Talk:Kinya Okada

About the sources

@Illusion Flame I couldn't find any Japanese sources but I have got alot of reliable sources for later in the draft (for example: 2022). The source that I am using is a reliable source though according to WikiProject Professional Wrestling. Shadow345110 (talk) 18:52, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Great! Wikiproject source assessments are very useful. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 18:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Illusion Flame I have found someone that is happy to translate and give me information about Japan when I need it and also find Japanese sources in case I don't understand. They have also found the Japanese Wikipedia article for Kinya Okada. @Layah50 Please can you put the link on this talk page that would be a massive help you have already improved the draft quite a bit by adding his nickname and more information. Shadow345110 (talk) 17:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Here it is! Sorry for the late reply.. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 23:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Layah50 Thanks and don't rush to reply take your time. Shadow345110 (talk) 23:35, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame did you see the Japanese Wikipedia page for Kinya Okada. Shadow345110 (talk) 23:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I did. Just letting you know, in case you didn’t know, that Wikipedia in another language isn’t a reliable source. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame I know it just proves that an article about Kinya Okada can be written. And it might hell in some way. Shadow345110 (talk) 23:49, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yep, although the Japananese Wikipedia may not have the same notability rules as we do, I’m not sure. Don’t really understand your last sentence. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame Sorry, help it might help in some way not hell. Shadow345110 (talk) 23:52, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

That makes sense. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for adding tables Layah50. Shadow345110 (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Update: August 2, 2023

Hi @Illusion Flame I have sorted out the ref bombing and have found reliable Japanese sources on the official website with some help from Layah50. The official website is reliable according to WP:PW/Sources. I am going to keep adding to it while I am active for a short amount of time. On Friday I'll no longer be as active. Just wanted to tell you how the draft is going and what I am going to do with it. Thanks for listening. Shadow345110 (talk) 19:26, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Of course. I’m sorry to see you become less active after Friday, but I do hope you’ll return to normal activities soon. Sometime you’re free, I would recommend turning that long section of details into a table. Thanks! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame I still don't know how. I found the help page a bit confusing can you help please. I want to get this done because I have nearly 40 drafts waiting to be written believe it or not. That would help Wikipedia. Shadow345110 (talk) 23:33, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I would love to help, you know I would. Unfortunately, I don’t currently have the time (or knowledge of the subject, like you do) to commit to it at this time. Maybe try reading this help page that should be simpler for you. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame This is much better thanks. Shadow345110 (talk) 23:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I've prepared the first table in the draft. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 23:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Looks good so far. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:59, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hi @Layah50 when I add new information would you like me to let you know so you can put it on the tables is that ok??? Shadow345110 (talk) 00:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes! That's totally OK! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 00:33, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Nice I think together we can put this on mainspace Layah50. Shadow345110 (talk) 00:36, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Layah50 Why is the reflist increasing when we are not adding sources. Shadow345110 (talk) 00:51, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Ah, its because I'm adding the ref to the table while leaving the original text. (Don't worry I'll replace it when the table is finished!) 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 00:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

ok just wondering. Shadow345110 (talk) 01:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

@Layah50 I'm very sorry to be a pain but can you add another section to the table to add the promotion/company the match was for please. Shadow345110 (talk) 01:27, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Do you mean where the match took place in? 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 01:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

@Layah50 No for example the company/promotion for this is NOAH but there are others like WWE, AEW, Lucha Libre etc; I will add the promotions myself if you add the section please. Shadow345110 (talk) 01:43, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Ah, ok I'll add the sections! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 01:58, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Layah50 Thanks and thanks for all your help I appreciate it. Shadow345110 (talk) 02:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

No problem! I'll come back later and check! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 02:02, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Update:August 3, 2023

How is this now @Illusion Flame me and Layah50 have done what you asked. They added the tables I corrected some errors and added information. I have now started another draft but that one I did just for later after this draft is finished or in mainspace. Shadow345110 (talk) 02:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

A favour

Hi @Layah50 I was wondering if you can put some more information on Kinya Okada while I work on my other draft because you are going to be more active then me. The source I use is the first one on the ref list I can find and put on the sources from noah.co.jp when I am more active just use the first source for now just so the information is not unsourced at least. Only if you want to though. Shadow345110 (talk) 18:58, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Sure, No problem! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 23:15, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

I've begun adding more of Okada's matches on the list. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 01:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Layah50 Thank you so much. Please can you ping when you message me just so I know you have messaged me thanks. Shadow345110 (talk) 01:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Shadow345110 Ah, I forgot about that. Ok, I'll ping you when I reply. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 01:38, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Layah50 Thanks just so I can respond quicker. Shadow345110 (talk) 01:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Update: August 4 2023

Hi @Layah50 If you want to I can give you the next page of matches. Shadow345110 (talk) 01:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Shadow345110 His 2020 matches? 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 02:02, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Layah50 It just gives me the next 50 matches of cause you don't have to do all 50 but that is how many the page gives you let me put one match on with the source and then you can use it. Shadow345110 (talk) 02:06, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Shadow345110 Ok! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 02:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Layah50 It is number 38 on the ref list and the ref name is Kinya-Okada2. Thank you for doing this for me. Shadow345110 (talk) 02:16, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Layah50 I am going to go to bed because it is now 3:30 AM and I should've went to bed ages ago but I was having too much fun editing with you lol. Also I did not want to leave you to do all the editing because that is unfair on you. You might want to do somethinv else not edit on my page all day. Lol. Shadow345110 (talk) 02:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Illusion Flame What do you think about the page now it has come a long way. Shadow345110 (talk) 02:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

It has been much improved recently. Great job all! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 02:35, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Lol, it's almost morning over there! 3 and a half hours later and the sun is already coming up! 😂🤣

Same here, I'm also enjoying working with you considering this is the first time I've worked on an article with someone this long since joining in late 2021! I'll try and edit as much as I can as the vandalism log is very low at the moment. Thanks for the source and good night! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 02:41, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for all your work Layah50 I can't believe this used to be a draft I startd in June. It has now became an article I am still processing. Shadow345110 (talk) 09:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC)