Talk:My Friend Irma

Cathy Lewis

Hi! This article states that Diana Lynn portrayed the character of Jane Stacy on the radio version of "My Friend Irma". According to episode logs, Cathy Lewis played this character on both the radio and television versions of the show (actually, only the first season of the two-season televison version = the character of Jane Stacy moves to Panama in season two and is replaced by a new character, Kay Foster, played by Mary Shipp). Diana Lynn played the role of Jane Stacy in both movie versions while Cathy Lewis continued the role on radio. I can see how this could happen since the movie versions are better known to most than the radio or television versions.

http://www.otrsite.com/logs/logm1039.htm Please check this out for the radio logs http://timstvshowcase.com/irma.html Please check this out for the television version Great article! BurnsU2 01:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Move?

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:09, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

My Friend Irma (radio-TV) → My Friend Irma –

• Unnecessary disambiguation. The radio-TV article is clearly the primary topic, as the film is based on the radio/TV show. And the disambiguation page is also unnecessary, as long as the two articles have hatnotes pointing to each other. Fortdj33 (talk) 18:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
• But page My Friend Irma is now a disambig page with 3 choices. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose Last month My Friend Irma (radio-TV) received 373 hits, while My Friend Irma (film) received 892 hits. So by that measure the radio/TV article is not the primary topic. Also, just because A is based B doesn't mean B is therefore primary. See for instance Midnight Cowboy and Midnight Cowboy (novel). Tassedethe (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Mary Shipp

Wbo? Why is she ONLY mentioned in a photo caption? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.23.193 (talk) 02:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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I am trying to log in, but did this edit because I forgot my password. k3vin

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Requested move 24 January 2019

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The result of the move request was: pages moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 01:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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• My Friend Irma (entertainment property) → My Friend Irma
• My Friend Irma → My Friend Irma (disambiguation)

– Disambiguation is unnecessary as this is an article about the franchise and there are no other articles outside the franchise which compete for the title. Per WP:NCTV#Media franchise and WP:NCFILM#Media franchise, it is more natural to have a franchise page at primary, since such a page also acts as a natural WP:CONCEPTDAB for the specific components of the franchise. -- Netoholic @ 23:09, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is basically a WP:2DAB situation with a "See also" containing a related third entry. Per the 2011 discussion (above) regarding the same subject, if there was to be a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it would be the 1949 film, not the radio-TV series.    Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
  • You're clearly misunderstanding - the My Friend Irma (entertainment property) article covers the entire franchise, not the radio or TV series alone. We have no independent article for either of those. Also, you've given no evidence to support the film being primary. In particular, the film as it is is already disambiguated and NOT primary. This RM only addresses that we have a minuscule disambiguation page in a place where we could just put a CONCEPTDAB instead which covers the entire franchise. Far more useful to readers. Additionally, "(entertainment property)" is not a dab term which is supported by either NCFILM or NCTV. This must be fixed. -- Netoholic @ 04:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

No misunderstanding, but I do agree that "(entertainment property)" is an unused as well as unwieldy qualifier. This article did, in fact, start out in March 2005 as a stand-alone entry bearing the main header My Friend Irma. It was almost entirely about the radio series, with the TV series, films and comics mentioned in five brief sentences at the end. The articles for My Friend Irma (film) and My Friend Irma Goes West were created in May 2006, while the radio article remained as the grandfathered WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.

In November 2008, the My Friend Irma primary topic was moved to My Friend Irma (radio), with My Friend Irma becoming a disambiguation page containing four entries: My Friend Irma (radio), My Friend Irma (film), a redlink for My Friend Irma (TV series) and "See also" for My Friend Irma Goes West.

In February 2009, My Friend Irma (radio) was moved to My Friend Irma (radio-TV) and the My Friend Irma (TV series) redlink was deleted from the dab page. As the years passed, details about the comic strip and comic book were added to the "(radio-TV)" article which, in September 2017, was moved to its present title My Friend Irma (entertainment property), but has still remained primarily about the radio series, with only brief mentions of the TV series, films and comics.

Under the present circumstances, I would, indeed, support a move of this article's qualifier to the familiar "(franchise)", as in My Friend Irma (franchise), but do not feel that it should be the primary topic when the most notable aspect of the franchise are the films which introduced Martin and Lewis, particularly the same-titled My Friend Irma (film).    Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 08:42, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support - two entries, for the same propertiy, one of which is an overview article and one a specific instance. In a situation like this, I also believe the franchise page should be the primary. If this doesn't pass, then this article should be moved to "(franchise)" (and if it does, a redirect should be created from this disambiguation). --Gonnym (talk) 12:00, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Gonnym.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:00, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom. bd2412 T 01:22, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
• Support per nom, though I see Roman Spinner's concerns. I think they are best addressed not by leaving the franchise at a disambiguated title, but by improving the franchise article as needed, which can occur immediately or after the move of the franchise article to the base name, as proposed. --В²C ☎ 01:24, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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