Talk:List of EastEnders characters introduced in 2011

Eddie Moon

as eddie moon has been cast it says at the bottom that his children have yet to be cast shall we put that in there as a profile?--MayhemMario (talk) 16:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

You mean put in sections for his children? Well we don't know anything about them yet, not even their names. –anemoneprojectors– 17:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I've read spoilers saying he arrives onscreen 6 June, but it says 3 here. [1]Rain the 1 ^BAM 02:11, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

That says 6 June, but the source we have says 3 June. Also, This spoiler confirms it's 3 June. He is on screen before he arrives in Walford (the 6 June spoiler is titled "Eddie Moon arrives in Walford"). –anemoneprojectors– 09:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Eddie now has 18 references and I have more to add! Just saying ;-) –anemoneprojectors– 17:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I was wrong, the sources I had weren't worth adding :( –anemoneprojectors– 17:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

More sources?

could we use some more sources not just one on eddie moon? =)--MayhemMario (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

You mean find other sources that say the same thing? I don't see the point. You're just thinking of splitting him off. You need to stop obsessing about this so much. –anemoneprojectors– 16:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

i'm not obessing just want to know if we should just use 1 source for the whole article or not!--MayhemMario (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

If another source has some new information then add it but I don't see the point adding sources just for the sake of it. –anemoneprojectors– 23:35, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Rob Grayson

There seems to be a bit of back and forth today over whether Rob should be classed as a regular or recurring character. While, as discussed yesterday at the main character list, it's not a foolproof method of gauging productorial intent, Jody Latham is credited at the bottom of the character list amongst the recurring and guest artists. Frickative 19:16, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

He's been brought in for a specific storyline, he's more likely a "guest" character than anything else. –anemoneprojectors– 19:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

the rob grayosn article needs a lot of expansion. there has been TONS of reception sbou thsi storyline and TONS of news could anybody help me out?--MayhemMario (talk) 16:49, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I feel it should probably mostly be added to Whitney's article, she she's a main character and Rob is just in it for the short storyline. –anemoneprojectors– 19:56, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

But feel free to list sources here if you have them but are struggling to add them. –anemoneprojectors– 20:15, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

thanks ;)--MayhemMario (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

should eh be split off if not lets add a pcictrue--MayhemMario (talk) 17:21, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

No he shouldn't be split off and no he shouldn't have a picture. He's a minor character. –anemoneprojectors– 23:20, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

It's a bit soon to be splitting him off, he's only made a few appearances. - JuneGloom Talk 23:25, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Yep and I expect he won't be making many more appearances. He might have ten references but it's just stupid to split off a minor character who's only only appeared in a handful of episodes. –anemoneprojectors– 23:42, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

There's no need to be so obsessed with splitting characters off :L Remember, we split them after about 5 moths. GSorby ^{Chat with Me!} 23:47, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I have the same deal with a Neighbours character. She has a lot of info and refs, but she barely appeared (or spoke for that matter). - JuneGloom Talk 23:50, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

We did agree 6 months but people have been very eager and discussions have happened sooner. But it's only if they're notable enough (i.e. have references). That's why we haven't split Kim Fox yet (or did we?). –anemoneprojectors– 00:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

1. kim fox asnt been split off =( and 2. i only said that as his development is quite a lot being involved in a major streoyline. I dont think his character should have hisown page but he could at least have a picture?!--MayhemMario (talk) 12:04, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

His development is more about the storyline rather than the charcter. The storyline is more notable than the character. I don't think he should have a picture. If anyone is having a picture in the 2011 page it should be the main characters Ashley, Lydia and Eddie. –anemoneprojectors– 12:17, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

yes i agree with you there but we are alloweed to add pictures right? I just think with all the reception of the storyline there are TONS more links, it will start to look messy with all this.--MayhemMario (talk) 12:19, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

well done for the image GSorby! Oh and by the way Ashley is onyl apparing for five episodes so he probably wont have a picture.--MayhemMario (talk) 12:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Stop posting unreliably sourced spoilers! If he's a minor character, why would they make a big announcement about him? –anemoneprojectors– 19:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

