Talk:Karnataka/Archive 1

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Caves

Can someone please tell me what is a "12th century caves" in Basava Kalyana. Do these caves have 12th century paintings/sculptures??. Generally caves systems dont have time designations attached because most are millions of years old.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Karnataka Flag

Indian states, with exception to Jammu and Kashmir, do not have state flags. The Karnataka flag is unofficial. Thus, its image should be removed. -amitroy5 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amitroy5 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

Although the flag is unofficial, it is widely used in Karnataka for all practical purposes. Flag of Karnataka is even being hoisted on the occasion of Kannada Rajyotsava. Hence reference to the flag is necessary. So I'm reinserting the image clearly indicating the flag is unofficial. Gnanapiti 19:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. I agree with your point. Earlier, there was no label of its unofficial status. -amitroy5

Karnataka Literature

I am trying to put together a page (hyper linked as Karnataka Literature listing some great Kannada /Sanskrit scholars/poets who were patronized by various Kannada Kingdoms. On this page I have mentioned the reference source also. However, for several scholars, the names of their most important works are not mentioned. In some other cases, I have mentioned their names but am not sure if the work is in Kannada or Sanskrit or Prakrit. If anyone out there can provide this information and add to this page, I think it will be more complete work. If anyone can think of any other literatures I have not mentioned, please feel free to add to the list. Please remember that because of the nature of Indian kingdoms, poets and scholars were often patronized by multiple kingdoms and sometimes by overlords and feduciaries at the same time. Please be sure to add soruces and references.Lets bring out the glory that is Karnataka Literature!!

Dinesh Kannambadi

Pictures

Nice pictures. Can you please add a few more like one picture each from Badami Chalukya (Pattadakal), Rashtrakuta (Ellora), Kalyani Chalukya (Itigi or Kuruvatti or Lakkundi). Many of these pictures can be found in www.indoarch.org and has copy right protection. I have not done this before or I would have done it myself.

Dinesh Kannambadi

We had a long list of the districts of Karnataka in this article; we already have a separate article on the districts of Karnataka, so I have removed the list from this article and have added a link to that article (Districts of Karnataka). --ashwatha 05:36, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

GDSP Figures added

I have added GDSP figures per capa/per year for Karnataka. The figure is in INR converted at current rates to USD.

Copyright

I just noted that [1] added copyrighted material from [2]. Thue | talk 21:15, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I note there is a seperate article on Devadasis which mentions Karnatika so the information can go there. My source was the Operation World (website) but I note the BBC and Newsweek also have articles, though the extent of the problem is a matter of some dispute it seems. Admittedly the economy wasn`t the ideal place but money seems to be changing hands so... I am sorry to add something negative but I felt the issue merited wider awareness..Andycjp 9th June 2005

Thank you for your prompt action, This page could do with a lot of attention, but to achieve a FA status (some day), It will require references and good sectioning.--IMpbt 16:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Four southern states?

The article on South India says there are five States: Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andra Prahesh and Goa; but this article says there are only four? I don't feel that I know enough about India or Wikipedia to change it myself. Should this be changed to five? Harry

And obviously Karnataka --BostonMA 13:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

• Although it is widely used both in India and elsewhere, the divisions of north and south india are not altogether clear. Many Indians claim that the reason for the two different regions is purely linguistic, meaning that North Indians speak Indo-European languages and South Indians speak Dravidian Languages. Going by this definition, Goa is in North India because its primary spoken language, Konkani, is Indo-European, and also both of the official languages, Marathi and English, are also Indo-European. Other people say that it is a geographic term while still others argue that it is a political region. Some others contend that it is a fusion of the three. If it were possible, I would like to stop that term from being used at all because it does not make sense and its meaning is constantly being disputed. However, since our job here at Wikipedia is to define terms, I believe that we should not include Goa as one of the states, meaning that we should edit South India. My basis for this argument is the fact that the majority of people use the term "South India" to refer to a cultural or linguistic region and since Goa is very distant both linguistically and culturally to other parts of Southern India, it should not be included as a part of it. AmbExThErMaL 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

A Picture speaks a thousand words

Can someone put a bunch of nice pictures in this page, like Jog Falls, a photo from Pattadakal or Hampi or Belur/Halebidu.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Languages

According to [3]

The langauge distribution of Karnataka is as follows:

The State of Karnataka has a population of 4,49,77,201 persons, according to the 1991 Census of India. The regional language of the State is Kannada whose speakers constitute 64.75 per cent of the population.

