Joshua Jonathan

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Needed guidance for source cited at Sukha page

@Joshua Jonathan I had a quick question. I was reading Sukha page and came across this section, where it mentions "Bodhi (1980)". I was going to add citation since there was no citation for that (Bodhi 1980 is already used on the page, which links to this). Was wondering if that website is considered good source to use. Asteramellus (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Asteramellus: yes, certainly. Bikkhu Bodhi has a somewhat conservative or tradjtional interpretation of the suttas, so it's good to attribute information to him ("according to ..."), but he's a respected author. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

yes thanks. I will add the citation. I was wondering if there is any alternate way to cite the book (including the page numbers) instead of using the website or you think using this website is fine? It actually does have lot of sources easily searchable. Asteramellus (talk) 10:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

@Asteramellus: the website is fine; Bodhi is respected. Thanissaro Bikkhu is a nice contrast; he's more liberal. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

More nuance?

Rig Veda uses the term Antigriha (अन्तिगृह) in hymn 10.95.4, as still a part of the extended family, where older people lived in ancient India, with an outwardly role. I guess it would not be entirely accurate to term the rishis, munis, and similar figures from the Rigvedic period as completely non-Vedic. Instead, describing them as 'outside or on the fringes of Brahmanical traditions' would be more appropriate. Many of them might very well have been former Vedic practitioners. Do let me know what you think. DangalOh (talk) 06:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I don’t think there was any group of non-Vedic Indo-Aryans waiting for the arrival of Vedic Indo-Aryans. There is a high probability that the "non-Vedic Indo-Aryans" were, or their forefathers were, former Vedic people. I believe we are overestimating the number of ascetics; no society can be built purely by wanderers and ascetics. One thing is clear: during Rigvedic times, those who left their homes for new adventures were fringe elements. I agree there’s no need to directly relate ascetic or sannyasi movements to the roots of any Brahmanical tradition; they might very well represent completely new ideas. The term itself isn’t entirely reflective. Whatever you deem fit, I will not argue. I just wanted to add a little nuance. Thank you. DangalOh (talk) 08:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@DangalOh: the Yoga-page? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Yup. Thank You :D DangalOh (talk) 12:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Another breakdown of discussion in 'Genesis creation narrative'

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that content you have written for 'Genesis creation narrative' has been deleted on grounds that it is part of a 'stealth POV pushing campaign' to have Wikipedia state that 'deity magic' is involved in the biblical texts (see recent edit). Even information about genre has been deleted. You are the only one who actually engaged with my arguments and tried to build consensus rather than just complain about evangelicals and delete content. Could you please review/evaluate the discussion? I would appreciate your advice for this situation in general too. I thought this was over but now I'm wondering if I have to request dispute resolution again. Thanks. Violoncello10104 (talk) 14:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@Violoncello10104: I will, but not today; but I will. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Broader attention useful at an AFD discussion

Hello JJ, although it's been a fairly long time since we've interacted, this message is a friendly request that you take a peek at the article on Hindu University of America, which is presently undergoing an Article-for-Deletion discussion HERE. So far there have only been 4 contributors. I think it could benefit from broader attention. As you've been much more active than me on WP in recent years, I suspect you could much more easily discern the appropriate ways to ensure the discussion gets the level of attention that it needs (the appropriate and balanced ways to get more community attention; feel free to just go ahead and invite in an appropriate way). Many thanks for whatever you can do/suggest! Best Regards --Presearch (talk) 01:18, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Blocked the editor, can you raise an SPI?

As I'm not a CU anymore, may be again but not for a while. Doug Weller talk 07:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I will; thanks. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:03, 30 September 2024 (UTC)