And no we're not allowed to add images. Read WP:NFLISTS. –anemoneprojectors– 19:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

well actually if you hadnt noticed on his ARTICLE it says tat he is only apeparing in 5 episdoes so ha! Oh and if you hadnt noticed there is a image on this article already =)--MayhemMario (talk) 19:53, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I just realised that, sorry. Doesn't mean he won't be appearing in more though :-) and the image was added by GSorby during this discussion! But we're not allowed to add non-free images to lists! Read WP:NFLISTS]. The 2010 list should really have no images. –anemoneprojectors– 20:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I really dont get why we cant add images to articles to be honest what harm is there? Does that mean we have got to delet the image of Rob,Michael,Yusef,Grace and Connor? Il read what yuo said hopew it tells me ABOUT THISSTUPID RULE!MayhemMario (talk) 20:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

oh. just read it. not that stupid......MayhemMario (talk) 20:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

This is why the images were removed from all the other years (and free images added where available). I don't know why 2010 was left. But we're leaving them while we can get away with it. –anemoneprojectors– 20:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

On my userpage i have done a sandbox edit off Rob Grayson article. Feel free to add refs if yuo want or correct my mistakes =)--MayhemMario (talk) 20:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

look's like he's returnign i added all my stuff from my sandbox it looks good now its got 18 refs! MayhemMario (talk) 11:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Any reasoning behind 'Ada Fox'

is there actually any reasonign behind th ada fox vandalism or was it just vandalism?--MayhemMario (talk) 18:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism for no reason –anemoneprojectors– 18:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Cora Source

• Reception or characterisation, whichever really - [2]Rain the 1 ^BAM 13:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Added :) –anemoneprojectors– 19:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Matt Willis

Nothing official has been confirmed but I wanted to post this here so we don't lose it when the casting is announced - whether Matt Willis gets the part or not. Matt Willis is being lined up for EastEnders –anemoneprojectors– 08:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

And a second source (reporting on the first) –anemoneprojectors– 09:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Well he didn't get the part, and we can't add this info unless we find out which brother he was auditioning for. Probably Anthony, I reckon. –anemoneprojectors– 23:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

In the casting couldn't you say that he was screen tested to play a brother, their stories are from the same mould - like based on the info we have their creation and casting is directly linked.Rain the 1 ^BAM 23:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Well I'd rather add it to the right brother, I'm hoping we'll find out at some point. –anemoneprojectors– 00:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Could have been for both.. we just don't know. But yeah, he will probably tell all sometime soon. Celebs can never keep their mouth shut.Rain the 1 ^BAM 00:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

lol! unlikely it was both though. –anemoneprojectors– 00:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Lydia

Do the non-free images meet the NFCC? I'm not sure we really need two fair-use images to prove that she briefly had a different head :) Frickative 21:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I did mention this on User talk:MayhemMario#Lydia Simmonds. I agree we don't need the image of Tyzack. –anemoneprojectors– 21:55, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Should we add 14 June 2011 as a second "last" date with (voiceover) next to it? Chasen wasn't credited for it though. –anemoneprojectors– 01:14, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Even though she was not credited, she Chasen was in the episode in some form. So I think it should be added. (Personally I thought it was a tacky moment..)Rain the 1 ^BAM 02:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

I haven't seen the whole episode yet, got to catch up on it before tonight's! I caught Janine reading the letter though. –anemoneprojectors– 12:58, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

AP, what you've done with the dates dates perfect. I agree with that GSorby - Talk! 13:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh good. I've seen the episode now :-) –anemoneprojectors– 16:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

