table, you can certainly add sources in the table. For instance, provide a source showing Aslam Iqbal’s current affiliation in the Punjab Assembly as PTI, add a source for the note about PTI claiming more votes than they received, and source the claim of PTI having 133 seats in the PA. Do the same for all other entries. If you plan to add content without sources, don’t waste your time. If you’re concerned about time, then allocate a bit more to include sources. I will clean up this page of all unsourced content once I’ve taken care of other priorities, so you should start sourcing all the remaining unsourced content. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- I also started editing in January 2024. It is not about how many registered seats there are, they are PTI members nonetheless, it is NOT about PTI’s current status in the assembly but how many seats PTI members, regardless of which party they were on the ballot on, won, which if you bothered to check the elections linked are the exact same number as I put.
- What is the point of using language like “Before you open your mouth” or “I will take this to the next level”? Bhai this isn’t some debate or political game trying to kick the other editor out, just tell me what I need to fix, and I’ll say if it doesn’t need to be fixed or not and give a reason, if the reason is not proper then we’ll have a normal discussion. Titan2456 (talk) 22:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- My straightforward response is to include sources with your content, and we will evaluate their validity. “Trust, but verify,” as the saying goes. Any content without sources is subject to removal, as I have emphasized repeatedly. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’m adding citations to the notes. Titan2456 (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- According to the Supreme Court decision and the subsequent ECP notification, only a specific number is categorized as PTI. You should include the same numbers in the electoral performance section as in the infobox. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 04:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I did the ECP notification for the main infobox, but in the electoral performance, I am referencing the election articles themselves like 2024 Punjab election or 2024 general election, which say “PTI-Ind” won a certain amount of seats which I added. Titan2456 (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- You cannot use WP articles as a source. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Instead of doing this, might it be better to add a footnote saying that the seats won were won by Independent candidates representing PTI, they are PTI members unable to contest due to the intra party election case. All the electoral history composition bars represent how many seats were won during the election not how the assembly looked after the election. Titan2456 (talk) 04:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- You cannot use WP articles as a source. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I did the ECP notification for the main infobox, but in the electoral performance, I am referencing the election articles themselves like 2024 Punjab election or 2024 general election, which say “PTI-Ind” won a certain amount of seats which I added. Titan2456 (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- According to the Supreme Court decision and the subsequent ECP notification, only a specific number is categorized as PTI. You should include the same numbers in the electoral performance section as in the infobox. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 04:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’m adding citations to the notes. Titan2456 (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- My straightforward response is to include sources with your content, and we will evaluate their validity. “Trust, but verify,” as the saying goes. Any content without sources is subject to removal, as I have emphasized repeatedly. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Make sure you get your facts right before you open your mouth. My first edit on this article was on 26 January 2024. You can’t expect me to overhaul all of Wikipedia. We’re all volunteers doing what we can with our available time. If you want to remove all other unsourced content, feel free, otherwise, I’ll do it once I’ve addressed other priorities. Revising the whole article is more time-consuming than making spot corrections or addressing sections when needed. Add the sources in the table, if you can add unsourced notes in the table, you can certainly add sources in the table. For instance, provide a source showing Aslam Iqbal’s current affiliation in the Punjab Assembly as PTI, add a source for the note about PTI claiming more votes than they received, and source the claim of PTI having 133 seats in the PA. Do the same for all other entries. If you plan to add content without sources, don’t waste your time. If you’re concerned about time, then allocate a bit more to include sources. I will clean up this page of all unsourced content once I’ve taken care of other priorities, so you should start sourcing all the remaining unsourced content. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Civility aside, it is pretty simple. No source, no content. Make sure what you add is cited by a "reliable" source. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @CNMall41 where will citations need to be added for the template to be removed. Titan2456 (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure I understand the question fully. Anything on the page that is not cited by a reliable source needs to be sourced or removed. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point out an example of an uncited claim. You are the one who added the template that this page needs additional citations. Titan2456 (talk) 21:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure. I went ahead and removed it all. You can see it here. Wikipedia is not the publisher of original research so feel free to add it back once you have reliable sources to support. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- SheriffIsInTown added the updated info :)Titan2456 (talk) 23:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- While we’re addressing this, it’s important to have no unsourced information. I agree with CNMail41’s action to remove all unsourced content. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 23:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- SheriffIsInTown added the updated info :)Titan2456 (talk) 23:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know who added any claim. I am responding to your comment - "Can you point out an example of an uncited claim. You are the one who added the template that this page needs additional citations" - which appears to be a WP:CIR issue as looking at the page it was clear there was a large amount of information that had no sources. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I can see that now. Titan2456 (talk) 15:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure. I went ahead and removed it all. You can see it here. Wikipedia is not the publisher of original research so feel free to add it back once you have reliable sources to support. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point out an example of an uncited claim. You are the one who added the template that this page needs additional citations. Titan2456 (talk) 21:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure I understand the question fully. Anything on the page that is not cited by a reliable source needs to be sourced or removed. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)