The major linguistic minority groups in the State comprise the speakers of Urdu (9.72%), Telugu (8.34%), Marathi (3.95%), Tamil (3.82%), Malayalam (1.69%), Tulu (3.38%), Konkani (1.78%), and Hindi (1.87%).

I'm not sure but a considerable proportion speak Kodava (or Coorgi) language.Can somebody reseach and put it up. Manjukirans 09:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Jog Falls highest in Asia?

According to [4] Dudhsagar has a height of 600 meters, while Gersoppa (Jog) has a height of only 253. It is common lore in Karnataka that Jog is the highest in India, I've seen that written, though I can't recall the source. However, I'm not sure that it is true. Perhaps it depends upon exactly what is meant, i.e. perhaps Jog has the longest single drop, (Dudhsagar is a cascade). Without more definite knowledge, I think it is safer to say that Jog is one of the highest falls in Asia. --BostonMA 14:25, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Article Getting Better

If we keep up the good work on this article, soon it can be upgraded to featured status. AmbExThErMaL 20:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Where this article is heading...

My next long term project will be to consolidate this article to a point where a peer review actually makes sense. Of course, I think we are lucky to have some great editors concurrently working on this article, and so I request their participation in whipping this article back into shape! I have restructured the lead (I realize that it is by no means perfect..consider it to be a work-in-progress). I have also consolidated the History section per Wikipedia:Summary Style. A good portion (if not all) of the old history version had been copied and pasted from OurKarnataka. I will continue to work on Geography and Demographics, and hopefully, we will be in a good position to push Karnataka for a constructive peer review in a couple of months.AreJay 03:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

minerals and industry

I have added useful info to agriculture and tourism sections. Can someone add useful info on minerals and Industry. Just claiming that Karnataka has 5% of multinationals is not good enough. Also a few more good pictures on agriculture, industry etc can make this page more attractive.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Wildlife in KarnatakaDineshkannambadi 14:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Over the years I have enjoyed following the scent of the wild in Karnataka. I have put together a gallery of pictures (a very small selection from of all the photos I have) for Rangantittu Bird Sanctuary, Bhadra Wildlife Sanctuary, Bandipur National Park. I am in the process of adding photos to Nagarahole and Biligirirangan Hills WLS also. It takes some time to dig up the right ones from my albums, scan them into format and upload into wikipedia. Enjoy the photos!!. If anyone has photos from WLS from north Karnataka, please take time to create hyperlinks to those Sanctuaries and add pictures. A picture says a thousand words, and I believe even millions of words can't justify and convey the beauty of Karnataka.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Tiger!!

Finally, after nine years of photography, seven wildlife sanctuaries in two states (Karnataka and A.P., some with multiple visits) and after four seperate sightings of the migthy beast, I had the opportunity to get a long enough view to take a clear photograph. Enjoy!!. Karnataka stands 3rd in the country for Tiger population per 2000 census with the numbers quoted at greater than 400 (argueable with recent concerns of poaching through out the country).

Dinesh Kannambadi

Some Ideas

Can somebody add info or copyedit already existing info about the following.

Infrastructure

• Power
• Roads, bridges, tunnels
• Railways
• Ports
• Communication
• Healthcare infrastructure
• Education

Economy

• SEZs
• Industry

• Heavy industries

  Mining

  Textile

  Manufacturing

• Technology/Software/Hardware industries

• VAT

Also lot of the information about nature/historical places can be 're-packaged' under

Tourism

• Nature tourism
• Places of historical interest
• Medical tourism(?? - this coul be under healthcare also)

etc.