ROB

HI. ROB NEEDS HIS OWN ARTICLE PRONTO..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.63.55 (talk) 11:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Um... we have discussed this.... MayhemMario (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Rob is just a minor charater in a HUGE storyline. I personally have made a article in my sandbox and it looks good but like AP has said (Anemone projectors) we dont really need it. MayhemMario (talk) 11:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi MayhemMario, dont really care how it is done. JUST DO IT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.63.55 (talk) 11:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. I cannot just go ahead and make a article you have to discuss it first. I say no to this. Why dont you make the article. AND SIGN YUOR POSTS!!! MayhemMario (talk) 11:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay maybe he dont need a article but add a picture at least! People these days..... 92.19.63.55 (talk) 11:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC) <-- HAPPY NOW!

He's already got one. Look. (you do this by opening your eyes.) Though we not really allowed images read WP:NFLISTS. MayhemMario (talk) 11:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks for ALL the help. Really. No Joke. Ha. Ha. Ha. 92.19.63.55 (talk) 11:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure. :D MayhemMario (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

lol Mario I guess you no longer need our help. –anemoneprojectors– 12:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

what do yuo mean? MayhemMario (talk) 12:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

You were asking for us to comment here but you seem to have sorted it yourself. –anemoneprojectors– 12:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Martina and Shenice

Seeing as Shenice is coming back and Martina isn't, should we split them? We would probably have to move Martina into "others" though because we only have real-world information for Shenice. Although there are sources for Martina, they only really back up the plot, the actor's name and the fact the character existed. –anemoneprojectors– 20:39, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I keep trying to do it, but I always get lost splitting the info-.-! Yes that would be good AP :-) GSorby - Talk! 20:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh right! Martina for "others" then? –anemoneprojectors– 22:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Yep, Martina for others :) GSorby - Talk! 22:36, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thing is, the storylines are tricky to split lol –anemoneprojectors– 22:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Sources

• Comerford, Mary (21 June 2011). "Tony Discipline". TV Choice. H Bauer Publishing. Retrieved 21 June 2011.
• "EastEnders' Tony gives up crabs for cockles". What's on TV. IPC Media. 21 June 2011. Retrieved 21 June 2011. Frickative 15:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

He did an interview in DS as well, I added some info but I think there was more. I have limited internet access right now though. –anemoneprojectors– 13:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Poppy return date

I don't think this is mentioned, she's back on 30 June http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012474p can someone add this citing the episode? I don't have time today. if nobody does it I'll do it tomorrow if I remember! thanks –anemoneprojectors– 15:27, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

 DoneGSorby - Talk! 20:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. –anemoneprojectors– 10:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Shameem

Should we move her back to others? Her source isn't really real-world info, is it? –anemoneprojectors– 13:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Splitting

If a character gets as much coverage as Eddie has done, I think it should have its own page regardless of duration, so I think Eddie Moon should be split. While some require discussion, i think he is a no-brainer.GunGagdin^Moan 15:15, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes and No. Some of the info, on the article at the moment is not meant to be where it is, but yes I agree now, i think he should be split off. We had a discussion on this hereMayhemMario 16:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I wish he was split off. He a decent character with a lot of OOU info. GSorby - Talk! 22:57, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

AP is working on Eddie's article in his userspace, so I think you should wait until he comments/gets his internet sorted before splitting him off. - JuneGloom Talk 12:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes I have a draft in my userspace, I think it's pretty complete unless things have been added in the last few days. Shall I move it across in the next 50 minutes (that's how long I have left at the library right now)? –anemoneprojectors– 13:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

