Talk:Match fixing
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August 2010 Pakistan fixing
editI think the note at the bottom of the page regarding the spot fixing scandal in 2010 should be updated. at no time was the match "halted" and these are allegations and investigation is on. some kind of disclaimer would be ok 115.242.126.178 (talk) 07:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Cleanup
editI think this page could use a cleanup, especially the giant wall of text at the start? Any ideas? My own thoughts include: Splitting sections by which country the event took place in, or by sport, or perhaps by sport, then by country? Also, I separating these into 2 groups, one where matches are fixed for gambling or other non-sporting reasons, and the ones where the team or player tanks for some kind of sporting advantage (eg when the New Zealand Cricket team performed a low run chase very, very slowly, which just happened to knock out their rivals, the Australian cricket team, from the competition. Macktheknifeau (talk) 00:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I also find this article very hard to read, not only because of the wall of text, but because it is extremely American-centric and assumes too much prior knowledge of sports. I have no idea what the NFL or NHL or anything is. It's obviously perfectly okay to use them as examples, but the audience needs to be clear what sport you are talking about. Some diagrams of the fixtures involved would be great, then it could be seen visually how the tournament structure works and why there's obvious incentive to cheat. Worth a thousand words, etc. GM Pink Elephant (talk) 13:24, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Black Sox
editSome of the comments on the Black Sox Scandal are flatly incorrect. Specifically, the article says:
- The effects of the Black Sox Scandal would lead to Major League Baseball adopting draconian rules prohibiting gambling which persist to this day.
The Black Sox scandal played a role in the establishment of the Commissioner's office, but had no impact on the rules against gambling. MLB had strict rules against gambling since the National League was founded, and there was no move to change them in the wake of the scandal. The use of "draconian" should also be avoided, as it doesn't represent a NPOV; "strict" or "zero tolerance" might be better terms. --Roger Moore 21:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I changed this, LouScheffer 05:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
NFL referees
editI removed the sentences related to potential fixing of NFL games by NFL referees as they appear to be the ravings of a disgruntled fan or gambler. The original section made four statements, three of which are ridiculous and the fourth was so lacking in information as to be misleading.
1. NFL referees made numerous errors favoring the Colts in the January 2006 playoff game between the Colts and Steelers. One error was made (on the fumbled interception). The league acknowledged the error the next day. It was an error, and may be evidence of fixing, but it was the only officiating error in the game that helped the Colts.
2. Walt Coleman errs in favor of the New England Patriots part I: the tuck rule. Walt Coleman correctly revered the play on the basis of the tuck rule. That is, he interpreted and applied the rule correctly. It is irrelevant whether one likes the tuck rule of think that it makes logical sense.
3. Walt Coleman errs in favor of the New England Patriots part II: the non calls on defensive pass interference in the first New England/Indy playoff game (AFC Championship, January 2004). Many agreed that these were bad calls, but they also reflected a recent officiating trend to "let the players play" in pass coverage situations. The league responded by directing the officials to enforce the rules more strictly the following season. Also note that the referee would not be the relevant official for multiple pass interference situations at a variety of places on the field.
4. David Boston's father officiates to help his son's team. This claim was made by a member of the Redskins (I forget his name). This point would make a worthy inclusion if all of the statements were included.
Tanking
editShould tanking be a different article? Tanking doesn't necessarily refer to "match fixing" or losing matches on purpose, it also refers to when a team does everything in it's power as far as team selection goes to prepare for next year including playing younger players, putting out senior players and giving them season ending operations earlier than needed. For example a player who is 18 in the same position as a better player who is 33 but his career is winding up, may be selected ahead of the senior player. If they were in finals/playoff contention the senior player would be selected. Just a thought. Jabso (talk) 08:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually I think the term "tanking" is culturally specific slang. I have never heard of it (I'm Canadian). I think the term should be changed in favor of something more neutral like "underperforming". What do you all think? Hazir (talk) 04:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Olympique Marseille
editI think Olympique 1993 scandal worth a mention in the article. They they suffered forced relegation to the second division, and also lost their 1992–93 Division 1 title and the right to play in the UEFA Champions League 1993-94 , the 1993 European Super Cup and the 1993 Intercontinental Cup. -NineInchRuiner (talk) 09:01, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Tim Donaghy
editThis article is not complete without some information regarding Tim Donaghy and the NBA.
- Already there. See "match fixing by referees". LouScheffer (talk) 23:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Removal
edit"The high salaries of some of today's professional athletes likely serves to insulate their leagues from player-instigated match fixing." Seems that most of the facts here prove this statement wrong.
2012 Olympics badminton controversy
editThis is more or less breaking news, but should the 2012 Olympics badminton controversy deserve a mention here?
Goldeneye0 (talk) 16:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like people have put it in. I would at least mention it in incidents, but doesn't really deserve its own section, which really is a rehash of the Better Playoff Chances section. Mateinsixtynine (talk) 17:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
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Split proposal
editThe article is very hard to follow. I suggest moving the content related to gambling ant match fixing to its own section and make this article focused on match fixing in general. In addition, the long list of incidents feels like something that could stand on its own Ole Markus With (talk) 14:31, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- Support: Makes sense to split. -- Whats new?(talk) 06:07, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Not a mention of tennis
editIt's an international scandal. There should be a section on it. Tony (talk) 11:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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Japan section
editThe Japan section features the following parapragh:
For example, wrestlers in jūryō (the second tier) desperately try to avoid finishing the tournament with a losing record (7–8 or worse) and exchange or buy the match result otherwise their salary would be nothing, literally 0 yen, with the participation wage of 150,000 yen every two months if they finish the tournament with a losing record, and their ranking would go down to makushita (third level) and only participate in seven matches, the lesser ranking from jūryō in which one can earn 1,036,000 yen monthly with some prizes and a full 15-match tournament.
Can something rewrite this so it actually makes some bloody sense? Because the only part I could decipher is that jūryō is the second level and makushita is the third level.DragonFury (talk) 16:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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