Talk:List of James Bond villains

Revising the introduction

I took a stab at rewriting the article's introductory paragraph. Please add, subtract, mulitply, or divide if needed! Foreignshore (talk) 18:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)Foreignshore

Blofeld/Diamonds Are Forever

An IP has repeatedly removed the description of Blofeld's apparent death in Diamonds Are Forever: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] & [6]. These edits have been reverted several times now. TedEdwards has asked the IP at his talk page why he keeps removing this information, but did not get a response. As I point out in this edit summary the extra information is relevant because i) the fate of the character is ambiguous in Diamonds Are Forever and ii) the character briefly reappears in For Your Eyes Only. It is very difficult to resolve this when the anonymous editor fails to give a rationale in edit summaries and fails to respond to a simple question on their talk page. The constant back-and-forth can't go on and the matter needs to be resolved here. If the anonymous editor does not provide us with a reason as to why the article is better served with less information then I will request page protection. Betty Logan (talk) 09:27, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

• The anonymous editore has continued with strange edits. In this edit the editor removes a principle villain and in this one he adds a henchman (which are not recorded in this list) with a description that is simply unintelligible. Meanwhile the editor has continued to not include edit summaries and ignore questions asked at their talk page. If there is any more disruption I am going to request page protection. Betty Logan (talk) 15:59, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I would report them to an admin. I've just given the IP a level 3 warning, which is the highest for disruptive editing, so if they edit once more like this, an admin will probably block them. If and after the IP is blocked, and edits under a different IP address, page protection would be the only viable solution. TedEdwards 17:42, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

@Betty Logan: I've reported them at WP:ANI#Disruptive editor at List of James Bond villains. TedEdwards 11:13, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Mr. White

I was thinking, instead of being a redirect to this page, what do we think aout making Mr. White (James Bond) a short article? The character has appeared in three different Eon films. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 05:21, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

With a Mind to Kill

Now that we've got the new 007 novel announced, should we put a placeholder table until the book comes out? 2407:7000:8DB6:3557:5CDF:7FE0:4DE3:8571 (talk) 03:34, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

GIVE SAFIN A PAGE!!!

Safin has not appeared in many movies, but we have given movie villains pages if they’ve appeared in one movie. They don’t have to be major villains like Blofeld to deserve a page. He’s good Chickenmonger (talk) 16:11, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Original villains from the Comics

I think we need to add the a new section dedicated for the villains from the comics. Namely the ones from the Jim Lawrence & Yaroslav Horak-era comic strips and the Dynamite Entertainment comic serials. The entry mentions that "Before adding any more characters to this article, please go to the talk page and explain why a particular character is a villain" - so I just need to reach concencus before I or any other wikipedian here starts to get busy. TrickShotFinn (talk) 05:20, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

General G dashed by boat propellers?

General G's fate in the novels section under From Russia With Love confirms he was dashed by boat propellers.

Its been a few months since I read the novels but I'm pretty sure he survives the events of the book, especially since he turns up in With a Mind to Kill.

I'm assuming this is some sort of error so should be amended but I just want to double check that I'm not missing something and Horowitz is just ignoring established canon, which would be odd. SpruceWillis10 (talk) 13:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

I've amended this to state that General G survives the events of From Russia With Love. SpruceWillis10 (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

On His Majesty's Secret Service

Have added a section for Charlie Higson's novel On His Majesty's Secret Service. I have yet to read the novel so do not know the exact details of Æthelstan of Wessex's plan and whether he survives the events of the book or not so if anyone else wishes to add these details please do so, otherwise I'll add the details myself once I get to the book. SpruceWillis10 (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Kim Sherwood's Double O Series

There's only been one novel released "Double or Nothing" of an expected trilogy but should Kim Sherwood's Double O series be featured in this article somewhere, perhaps under a new heading like the "Young Bond" section. My thoughts are yes but interested to reach consensus first. SpruceWillis10 (talk) 12:15, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Since Kim Sherwood's second novel has been announced and is releasing early next year I've gone and added a section for Double or Nothing under On His Majesty's Secret Service for now. I believe it should be under it's own Double O section but I'm doing this on my phone at the moment so can clean up later. SpruceWillis10 (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

I've now added a section for the Double O novels since the second will be releasing next year I figured it made sense. SpruceWillis10 (talk) 19:39, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Villains versus henchmen

Some editors have been removing characters on the grounds that they are "henchmen", not "villains". This is an irrelevant distinction for the purposes of this article. For example, "Red Grant" is a significant adversary in the novel "From Russia With Love", I would say a more significant character than Rosa Klebb. It is not important for the purposes of this article that Grant is following orders from Klebb. Otherwise we get absurdities like including "General Grubozaboyschikov", an insignificant character who gives the orders, and not including Grant.

The purported technical distinction between villains and henchmen is not relevant for this article. Wikipedia is aimed at the general reader, for whom Grant is a villain. This is backed up by the article lede, which currently says "The following is a list of primary antagonists in the James Bond novels and film series." Editors should use their judgment. For example, should Oddjob be included? I would say yes, he is a primary antagonist (second to Goldfinger). I think "Jaws" should definitely be included. cagliost (talk) 11:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)