And nothing has changed since then, shall I do it? I have 44 mins. Otherwise it'll be tomorrow! –anemoneprojectors– 13:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Do it! You've got the support of three other project members above. - JuneGloom Talk 13:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh and I agree.. Split it off!!Rain the 1 ^BAM 13:12, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok done! with 28 mins to spare ;) –anemoneprojectors– 13:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay as Gungadin said 'If a character gets as much coverage as Eddie has done, I think it should have its own page regardless of duration, so I think Eddie Moon should be split.' Rob Grayson should be split. He's got 25 sources with 2 more to add (A.T.M).  Done What do you think? I need to do the lead.MayhemMario 15:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Heres the link User:MayhemMario/sandbox:Rob Grayson.MayhemMario 15:08, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Added more. Got 30 refs now.MayhemMario 15:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd say no to splitting as he's only been in a few episodes. - JuneGloom Talk 14:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Well he is obviously notable. After he departs again, if the storyline turns out to be as big as it as said to be.. then I think it should. Only then mind.RaintheOne ^BAM 15:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

No, no, no! Rob is only a guest character. 10000% AGAINST this! GSorby - Talk! 17:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree, he's a minor character and it helps bulk up the list to keep him there. –anemoneprojectors– 12:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm late, but I definitely agree with Eddie having been split off :). Mario, have you considered the possibility of turning your Rob draft into a storyline article? You've done a great job bringing all the sources together, but a lot of the text (I'd say the vast majority, in fact) is about the storyline generally, rather than Rob specifically. If it was a storyline article, you could also incorporate everything petinent from EastEnders Revealed: "Whitney's Story". Frickative 21:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes I think that's a great idea, I did think using "Whitney's Story" to write a storyline article would be an excellent idea. –anemoneprojectors– 09:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, good idea, i'll work on it. Would Rob be part of that article, or would he be a seperate part on the list. And what would it be called? MayhemMario 10:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Poppy Meadow

Hi everyone. I moved Poppy to regular as she now has her own profile on the BBC website which is located here. They don't usually make profiles for characters that aren't staying, and it seems she's in every episode that Jodie's in in the upcoming credits. Thanks, GSorby - Talk! 09:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

If she were a regualr, they normally announce them, but she is anyway. Look here at the script peek and you'll see she is definetly one. MayhemMario 10:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

They don't announce it if a minor character becomes a regular. when we heard of her return it was implied she would only be in a few episodes again. She could be a recurring character but with a profile on the website we can list her as a regular, I suppose. It just doesn't feel right to just now, even if it is right to. –anemoneprojectors– 10:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but shes appearing in September, its just if Babbington hadnt announced the characters return, then no one would have known she was returning. MayhemMario 10:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, we said the best indicator we would use is the website, and she has a profile and as you say she's appearing in september. And her profile says she now lives in Albert Square... though i'm not so sure about that one. –anemoneprojectors– 10:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Not really that sure what BBC are on. Poppy said in the programm she was from Sheppards Bush but now.... MayhemMario 10:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Marc Zammit - Craig

Although CastingCallPro still says that Zammit will appear as Craig, this still hasn't come about and he's not in upcoming credits yet. Should we remove him until he is, as it's possible his scenes may have been cut or something. I'm not sure how long he's been listed for now but it seems long enough... –anemoneprojectors– 11:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Now that we have Craig Moon joining, it makes me think that this Craig is even less likely. –anemoneprojectors– 11:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I've now removed him, seeing as nobody responded. –anemoneprojectors– 12:47, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Faith Olubunmi

How shall we deal with Faith for the time being? She should be added here but will have two separate list entries, until such time she can be split. Currently, she redirects to the E20 characters list. –anemoneprojectors– 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Well will she have her own entry? I see that most EE characters have to be built up quite a bit before splitting - yet the E20 characters who are not that notable - all get articles. .. She could be listed at both, but this entry would have most of the info - with a main entry link directing here from E20.RaintheOne ^BAM 12:54, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I have never watched E20 or read any of the articles on here, but if she is due to be a permanent EE character, then her main list entry should be here.GunGagdin^Moan 13:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