More ideas and suggestions are welcome. Sarvagnya 22:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

More Ideas

Can some one also add to the section on Music and copy edit at least some info on Purandaradasa and Kanakadasa with some pictures. Same for Hindusthani music, may be Gangubai Hanagal, Bhimsen Joshi. Some info on modern literaters like Kuvempu would also look good.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Vijayanagar architecture

I have created a page for Vijayanagar Architecture using source infomation from respected authors and photos taken by myself in 2004, focussing on the niche aspects of their style. While the pages on Vijayanagar and Hampi give plenty of scope to view Vijayanagar temples, the page Vijayanagar Architecture tries to focus on interesting details of why, where and how they choose certian styles. Please try to contribute positively to this page. All my info was obtained from the reference sources I have given in the reference section of the same page. Enjoy. I am going to include this page in "see also" section for Karnataka page. Dineshkannambadi 18:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Fantastic job! Sarvagnya 19:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Karnataka Politics

I have just created page on karnata politics http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Karnataka_Politics . Please help me to improve it.

Badami Chalukya Architecture

I have created a basic template with some photos I got from a friend. I will later elaborate more on this page from a source that is exclusively on the architecture of Badami Chalukyas and after my visit to Aihole-Badami-Pattadakal in Karnataka when I plan to take more pictures of temples, inscriptions, sculptures and coins etc. For now I have also added photos to Badami, Badami Cave Temples and main Chalukya page. Please feel free to add more photos to these pages provided they can improve the infomation on these pages. I have also made an "see also" include to this page in the main Karnataka page. The long term goal is to consolidate all styles of architecture from Badami Chalukya-Mysore Kingdom, spanning an era of some 1300 years. Enjoy!!

Dineshkannambadi

Cleaning up this article

I am trying to clean up this article. If you dont like the changes I am making please talk to me before reverting. Leotolstoy 00:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I have added many new sections and deleted some. I am planning to create a new article on tourism and make this section very short. Help by adding information to some of these new sections. Leotolstoy 00:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I've been cleaning up this article since yesterday. I've cpedited tourism, transport, economy and geography sections. As a result the article has reduced from a humongous 56 kb to a more reasonable 44 kb. I will be cpediting History section soon. Right now, I am only summarising to conform to WP:SS. Once this is done, we will have to get down to cleaning up for tone, POV etc.,. After that is done, hopefully we can pass it through peer review and see how it goes. Sarvagnya 20:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I just did some deletions. But there is a huge possibility that many people might take it personal and might revert back. Leotolstoy 22:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

No. I dont think so. All the stuff that was removed from here is sitting safe in its own dedicated article. So if somebody feels that there is something there that ought to be here also, we can always try to factor those in when we tighten the prose. Sarvagnya 22:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Air transportation

I dont know how anybody can make statements such as "Karnataka is well connected to the rest of India and the international world.". I think Karnataka's air transport system is poor compared to international scenario. Only a few international flights start from the state. Can somebody come-up with a objective opinion on this (I tried and I think people did not liked it). Leotolstoy 12:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Karnataka userbox

Hello all,

Here is a Karnataka userbox I have created. Wiki Raja 11:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

This user is from Karnataka.

Archive 1

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Archive 3

Proposal to add a new section on Notable residents

One person who could be listed in this section would be:

• G. Muthuraj, footballer in the 1950s

His page in Wikipedia cites one reference:

• Footballer Muthuraj no more; Times News Network; The Times of India; pg 22; Monday, May 22, 2006.

My context in this proposal is my part in the 'Adding link to orphaned article, Wikiproject Orphanage: You can help!' activty. TheAMmollusc (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Disagree. There are way too many notable residents. 71.90.21.128 (talk) 23:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Turn off Semi-protection

I tried reading the talk archives to see why it was being semi-protected, but didn't see a reason. Does this article still need semi-protection? 125.215.150.94 (talk) 10:58, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from MeenalKulk, 19 May 2011

Today Belgaum has become a controversial issue as Maharashtra too, rightly claims to be its part owing to 80% Marathi speaking population.

