Talk:List of prime ministers of the United Kingdom
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Titles and Knighthoods
editI find it odd that there is no mention of former prime minsters' titles and knighthoods. Even if they were granted a title or knighthood after their tenure, there should be a footnote.
No mention of baron/baroness or sir/lady on their name. Is there a solution for this? StrawWord298944 (talk) 03:29, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- @StrawWord298944: Adding more and more to a list makes it even more unwieldy than it is already. Individuals' articles, all linked from the list, are the place for personal attributes to be recorded. Bazza (talk) 09:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Remove "Before the Kingdom of Great Britain" section
editSuggest removal of this section.
a) It is superfluous to this page intended to list Prime Ministers, given that neither the role of Prime Minister, nor the Kingdom of Great Britain, even existed before the union of Scotland and England in 1707.
b) It is inconsistent with the concise nature of similar lists of leaders of other countries.
c) It is unnecessary duplication to use this page to detail the history of the leaderships of the Kingdoms of Scotland and England prior to 1707 as this can easily be found on more appropriate pages elsewhere.
92.40.194.235 (talk) 00:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- I (mostly) agree with your proposal and reasoning. The first paragraph of the section you refer to should be removed. The second can be moved (and, if necessary, reworded) to the start of the 1707-1721 section as it contains some explanatory information (on the LHT and commissions) which applies to the 1707-1721 period; the section should be renamed "Before 1721". Bazza (talk) 10:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Liz Truss' tenure
editIt states that Liz Truss had 50 days in office as Prime Minister but I am certain it stated 49 days beforehand. I've calculated it and it is 49 days, can this be reinstated?! RyanPLB (talk) 22:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @RyanPLB: It depends on what you count. If you count the first partial day, when she assumed office, and the last partial day, on which she resigned, then there are 50 days or part-days; or 48 whole days. This has been discussed before for another article: Talk:List of prime ministers of the United Kingdom by length of tenure § Tenure days - inclusive or exclusive of partial days?. What number would you use if she had assumed office on one day and resigned the next? Bazza 7 (talk) 12:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Adding Rishi Sunak as a permanent image within this article's lead intro image gallery
editI think a new layout is needed for this article's lead intro image gallery. As the first British Asian prime minister, I believe this is a noteworthy inclusion. Caption to read something like the current ones: "Rishi Sunak was the first British Asian prime minister of the United Kingdom." Jamzze (talk) 15:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't disagree Sunak's premiership is noteworthy, however the gallery is now being attempted to be expanded to 6, rather than the traditional 4 which looked a lot cleaner.
- I'd say the general number of photos would need to be agreed on. If it's 4 - Walpole (as the first), Churchill (as the leader during later stages of WW2) and Thatcher (first female PM and major figure) have been the 3 staples of the gallery alongside the incumbent PM.
- I feel that 4-image set up works better than expanding it to 6. ScottishPolitico (talk) 13:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that 4 is best and agree with the combination you've chosen. — Czello (music) 14:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The first British prime minister of Indian descent was not Rishi Sunak but Lord Liverpool, whose grandmother Begum Johnson was a mixed-race Indian. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 13:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Henry Pelham's tenure
editHenry Pelham's term in office is given as 27th August 1743 to 6th March 1754, duration: 10 years 192 days.
Great Britain switched from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar in September 1752 - it went from 2nd Sept to 14th Sept, missing out 11 days. So, the duration in office should actually be 10 years 181 days, see Adoption of the Gregorian calendar Katrinabryce (talk) 17:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
New picture for Benjamin Disraeli?
editI suggest that Downey portrait of Disraeli (crop).jpg will be used for the picture of Disraeli. The picture that is now (Benjamin Disraeli by H Lenthall (cropped).jpg) is from the early 1860s while this picture is from 1878 and let's keep in mind that Disraeli was in office in 1868 and from 1874-1880 so i think that it is more accurate and plus the quality is better. Leikstjórinn (talk) 17:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Tenure is confusing
editToday, as of 24 August 2024, it states that Keir Starmer has had 51 days as Prime Minister. However, if you look on the Great Offices of State page, it states 49 days. He took a Great Office of State position the same day he became Prime Minister. Do we need to think about this and calibrate the tenure dates? RyanPLB (talk) 10:01, 24 August 2024 (UTC)