That's what we did for Fatboy, Zsa Zsa and Leon after we found out they were coming into EastEnders, so I think that's what we should do for Faith. At the moment, all her info is on the E20 list and there's nothing here. But what goes on in E20 will stay on the E20 list. Look at how we've dealt with Grace as well, same as that I guess. I did want all E20 characters to have articles so they could be GAs and I could create a GT for E20, that's why I've split them all off so far, but I won't do the series 3 ones if there's no need, they can stay on the list :) –anemoneprojectors– 13:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

This interview says the actress has finished filming for EE presently. So unless we hear otherwise, should she be down as departing? [3]GunGagdin^Moan 13:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I thought about listing her as departing last night when I moved her to guest cast. So I think she should.RaintheOne ^BAM 16:05, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I suppose it depends what happens after E20. I know her being kicked out of Grace's made sense to get her squatting in E20 but then we don't know after that. I'm sure we'll find out. Shall we leave it for now? Seems odd having her in EE just for a few eps to get her into E20 when you're supposed to be able to watch one without needing to watch the other...... –anemoneprojectors– 13:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok, you're the expert on E20, so will leave it to you. I have never seen an episode of it, but this all seems like Deja Vu with Shirley's niece etc with the blue streak of hair (I cant remember her name). I wish they'd stop doing these street characters for E20. I find them deathly dull and they never seem to work out.GunGagdin^Moan 14:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I think we should wait and see what happens when this series of E20 is over, basically. Or wait for upcoming EastEnders credits towards the end of E20. –anemoneprojectors– 13:17, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Others needing updating

Can someone help out here. I don't recall seeing Paul in a second episode, also I don't recall seeing Hannah Gray, Shanessa or Andy at all. I also don't remembe Det Frank Merrill. I know Philip Granger QC and Mrs Bartlett were involved in Ronnie's trial but I don't remember who was on what side. Can anyone help update these people. Thanks! –anemoneprojectors– 11:34, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I remembered that Andy was a man who offered Rainie drugs, but still need help on the others! –anemoneprojectors– 13:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

86.158.129.202 appears to of filled in some gaps. - JuneGloom Talk 17:42, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Great stuff, 86.158.129.202 –anemoneprojectors– 11:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The only thing we didn't get was Paul being in a second episode. Doesn't make sense that he would have been but he's credited. –anemoneprojectors– 12:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

He wasnt in it. :o MayhemMario 15:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

So why was he credited? –anemoneprojectors– 13:24, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

DC Towers needs updating. I think two different police people spoke to Whitney, so not sure which one, unless I'm being mistaken. –anemoneprojectors– 14:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Where is the person who interviewed Ian Beale about Mandy Salter and the woman who stopped Ian on the road whilst he was looking for Mandy? MayhemMario 15:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

No reply since last, DR ARNOTT needs updating, and im sure Gordon Baggs wife was named, so that could be an uncredited. MayhemMario 17:39, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Was DC Towers the person who interviewed Ian? It was the episode after Mandy's return. The undercover policewoman who stopped Ian when he was looking for Mandy wasn't credited. Dr Arnott may have been someone who spoke to Syed and Christian when they found Zainab passed out. It was the same episode, and I just put in my notes that a "male nurse" spoke to them, so could have been a doctor. –anemoneprojectors– 13:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Tony and Matt on Loose Women

I just heard that they have been on there today. The repeat is on atm and they are chatting about the new moons apparently.RaintheOne ^BAM 16:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Aww that's a shame, I was out yesterday all day! Would have been good to see that. I'm sure it'll be available online. Sometimes Digital Spy reports on TV interviews if there's something good. –anemoneprojectors– 12:31, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Rose

I've noticed she is just credited as 'Rose' in the credits, which makes me think she isn't a Cotton after all. - JuneGloom Talk 19:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I hate to get involved, but how would she be a Cotton? It's Dot's first married name, no? If her surname is being concealed, surely it *being* Cotton would be the surprise. U-Mos (talk) 21:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Dot's article states that Dot is nee Colwell so I would've thought that Rose was the same. Unless Rose married Charlie?--5 albert square (talk) 21:57, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

