Talk:Ordre des Arts et des Lettres
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Confusion about de-grading
editCan a recipient who has been conferred with a higher grade (Commander) be again conferred with a lower grade (Chevalier) order? This is the query at the reference desk. Jay (talk) 07:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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Requested move 16 October 2024
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Ordre des Arts et des Lettres → Order of Arts and Letters – Per WP:CRITERIA; the Order is more commonly referred to as "Order of Arts and Letters" in English-language sources. Zoolver (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Zoolver (talk) 02:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Some references from the past 10 years:
- https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/bono-awarded-frances-highest-honor-for-artists-2049437/
- https://variety.com/2016/film/global/michael-keaton-gets-frances-order-of-arts-and-letters-honor-1201682295/
- https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/quebec-filmmaker-xavier-dolan-joins-france-s-order-of-arts-and-letters-1.4704305
- https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2022/art-historian-honoured-by-french-government
- https://cup.columbia.edu/associate-provost-and-director-of-columbia-university-press-jennifer-crewe-receives-the-award-of-chevalier-of-the-order-of-arts-and-letters-from-the-cultural-services-of-the-french-embassy-in-new-york
- https://deadline.com/2024/07/tom-cruise-knight-legion-of-honor-france-1236024561/
Support - as this is English language Wikipedia. GoodDay (talk) 03:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, the French title is also often used in English and overwhelmingly the COMMONNAME, so I'd rather keep it there despite UE.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. The French title is the overwhelmingly common name. We do not translate everything into English just because "this is English language Wikipedia". -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:57, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This list article for this subject is at List of members of the Order of Arts and Letters. I have no preference as to outcome myself, but it might be best if both articles used the same org name. BusterD (talk) 12:14, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nom moved the list right before they made the technical move request. Note to closer: if this RM is closed as
not moved
orno consensus
, the list should be moved back. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nom moved the list right before they made the technical move request. Note to closer: if this RM is closed as
- Relisting comment: Please cite your support/oppose with verifiable stats. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)