Talk:List of best-selling game consoles

What happened to all the 100 million console bubbles and psp bubble?

Just curious as all of the consoles over 100 million (and the psp) had an image on the side with a small description so I am just curious as to what happened to them. 158.135.172.117 (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

The 100m console images were removed because they made a large gap between the text & the list in some browsers. Before that, I removed the PSP image because the PSP isn't really notable for any real achievement. Another one that was removed was for the Game Boy & Game Boy Color, but was because they are separate consoles, not notable individually. TavianCLirette (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Would the Game Boy really not be considered notable? It was the first console to reach 100 million plus established the modern handheld market Gemini.skywalker (talk) 02:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I thought so it was why i suggested its bubble originally. Also shouldn't there be one for the highest still selling console. Basically what i mean by that is in many charts if it is some sort of stat (like in sports) the highest active one gets a bubble saying they are the highest active one? 2601:2C4:C900:460:DF6:A3BE:3197:1FBC (talk) 05:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Gemini.skywalker, that sales figure is exactly what I’m getting at. The Game Boy console alone did not sell over 100 million units. That’s the figure for it combined with the Game Boy Color. It is the only figure Nintendo provided after the release of the Game Boy Color, but it does not make the exaggerated “fact” any more true or noteworthy.

Even still, I believe the 100 million mark is arbitrary. There are incredibly impactful systems that sold just under that mark. Besides, while systems like the Wii & PS4 are famed for their success, I believe their high place on the list is sufficient coverage for their notability.

However, Nintendo showed it sold over 64 million before the Game Boy Color released. If another source can be provided which says at that time, the Game Boy was the best-selling console of all, that along with its role in popularizing its market might be notable enough to warrant a picture. TavianCLirette (talk) 20:25, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

well you just answered the question as the best selling console of all time before the Gameboy was the NES which sold when it was all set and done 61 million meaning that 64 means the Gameboy had overtaken the number 1 spot. The only thing that might challenge that is where the ps1 was in sales but even then the Gameboy with its combined sales would push it over to the number one spot before the ps2 would eventually dethrone it.

Basically the number 1 spot would be 2600 NES (depending on your opinion there would be another in there but that depends on how people count game and watches), Gameboy and then Gameboy/Gameboy color (again ps1 might have done it though it is unlikely), and PS2. 2601:2C4:C900:460:4B9:729C:C24A:7D4B (talk) 20:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Sega Master System

How come Sega Master System and Sega Master System (Brazilian variants) are counted as separate systems when elsewhere on the list Game Boy & Game Boy Color get lumped together? Seems disingenuous. 2601:19C:5101:7E50:BC9D:4F7C:6735:4565 (talk) 13:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't believe anyone is trying to be "disingenuous". Some regulars discussed it late last year without any real strong feelings on it at Talk:List of best-selling game consoles/Archive 4#Sega console Brazilian variants. Personally, I just wasn't sure if they should be grouped because of the different manufacturers and timeframes involved. Another editor questioned if they were truly the same thing. A third editor thought they should be merged. Then discussion fizzled out.

If you wish to pursue it, it could be persuasive if you could prove that reliable sources commonly group the figures into one. If they do, maybe changed is warranted. If not, then we should probably keep it as is. Sergecross73 msg me 13:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

As for why the two Game Boys are combined, that's Nintendo's fault. As the note states, they only provided combined statistics. It's not us who combined them: The source did. -- ferret (talk) 13:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tectoy#:~:text=Tectoy%20continues%20to%20produce%20%22plug,3%20million%20Mega%20Drive%20variants.

this wiki article provides some figures: 8 million Brazilian Master System variants and 3 million Brazilian Mega Drive variants. I stumbled upon a random youtube video that is talking about the Sega Neptune being finally released but only in Brazil, and started reading on TecToy the Brazilian hardware manufacturer which has the Sega rights to produce all Sega consoles in Brazil. Its a real thing and facts must be included in any wiki article. We only need official sales numbers which the article I pasted apparently has already, yet I don’t know how updated those are. Maybe in a Brazilian database more numbers can be found.

Majesco and Atgames are two other official Sega console manufactures. If someone finds official sales numbers of these three companies then I think it could be summed up with the Sega hardware sales and stay true to the facts. WOWLWOWL 18:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

PS5 61.7m units Update

Can someone with editing rights on the article consider updating the PS5 figures to 61.7 million, as per Sony's most-recent financial report?

Source: https://www.thurrott.com/games/playstation/306772/total-playstation-5-sales-hit-61-7-million-units

Thanks 2A02:C7C:9249:3B00:E9DE:2D28:5ADF:FD2E (talk) 09:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

They do need to be updated, but with a better source. Sergecross73 msg me 11:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Should there be a cutoff for sales?

Right now, this page is less "List of best-selling game consoles" and more "List of game consoles by sales"; 1 million is such a low bar that most video game consoles, even commercial failures, can meet it. Would there be any merit to increasing the sales cutoff to something more like 5 or 10 million units? Toa Nidhiki05 19:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I have no objection to that. It'd trim out a couple of ones people always argue about while we're at it. Sergecross73 msg me 21:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Good point. Title of article is “best selling consoles”. So maybe the main table should only be like the top 10 or 20.

And in the spirit of keeping all the other classics maybe make another subsection with the “others”.

Kind of like the wiki articles pf best selling video games on any particular console. WOWLWOWL 17:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't see the point of removing the info and would object to such a removal. There are ones I'd remove as being inappropriate (like NES and SNES classics, as none of the other dedicated retro consoles are here, even ones that sold well like the Genesis Mini that would likely meet the 1 million threshold) or combined (like the Brazilian Sega systems should just be included in the main numbers as they are official versions of those systems, in citrate to the Dendy, which was unlicensed), but I see no benefit to readers to remove info that makes this a good one-stop reference for readers looking to compare across generations. oknazevad (talk) 02:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd support removing the Classics too. Sergecross73 msg me 03:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree with what you said. I like having the complete picture in one article.

When I said the word “classic” I didnt mean the classic minis, I meant to say all the other consoles in generals that even if they dont make it to a top 10 or 20 list they are still important for knowledge. WOWLWOWL 16:37, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

PSP sales

The official sony release says the psp has sold 76.4 million not 80-82 million. https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/ WOWLWOWL 20:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

76 million is where they stopped reporting individual PSP sales, but for a bit after that, they reported a combined PSP/Vita figure, likely to hide the poor sales of both platforms at the time. Factoring in those figures is what gets us to our 80ish estimate. Check the ref for the PSP and Vita for more context. Sergecross73 msg me 21:33, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok makes sense. Thank you. WOWLWOWL 16:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)