More reliable sources from the Radio Times: just Rose on Friday, Rose Cotton on Monday. So I guess the secret will out. U-Mos (talk) 22:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Dot's profile on the BBC said Rose was a Cotton, which is where her surname came from. I guess they revealed the secret early. It might be worth archiving that Radio Times ref. So, it looks like Charlie married Dot, Rose and Joan Leggett. Bad man. - JuneGloom Talk 22:46, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

We already have credits that name her as Rose Cotton. I think this has been discussed somewhere else. But they did say on This Morning that a secret would be revlealed. I think it's silly having him marry Rose when he married Joan Leggett. –anemoneprojectors– 15:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Source for Lee to move out of "others"

I’ve landed a part in EastEnders...weeks after leaving drama school. –anemoneprojectors– 14:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Go for it. GSorby – Ping! 18:39, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't have time! Also, we need to add Faith Olubunmi, though we don't have loads of info yet, but we can get the info from the E20 characters page. –anemoneprojectors– 13:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

There is this one for faith, lots of info and a debut episode date - [4]RaintheOne ^BAM 00:54, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Well I added Faith's section and changed the redirect. So if someone can do the work that'll be great. Or I will next time, if I can find time! –anemoneprojectors– 10:54, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Cora's husband

Should we put Bill or William, as he was named as William last night? Just wondering. –anemoneprojectors– 14:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I think we should put William "Bill" Cross? Hmm... :) MayhemMario 15:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, that glass said Bill Cross, so maybe that's what he was commonly known as. GSorby – Ping! 16:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Tricky one, how does "common name" work for unseen characters? He's been mentioned twice - once in writing as Bill and once spoken as William. (or has he been mentioned by name other times?) Maybe put William "Bill" then. –anemoneprojectors– 13:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Agree with AP. MayhemMario 13:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Disagree, I think Bill or William, anything but William "Bill" GSorby – Ping! 16:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Duncan

His name is actually Duncan Wilkins. I'll look for a link to the episode. --82.10.203.103 (talk) 21:31, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

• Aha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSHxnJAv_Qo found it! --82.10.203.103 (talk) 21:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

It was Willis, not Wilkins –anemoneprojectors– 14:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

It was Wilkins. Michael Moon introducted him in his first episode as Wilkins, and when Ben was looking at his profile on "MatesGate" after Duncan left, it also said Wilkins. The credits were wrong. 81.152.34.202 (talk) 15:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but the credits were right. –anemoneprojectors– 15:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

The credits were wrong. Surely the content of the episodes (the spoken line from Michael calling him Wilkins as well as the visual on the MatesGate profile) means more than a mistake someone made on the credits? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:03, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, we shouldn't change it but we could mention the discrepancy. Why would they get the credits wrong? –anemoneprojectors– 13:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

They consistently get the credits wrong, leaving people off and having people on there who didn't appear in the episode. There's inconsistencies with "Fat Boy" and "Fatboy" as well. 81.152.34.202 (talk) 23:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

They always credit him as "Fat Boy" and it's only very rare that they credit someone who didn't appear. –anemoneprojectors– 14:20, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Andrew Cotton

Andrew Cotton - Is he deffinitly not becoming a regular? Shame if not I would love to see Heather have a love interest, they had chemistry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.225.59 (talk) 21:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

nope, Andrew's gone --82.10.203.103 (talk) 22:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Anthony And Tyler

shouldn't they have pges i mean the are regular characters — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.89.239 (talk) 12:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I dont know the exact criteria, but if they have at least 15-20 reliable sources (not dates), reception and the backing of some of the WP:EE members, then yes. MayhemMario 13:22, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I dont think 15-20 reliable refs is accurate to say. So long as the characters have received significant coverage in secondary sources, then they can have their own page, but only if someone is willing to write character creation, development and possibly reception sections. There is no rule to say that a standalone article needs 15-20 refs. Under five is even fine, so long as the content stands alone.GunGagdin^Moan

