Talk:List of films based on Marvel Comics publications
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Werewolf by Night?
editHow about Werewolf by Night? Although its page says TV special but could also be considered a television film. Runtime 53 minutes. MoviePhan (talk) 17:52, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Television specials are on the List of television series based on Marvel Comics publications page, and IMO should stay there. ShyKen (talk) 18:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Continuity in casting
edit@user:AnthonyN090 It is noteworthy that there have been multiple cases where an actor has played the same character consistently across previously separate Marvel film continuities. These actors are strongly enough associated with their characters that their casting has persisted across multiple film series. I feel the table I added illustrates this clearly. Other articles about films based on comics characters, such as Batman in film have similar Recurring cast sections that include such tables. No specific reason was given for the revert of my changes, so I'd like to discuss whether or not such a table should be included. Swordofneutrality (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- This is not an "in film" article. Its simply a list of Marvel Comics and Marvel-related films. A table for actors is not appropriate here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:19, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- The table I implemented has a defined scope of only including actors reprising the same role across multiple, previously separate film series, so it matches the scope of a list of general Marvel film adaptations.
- The table is already used in List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films and X-Men (film series). We don't need the same table here. AnthonyN090 (talk) 14:52, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't the same table and wouldn't fit the scope of those articles; see above. Swordofneutrality (talk) 12:28, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- I literally just got done re-examining the List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films page section titled "Recurring cast and characters" and X-Men (film series) section titled "Recurring characters". Your edits were just a combined version of both. Why is that necessary? Is it too difficult for readers to read one at a time? We don't need repeated info. Your edits added nothing new to the information found at List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films#Recurring cast and characters and X-Men (film series)#Recurring characters. AnthonyN090 (talk) 21:34, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't the same table and wouldn't fit the scope of those articles; see above. Swordofneutrality (talk) 12:28, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
what about The Punisher (1989), starring Dolph Lundgren?
editIt had a theatrical release.--Dawud — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.37.181.113 (talk) 06:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Its in the 'Direct-to-video and television films' section. It didn't release in theatres in the US, and only had a limited run internationally. ShyKen (talk) 11:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
"Marvel film" listed at Redirects for discussion
editThe redirect Marvel film has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 7 § Marvel film until a consensus is reached. NotAGenious (talk) 12:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Red Sonja Missing / Argylle Misplaced
editFirstly although made by "Marv" Argylle is not Based on a Marvel Publication. Instead it's based on a book of the same name. Even if it's connected to kingsman in some fashion or is a spin off of the series. It's connection is a creation of Matthew Vaughn and not a pre-established connection.
Secondly the 1985 Film Red Sonja would be based on a marvel comic. Although she takes place is the Conan the Barbarian universe (which marvel published issues of even though they hadn't made the character) her character was a fabrication by marvels comic group. And she had a breif comic book run. The film also has no ties to any other conan movies to my knowledge other that Conan still being played by Arnold. But they circumvent this issue by only reffering to him as "Lord Callidor" thoughout the film.
TL;DR: Argylle isn't based on a marvel comic, and Red Sonja is a Marvel Comics Group Creation. Indominious (talk) 03:21, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Argyle isn't based on the book, the book was essentially just a marketing ploy for the film. In any case, I agree that its inclusion does seem a bit odd, but also by this logic, if Marvel were to create a film that's explicitly part of the MCU but is an original story that primarily consists of original characters (the A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer short fits this description) we wouldn't include it here, which wouldn't sit well with me. Argyle being a spinoff of Kingsman means it's connected to a franchise that's based on a Marvel comic, which means it is connected to a Marvel comic (albeit in a very obtuse, indirect way), and that's good enough for me. Going deeper than that and arguing the exact semantics of what it means to truly be based on a Marvel comic is not useful, IMO.
- Red Sonja's been discussed many times before, I'd suggest skimming through the archives, whether or not it should be included is not as simple as it may seem. ShyKen (talk) 05:14, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I want to point out that the opening titles of Red Sonja don't mention Marvel comics anywhere and neither do the closing credits, unlike Howard the Duck (film) who came out just one year later mentions Marvel comics in the opening titles. So I doubt Red Sonja film is produced by any license from Marvel, the film producers probably got the license from Robert E. Howard estate and probably asked to be able to do similar things with the character as Marvel did in the comics i.e transporting the character to Hyborian Age from 16th-century Ottoman Empire as in the original novel and use the alternative spelling of the name. I say this without knowing inside and out about the original license between Howard's estate and Marvel. With that said, the inclusion of Big Hero 6 could also be considered questionable for the same or similar token as the fundamentals of the characters were redesigned and changed from the original in various ways so they are fundamentally different from the original Comics. Still, no license agreement was ever needed because Disney bought Marvel in 2009. So I think the notes section should mention this and say these films are very loose based on the Marvel comics. DoctorHver (talk) 17:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe the article should be renamed "Films licensed from Marvel", because Red Sonja is obviously based on the comics: she gets the backstory of the comics and her costume is very similar to the contemporary (volume 2-3) Sonja design. "Based on" is quite vague, I could argue that even Conan the Destroyer was based on the comics. 80.98.191.91 (talk) 14:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- I want to point out that the opening titles of Red Sonja don't mention Marvel comics anywhere and neither do the closing credits, unlike Howard the Duck (film) who came out just one year later mentions Marvel comics in the opening titles. So I doubt Red Sonja film is produced by any license from Marvel, the film producers probably got the license from Robert E. Howard estate and probably asked to be able to do similar things with the character as Marvel did in the comics i.e transporting the character to Hyborian Age from 16th-century Ottoman Empire as in the original novel and use the alternative spelling of the name. I say this without knowing inside and out about the original license between Howard's estate and Marvel. With that said, the inclusion of Big Hero 6 could also be considered questionable for the same or similar token as the fundamentals of the characters were redesigned and changed from the original in various ways so they are fundamentally different from the original Comics. Still, no license agreement was ever needed because Disney bought Marvel in 2009. So I think the notes section should mention this and say these films are very loose based on the Marvel comics. DoctorHver (talk) 17:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)