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Population density
editThe article states that Namibia has the world's second lowest population density, but links to another page which clearly lists, amongst fully sovereign states several nations as having lower population density (Mongolia, Australia, Botswana, Mauritania, Suriname and Iceland). Whilst some of the sources used in the table that the claim links to on Wikipedia are a few years old, the sources listed on that page seem more recent than the one used in this article. The source used for the statement in this article is a 2008 document - almost a decade old. Can anyone bring clarity to Namibia's relative standing here?
- The List of countries and territories by population density article rounds to the nearest 1, and so orders incorrectly. According to those figures, Namibia has a lower density than Australia (I have not checked the others), but they are listed as equal, and so rounding errors could explain the discrepancies. Greenman (talk) 06:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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False Assumptions
edit"From 1904 to 1907, the Herero and the Namaqua took up arms against brutal German colonalism." That's false assumptions based on propaganda. Until 1904 the German mode of operation, was anything, but "brutal". Of course once warfare was the means for pacification (1904-1907) that toughened up --105.13.148.80 (talk) 10:39, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Do you know of a reliable source pointing this out? Batternut (talk) 22:22, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
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Coordinate error
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- You haven't explained what you're reporting as erroneous. If you think that there is an error, you'll need to give a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Herero genocide
editI really think the Herero genocide should be mentioned in the historical part of the introduction. Saying the German administration simply "began to develop infrastructure and farming" and not mentioning that the vast majority of Hereros were massacred in 4 years is bizarre, in my opinion. SaoiDunNeachdain (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- The "Herero Genocide" is a malicious propaganda lie, anyway. Just because some people claim it, doesn't make it true. --105.12.7.238 (talk) 15:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Portal:Namibia for deletion
editA discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Namibia is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Three articles, one country
editThere are articles on Namibia, South West Africa and German South West Africa. All three seem to cover the same material.
I know there is a way to propose merging them but I don't know how.
Tesspub (talk) 17:22, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Theoretically, they cover different entities existing at different periods of history. There is a way to propose merging them, but fixing unnecessary overlaps (outside of general background) may be a better option. CMD (talk) 02:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Failed Verification
editThe religious demography in the infobox is incorrectly cited. I searched through the cited source, the 2013 Demographic and Health Survey, and it does not contain the claimed religious demographic information. It has a very limited survey of numbers of each Christian denomination and "nones" and undifferentiated "others" but only for ages 15-49 and separately for males and females, which is not equivalent to a population-wide percent. The infobox needs to be changed. 2601:441:4400:1740:BD0C:9BDB:34CC:A5DB (talk) 19:44, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- That's not a failed verification. The survey states the percentages, just that it uses a non-representative population sample. I clarified this in the ref footnote, thanks for the heads up.
- Now, I'm not sure how this data is gained elsewhere. Surely it does not make sense to include children? And as for the people over 49, there are not so many in Namibia, see here. So yes, the data is not first class, but it does roughly confirm the distribution of religious denominations. --Pgallert (talk) 07:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Suggestion for section on science and technology
editHi, just a suggestion, many country articles have sections or subsections for 'science and technology', this could be a section on this article as well.
Thanks
Namibia's name was first used...
editI remember books dating to 1989 that use this name as the country's name. But this article says that the name Namibia began in 1990. Anything I should not confuse?? Georgia guy (talk) 18:38, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Georgia guy! The name is around since the early 1960s, see Mburumba Kerina#Early life and education. Since about then, independence activists and apartheid opponents used the name 'Namibia' (see for instance The Namibian#Prior to Namibian independence) while 'South West Africa' remained the name used by the establishment. Hope that helps, Pgallert (talk) 06:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of "Template:Largest cities of Namibia"
editTemplate:Largest cities of Namibia has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 11:14, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
Ediacaran fauna
editThe multitude of Ediacaran fossils from Namibia should be at least addressed in the article as I see them to be a vital part of the article to include this seeing as how Namibia is (mostly) well-known for its Ediacaran fossils.Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 06:42, 28 June 2022 (UTC)User:Rugoconites_Tenuirugosus
- Without looking into how due it is in this article, are the Namibian Ediacaran fossils notable enough for their own article? There doesn't seem to be one at the moment. CMD (talk) 07:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Probably not because the White Sea Assemblage and the Flinders Rangers fossils (along with the Charnwood Forest and Newfoundland) aren't really known for those fossils but (mostly) for other things.
- Pgallert does make a good point though, and you should look at his/her response to see further into what I mean (mainly talks about Namibia, but also counts for other locales so yeah. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 20:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I wouldn't think of Ediacaran fossils first when thinking about Namibia, but that's of course a matter of perspective. The Namibia article is created mostly as a synopsis of Namibia's main subtopics. Geology of Namibia hasn't yet been included but would be a possible candidate. The coverage of fossils and stratigraphic units of Namibia is currently weak, just check the sea of red links in the Geology article. Currently there isn't much to summarise. --Pgallert (talk) 09:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've since then added an image of Rangea to Geology of Namibia. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 20:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Government System
editWhy is namibia a semi presidential republic? Why is namibia opted not to chose parliamentary republic at the time of independence?2404:8000:1027:85F6:116B:228E:BC1E:341A (talk) 19:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Child Pornography?
editWhy does there need to be a photograph of young children in this article where there is obviously a naked young boy? Ernest S. B. Boston (talk) 13:30, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Which photo? DirkjanenBert (talk) 18:19, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- I guess it is this one, File:Himba_Woman_and_Family.JPG even though I cannot see pornography in it. However, this picture is not good anyway because the traditional attire of this family is incomplete. A delegation of Ovahimba elders requested that this picture be replaced at Himba people, which I did. Publishing a picture with incorrect attire is a potential embarrassment, that's why this picture should not be shown (I can expand the argument and document, if that is required).
- I do think it makes sense to include a picture of traditionally dressed people from this tribe in the article. Due to the properties of their traditional dress, every one will have someone scream "naked", though. All pictures currently on the Himba people page have been vetted by the community; maybe we best have a discussion which one to pick?
- --Pgallert (talk) 09:32, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- If we are going to stick with a horizontal image, the traditional leader and his grandchild seems to be the only one to show multiple generations like the current one. (A more extensive discussion of the photos should perhaps not take place under this discussion header.) CMD (talk) 09:46, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- It’s a bit prude and western to dismiss this as CP imo DirkjanenBert (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Namibia and the semi presidency
editWhy namibia is a semi presidential republic despite not being colonized by france which is know for having a legacy of semi presidential system? 125.164.20.28 (talk) 03:03, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- It was part of South Africa, which has a semi presidential system I think broski. And new countries sometimes choose a different government type than their former ruler’s. DirkjanenBert (talk) 21:34, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Claim Namib desert is oldest in world
editI note the article asserts the desert is the oldest in the world, however the referenced source says '..believed to be oldest in the world' and references a 1998 source i can't access. Can anyone find the primary source to confrim? 147.161.212.197 (talk) 01:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)