For now I don't think they should have separate articles, but if someone could expand them, then it probably would be good to split them then. –anemoneprojectors– 13:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm working on my own draft for Anthony here if anyone's interested. GSorby – Ping! 13:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

That looks pretty good to me. –anemoneprojectors– 13:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes it looks good, I agree. It's just the lead was difficult to do, as the character has so little storylines, I think at the end of the day we have got to think, If we took away the storyline's would the article be any good? Which i swear someone has said before (Gungadin/Frickaitve), but Im not against havign the article split. MayhemMario 19:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Mark

In last week's Inside Soap there was a small section about Mark and how they thought he could be one the viewers "love to hate". Anyone want to add this? –anemoneprojectors– 13:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Spencer Moon

i think spencer moon should be added to other relatives on anthonys, tylers and craigs article biologically there still related and also shouldn't he be added as an step uncle on tommys article to, and finally you should do this because some one did it on spencers article 82.0.88.75 (talk) 11:36, 25 October 2011 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd82.0.88.75 (talk) 11:36, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

No. We only add relatives that actually share storylines with the characters. Spencer was long gone before the Moon Family arrived (i.e. Craig, Eddie, Anthony, Tyler and Michael). It was incorrect to add it to Spencer's article. GSorby – Ping! 12:59, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

how come they are related, even thuogh they don't share story lines 86.25.244.114 (talk) 14:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd86.25.244.114 (talk) 14:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The problem is, after so many affairs, marriages and births, so many characters could be seen to be related in some way to others. If we were to list ALL relations of characters, the lists would become endless! (Liam Butcher is the prime example of this, he is practically related to everyone in some way in EE at the moment apart from the Masoods!) So to make things easier to read, we only list close relatives who actually share interaction with a character. Bleaney (talk) 18:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh right i see, oh btw do you know why barely any people have edited these characters like tyler moon and norman simmons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.244.220 (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

As EastEnders is on 4 times a week, there is always a lot of editing to do! I have recently edited the storylines of both Tyler and Norman, and believe they are now up to date. Bleaney (talk) 21:17, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Okay cool, i think Tyler Moon should have an article hes been in longer than anthony, and anthony has an article, but any thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericdeaththe2nd (talk • contribs) 17:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry. I'll finish up my draft and move it over. GSorby – Ping! 19:00, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks Ericdeaththe2nd (talk) 15:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)ericdeaththe2ndEricdeaththe2nd (talk) 15:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Bev Gregory?

Bev Gregory was the social worker who granted Jack custody of Amy on 4 November. On 8 November, Roxy was supervised by a social worker when Christian was round. Was this also Bev Gregory? –anemoneprojectors– 14:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

No this was a different person :) GSorby – Ping! 15:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok good, we don't have to change her dates :) –anemoneprojectors– 14:08, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Rose's names

