Talk:Maykop culture

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Hi I think it would be a good idea to include some sort of map for this article. Thanks Ben

Ben.madden (talk) 04:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be good to actually translate this article into actual English. As a reader, I have no idea what half these sentences are trying to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.46.165.26 (talk) 05:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Dears, section Recent discoveries needs dates and sources to be added.

Thanks, (George6996 19:02, 10 September 2015 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by George6996 (talk • contribs)

Horse breeding

Horse breeding at Maykop currently is sharply doubted. Thus, we urgently need some up-to-date sources, with modern calibrated, scholarly documented radiocarbon dates! Thanks HJJHolm (talk) 15:54, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

"Characteristically Indo-European"?

"Its inhumation practices were characteristically Indo-European, typically in a pit," - How does the writer know that? What and why were the graves "characteristically Indo-European"?? Up to now stones do not speak, and most of our graves have been, are, and will be in "pits". So, what is ie with a pit? Or what else does the writer mean? He is obviously not able to extract the essence of what he has segmentarily read somewhere .... 217.93.165.93 (talk) 15:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Plenty of cultures do not bury people in pits. Johnbod (talk) 15:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Plenty do. HJJHolm (talk) 08:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Mitochondrial DNA from Maykop

Some more work to do on the connection between Caucasus/Iran and the steppe: Eurogenes Blog, Mitochondrial DNA from Maykop + Wolfgang Haak on Near Eastern-related ancestry in Yamnaya. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

This blog is also interesting, connecting IE/Maykopf with Iran/Zargos Mountains. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

And an article on the relation with the Kura-Araxes culture; see Dieneke's Anthropology Blogspot. Interestingly, the Kura-Araxes culture may also be related to the Indus Valley Civilisation; see Mascarenhas et al. (2015), Genetic and Cultural Reconstruction of the Migration of an Ancient Lineage. And the geography and time-frame of the Kura-Araxes culture coincides with the split of R1a-Z282 and R1a-Z93... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:22, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Confused dates

If we date the MC between 3700-3000 BCE, the image must not date the bull figurine into the "III" millennium, but into the IV. Because it is not mine, I cannot change it myself. HJJHolm (talk) 08:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Origin

Similar finds north or south of the Caucasus in the first line prove trade connections and nothing else. To prove an origin, VERY exact chronologies are needed and have to be analyzed.HJJHolm (talk) 07:23, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Mislocated wagon grave

There was no wagon grave in Starokorsunskaya, which has been confused with the correct name Novokorsunskaya. Correct in GEJ (2004), TURECKIJ (2004, 194) and IVANOVA (2013, 104). Mislocated at Starokorsunskaya 2/18 in Кондрашов, so copied in TRIFONOV (2004), ANTHONY (2007, 295), KOHL (2007, 84), REINHOLD (2017). See Izbitser in BURMEISTER (2011, 223, FN97), where she is cited to assert three wheels; this was also confirmed by E. Izbitser in personal communication (Holm 2019, FN91). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.90.202.128 (talk) 08:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

khvalynsk kurgans found here?

On the section on a possible Pontic step origin the article names the Lower Mikhaylovka group and Kemi Oba culture, both are clearly too late to be the origin of this culture (arriving on the scene at a time the Maykop culture was already well established). But the article on the khvalynsk culture states that a large kurgan of this culture has been fould at Nalchik, which is less then 400 km to the east of Maykop, so this culture would seem to be both in its geographical and temporal position be a much more logical predecessor. As I'm not a specialist on this (just taking Wikipedia on its word) I do wonder why nobody has yet made this connection. Is this found wrongly attributed or is so recent the implications have not yet been reached a wider audience? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codiv (talk • contribs) 13:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

the beginning of bronze and what type of bronze?

for an archaeological article it is not satisfactory not to say something more precise about the beginning of bronze usage, the usage of bronze for which artefacts and the type of bronze. on a popular youtube documentary I heard: (early) arsenic bronze, used e.g. for axes and even a first sword... did that start already at the beginning of maykop, i.e. 3.700 or even 4.000 bc?? I would tend to say that we are still in the chalcolithic because arsenic bronze is actually copper with a mostly natural percentage of arsenic, not a deliberately produced alloy like tin-bronze. HilmarHansWerner (talk) 20:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)