Talk:List of Category 4 Pacific hurricanes

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December 14, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that 94 known Category 4 hurricanes have occurred in the Pacific Ocean since 1900?
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Scanned (1988–1996)
Regular (1995–present)
Central Pacific Hurricane Center reports

Including 1943 one

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I disagree with including that one as part of the official list, as it's not in the official hurricane database. Therefore, the winds were never properly analyzed, so it isn't an official C4. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:22, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Removed and added note. HurricaneFan25 21:52, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
I disagree with Hink, a WP:RS say it was a C4, so we have to include it. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:49, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Where? The MWR only says "A maximum wind velocity of 134 m.p.h. was reached about 9:30 a.m." in the MWR. We don't even know if those were sustained winds. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Then, the winds should be removed from the infobox of the 1943 hurricane article. YE Pacific Hurricane 04:21, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Massive overlinking, false information (Jimena made four landfalls, not one, and neither of the four were as a Cat 3), no need for "Baja California state", just be simple and say "Baja California". Socorro Island does not count as a landfall, as they are not included in the EPAC book. And source the EPAC book instead of HURDAT for the landfalls. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

"EPac book"? HurricaneFan25 00:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
This. YE Pacific Hurricane 04:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
All issues addressed. HurricaneFan25 13:10, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
The overlinking and the removal of "state" in the landfall section has not been addressed. YE Pacific Hurricane 15:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
I link all storms in the table for convenience of readers; state helps clarify — in a few cases — between cities and states. HurricaneFan25 15:49, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Then, why are season articles linked a lot of times (i.e. 1993 Pacific hurricane season). YE Pacific Hurricane 15:57, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, I'll fix those later; but List of Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes links the season multiple times. HurricaneFan25 16:04, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wait a minute

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Add Amanda!--Macman252 (talk) 00:17, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

2014's Genevieve

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Should 2014's Genevieve be added here? It was a category 5 cyclone, but it only attained that intensity at the western side on the Dateline. While being east of the Dateline, it peaked as a category 4 storm, just like the stoms listed in this article. ABC paulista (talk) 02:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

@ABC paulista: I'll add it. Dustin (talk) 02:59, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hmm... I am not so sure. It later strengthened to Category 5 intensity, which would normally mean it wouldn't be included, but it only reached this intensity after crossing the International Date Line being renamed a typhoon. Dustin (talk) 03:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
The question is a tough one, however, we have to remember that this is a list of Category 4 Pacific hurricanes. Had it of been a Category 5 at 179.9E rather than 178.6 i would off added it to the Cat 5 list.Jason Rees (talk) 03:24, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Jason Rees: If you think it should be included, you had best revert my undo of myself. I'd also add a note saying it intensified further after crossing the International Date Line, though. Dustin (talk) 03:29, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yea, Genevieve should be here, not for C5. But feel free to include a note that it strengthened to C5 across the date line. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Hurricanehink: Okay, I'll re-add it. Dustin (talk) 03:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I would not have had added it to the Cat 5 list if it was one at 179.7E, since it was never one in the basin. Unless it gets upgraded to a Cat 5 at 6z (which it IMO was, when it was literally at the dateline), we can revist. For now, it should be included here, with a possible note that it became a Cat 5 just after crossing the dateline. YE Pacific Hurricane 03:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Inclusion already done, note included. Dustin (talk) 03:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Im looking at the JMV/RBT files and Gen is listed as 100 kts before leaving the CPAC or in other words it wasnt a cat 4 in the EPAC just a cat 3.Jason Rees (talk) 04:22, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
CPHC in one of their advisories said it was 115 knts. The ATCF says it was 100 knts at 0z only, and was last updated (at 130z) before the CPHC increased (at 3z) the intensity to 115 knts. YE Pacific Hurricane 05:29, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
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