I didn't see last night's episode so I assume the addition of these names is correct. However, is it right to add them, when the character has not been known by them during the series or been credited with them? –anemoneprojectors– 14:24, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Again I wanted to ask about this. Was Rose born Taylor or did she marry a Taylor? Some changes have been made so say her brothers are called Taylor, but indicates she was born Colwell. Can this be clarified? –anemoneprojectors– 14:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I can't find any reference outside Wikipedia or a Wikia copy of this article, that mentions her brothers being called Taylor. The implication would be that Dot Cotton's mother remarried and the two boys were her and Rose's half-brothers, but I don't know where that comes from. It's not mentioned on the Dot Cotton article.--86.178.207.94 (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I believe any mentions to Dot's siblings outside of Rose were from one of the Hugh Miller novels that Trampikey added many years ago. This is probably where the surname Colwell came from too. I think we should start removing this information as non-canon, or at least state where the info comes from. As for Rose's other names, I would leave them out.GunGagdin^Moan 01:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I think the Colwell stuff is a bit dubious, and could be removed. Rose was definitely called Taylor and Beauchamp as shown on screen, but she's never been known by these names in the show (other than when Dot denies Rose's marriage to Charlie and calls her Rose Taylor). If we remove these names, we'd probably have to do it for all other characters who had a previous name that they weren't actually called in the show, like Tanya Cross, Sharon Stretton, Dot Colwell, Bianca Branning, etc. –anemoneprojectors– 10:00, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Rose has been referred to as both Colwell and Taylor - in her first week of episodes she called herself and Dot "the Colwell girls", but since then Dot has said acuple of times that her maiden name was Taylor. I'd go for Taylor, as she is Dot's half sister (same mother, different father). - Trampikey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.27.244.71 (talk) 23:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I think I remember that. So it seems she was born Rose Taylor after her father, but maybe she was known as Rose Colwell due to her mother's name being Colwell. Then she married a Beauchamp before marrying Charlie Cotton? But I'd still be up for removing them completely, as she wasn't "born" becauase she's fictional, and the only name she's had in the series is Rose Cotton. –anemoneprojectors– 14:11, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Is Rose leaving?

Her infobox suggests she is departing, yet no confirmation is given. Reli source (talk) 22:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

No idea why someone said she was, but someone has been adding all sorts, like Ben leaving, Queenie Trott returning. All unconfirmed. It's been reverted now. –anemoneprojectors– 12:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

June Brown says so - [5]Rain the 1 19:19, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm but she doesnt say if its permanent or just a little break. Bleaney (talk) 21:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Well it is the best you will get for now - the problem is that IP's will not let this one drop - and there is atleast something to go off. Hopefully someone reports on it in more detail.Rain the 1 23:00, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Brown said "Now she's away too." That's quite ambiguous. But where are Rose and Andrew lately anyway? –anemoneprojectors– 10:36, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't remember who it was, but one of the characters said Andrew was back in Southend. - JuneGloom Talk 14:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

It was Shirley but Grover said he's in it for at least another year. George^Ping! 14:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

He did say that, and in my opinion, it wouldn't make sense for Rose to leave if Andrew is staying. Perhaps they're both off screen for a little while, and June Brown just meant that. –anemoneprojectors– 13:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Jimmie Broome

Does any one know the date of Jimmie Broome's last credited appearance in an episode? I want to add this date to the character's infobox as a hidden comment. Bleaney (talk) 22:08, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

26 October. His storyline hasn't yet been updated for that episode, if it needs to be. –anemoneprojectors– 22:33, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, done. Bleaney (talk) 23:22, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Shenice Quinn

Yeah I wasn't too sure about Shenice Quinn's last episode, I went off her BBC EastEnders profile

• http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/4tYRp8cFLJ0Y5NWtqgM6wT0/shenice-quinn

but they may have gotten they information from IMDB as I can't find anything on either of the credits for 23 July 2012 or the synopsis.

Part 1

• http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01l8nkj

Part 2

• http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01l92z7

Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 00:27, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

But you put 9 August 2012, which IMDb says but the BBC doesn't. I think 23 July is correct, because I seem to remember Shenice leaving, and then being in the live broadcast (they also brought back other child characters who weren't really around at that time - I think Tiffany and Morgan might have been there, but they're also not credited online, probably just so it was special for the actors as as once-in-a-lifetime opportunity) and then not appearing again. And I'm sure if she was in 9 August, we'd have noted it at the time in this article. anemoneprojectors 11:54, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Daily Mail and The Sun

Posting this diff:

• https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2011)&diff=932423217&oldid=932035426

So that we can see all the sources and information removed from this page that was sourced to DM and the Sun. Much of it can and should be replaced. Honestly I'm fed up of people removing the sources and doing nothing to try to replace them. The removals are then forgotten and the information lost from Wikipedia forever. — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 00:15, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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