Talk:Minecraft – Volume Alpha

Proposed merge of Sweden (song) into Minecraft – Volume Alpha

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The result of this merge discussion was merge. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 22:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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Might not meet WP:NSONG. I'm not seeing much WP:SIGCOV. HS Insider might not be reliable per this discussion. The NAG source only mentions the song. And the Forbes source isn't reliable as it was made by a contributor, see WP:FORBESCON. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 16:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Pizzaplayer219, I would encourage you to read the actual wording in FORBESCON. Namely, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert. The writer of the Forbes source is a jury member of the Gamescom Awards, awarded at "the world's largest gaming event ([...] by exhibition space and number of visitors" (quote from Gamescom article). — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 14:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

good, but do we have enough reliable sources now? Blitzfan51 speak to the manager 14:31, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

I hadn't realized the HS Insider is written by a high-schooler, so I'd be in favor of turning this page into a redirect but preserving the edit history in case sigcov is produced/made in the future. I'd be surprised if such a notable song doesn't eventually get some coverage, but understand it not having SIGCOV at the moment, Blitzfan51. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 15:00, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Even if the writer of the Forbes source is an "expert", this article still doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV as the Forbes source doesn't address the song directly and in detail. Sure, the source covers Minecraft quite a bit, but Sweden is only covered in about 3 sentences. I'm still iffy on the Forbes source, especially since another editor had added a {{Better source needed}} tag with the same concerns. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 15:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Merge for the reasons mentioned.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 08:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Merge per failed WP:SIGCOV. Blitzfan51 speak to the manager 19:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

• Merge. I love an individual song article, but it doesn't reach the necessary standards. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:10, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Merge, since Sweden (C418 song) is also a redirect. Carlinal (talk) 18:50, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

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small correction

looking good! as i understand it, songs have singers, so these would be compositions :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Minecraft – Volume Alpha/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 22:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: SupremeLordBagel (talk · contribs) 07:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

• Hello! I'm Ben, and I'll be reviewing your article. Let me know if you have any questions during this process! SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 07:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  • First off, this article is really well-written and comprehensive! I'll go through a few of my suggestions, but generally this is a very high-quality article. Good job! SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 08:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
    • Copyvio marked as unlikely, no edit warring, sources are reliable.

Lead

• "...it is the first album to come from the game's soundtrack..." It might not be immediately clear to a first-time reader that the soundtrack was released in two parts, so maybe reword this to ...it is the first of two albums to come from the game's soundtrack....  Done
• Change "The simplistic nature of the albums music was caused by technical limitations..." to The simplistic nature of the album's music was caused by the technical limitations of....  Done
• "...who praised its usage in the game as well as a separate ambient album." This wording is a little unclear. This might be a bit better; ...who praised its usage in the game, as well as its merits as a standalone ambient work.  Done
• Change "Rosenfeld has considered Volume Alpha to be his most important work" to Rosenfeld described Volume Alpha as his most important work.  Done
• Rosenfeld is misspelt as "Rosenfield" at the beginning of the third paragraph.  Done
• "...and appeared on numerous charts..." The use of "numerous" (implying many) seems like subjective language. Change this to ...and appeared on multiple charts....  Done
• ...Volume Alpha was labeled certified gold by the RIAA... Remove "labeled", as it is not necessary in this sentence.  Done

Background

• Change "...he requested that Rosenfeld become the games sound designer." to ...he requested that Rosenfeld become the game's sound designer.  Done
• "...independent music artist Daniel Rosenfeld (known online as C418) was a small artist..." The two uses of "artist" seem a little redundant. Maybe change it to ...independent musician Daniel Rosenfeld.  Done

Production and composition

• ...encouraging the them to continue playing. Remove "the".  Done
• "The first three tracks from Rosenfeld to be added to Minecraft early in its development, and were referred to by Persson as "Calm" 1, 2, and 3 (known in Volume Alpha as "Minecraft", "Clark", and "Sweden")." There are a few grammatical errors in this sentence, and the wording is a little clunky. I would change this to The first three tracks Rosenfeld made for Minecraft, added early in development, were "Minecraft", "Clark" and "Sweden", known in the files as "Calm" 1, 2, and 3.  Done
• "...Rosenfeld organized the final renditions to where every track would naturally lead into the next, sometimes extending tracks to achieve this." A few grammatical errors here and slightly weird phrasing. Change this to ...Rosenfeld arranged the final renditions so that every track flowed naturally into the next, sometimes extending tracks to achieve this.  Done
• "His goal was to make it where Volume Alpha could be presented separately from Minecraft and listened to in one sitting while being interpreted as a single piece." Slightly messy wording again. Change this to He wanted Volume Alpha to be able to be listened to in one sitting and presented independently of Minecraft, while being interpreted as a single piece.  Done
• Instead, Rosenfeld opted to create more quiet, simplistic music, with his approach being inspired by Dwarf Fortress (2006), where he viewed the game's lower graphical quality that would otherwise be a turn-off to be backed up by guitar music that would intrigue the player, encouraging them to continue playing. This sentence is very lengthy - 49 words, in fact. Split this up into two sentences.  Done

Reception

• Looking at the Mojo review, I'm not sure what part of it could be described as "indifferent". In contrast, the review seems very positive. Maybe reword this.  Done
• Add a sentence to the beginning of the reception section, summarising the general critical consensus on the album (i.e. Volume Alpha received positive reviews from critics).  Done
• "He described it as an immersive album that "will wash over you," which made it what he viewed as one of the best ambient and electronic albums of 2011..." In the Sputnikmusic review, the writer doesn't directly state that the album's immersion is the characteristic that made it one of the best albums of the year in his eyes. We might also be able to avoid overquoting here as well if we reword this. Change this to He praised the album's immersion, and further described it as one of the best ambient and electronic albums of 2011, and a "stunning piece of ambient work".  Done
• Some critics believed Volume Alpha to be a good example of Rosenfeld's work, being some of his best. Looking at the sources attached to this claim, I don't see either of these things mentioned. This may constitute original research.  Done
• A few of the sentences in the third paragraph seem to give undue weight to Rosenfeld's work in general (i.e. Kellen found Volume Alpha to be a good demonstration of Rosenfeld's work, rather than specifically Volume Alpha. I would reword these.  Done

Legacy

• Change two instances of "labelled Certified Gold" to certified gold.  Done
• "The album has been considered by Rosenfeld to be..." This wording sounds a little clunky. Change this to Rosenfeld considered the album to be...  Done
• Change "pursuit" to "pursue", as it is used as a verb here.  Done

Criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

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