MeenalKulk (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)  Not done - Please specify exactly what you want to change in the article. Your statement should read like: Please change X to Y. Yes Michael? •^Talk 19:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 122.167.17.153, 30 May 2011

Karnataka being a multilingual state, various linguistic groups have been demanding for separate states based on language in the regions where those languages are spoken by the majority. Tuluvas and Kodavas are major ethnic groups which aspire to form separate states.

Can you please delete the above mentioned statement this is not true, Majority of Kodava people want to be with karnataka and few Kodavas now have asked for regional autonomous district with in karnataka and Tulu people have never asked for separation from karnataka, in fact Tulu people are fore front in promoting Karnataka.

122.167.17.153 (talk) 14:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. elektrikSHOOS 18:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

KANNADA is the only official language of KARNTAKA. You have wrongly included in English and Hindi. You may verify this information with Andhra Pradesh only Telugu, Kerala only Malayalam and Tamil Nadu only Tamil is mentioned. Immediately remove English and Hindi as this information totally incorrect. If it is not done you are treating Karnataka separately compared to other states which violates Constitution and rouse passions. ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ

First of all, cool down; "samvidhaanada bagge ashtu high-level maatu kathe beda". I agree Hindi is not treated as an official language. According to the Karnataka Official Language act 1963, Kannada is the official language of the state. English is also recognized as a language valid for all official purposes. I will remove Hindi from the list. Lynch7 13:56, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 21 October 2011

Jnanpith Award received by kannadigs is eight. recently Chandrashekhara Kambara awarded. Pkbheemaraju (talk) 02:59, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Article already has Writers in the Kannada language have received the most number of Jnanpith awards in India. Mentioning the names is WP:UNDUE here. Will be appropriate in Kannada. — Abhishek  ^Talk 03:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Autosizing images as upright=0.90 plus ALT

I am planning to change all the images to use auto-sizing parameters, based on each viewer's Special:Preferences for the default image size, to fit either PC or handheld viewing. For example, adding the image parameter "|upright=0.90" will autosize the image as 90% of the user's default size. A typical large portrait is set simply as "|upright" (with no number), which defaults to about 76%, and avoids the "over-powering huge pictures" of people in close-up portraits. Also, I will add the "alt=" parameter to give a short physical description of the image (at mouse-over) for sight-impaired readers who rely on written, or machine-spoken, text about the image contents. -Wikid77 (talk) 16:54, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

• DONE. I have set the "upright=" scale number to autosize images, and set the "alt=xx" parameter in 25 images, per WP:ACCESS, to give a short physical description of each image for sight-impaired users who prefer written text about each image's contents. Wikid77 19:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I can't believe there was no ALT text all this time (or was there?) Lynch7 14:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 March 2012

I think the paragraph "Parts of modern-day Karnataka were occupied by the Chola Empire..." is too long. It talks mostly of the Chola conquests in Karnataka, going to the length of mentioning in details each of their Kings' names while some of the greatest rulers of Rashtrakuta, Chalukya, Kalyani Chalukyas, and Karnataka (Vijayanagara) empire do not find a mention. Such details in the summary is not required and I believe this paragraph should be cut down to two sentences.

I suggest it should be cut down to this: "Parts of modern-day Karnataka, including the whole of Gangavadai were occupied by the Chola Empire between 990-1210 AD but the Cholas eventually lost Gangavadi in 1116 to the Hoysalas under Vishnuvardhana"

(From Sandeep KN)

49.249.114.150 (talk) 13:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — Abhishek  ^Talk 14:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

A few points

• The flag shown at the top right side is not the official flag of the state as is later written in the article itself;so it should not be shown in the infobox.
• the second external link Karnataka Government Information Department leads to a japanese language website which isn't exactly about karnataka as far as i could understand with the help of google translate.
• I also doubt the value of this line in the sports section ".....and in one international match held in the 1990s; players from Karnataka composed the majority of the national team."[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 08:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh

Edit request on 19 April 2012

122.179.22.197 (talk) 12:34, 19 April 2012 (UTC) Bengaluru Not done: You need to detail a specific change you would like to make. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 June 2012 - update the literacy rate with current data

Literacy rate given in the infobox and in Education section need to be updated. It still have the 2001 census data, as of census 2011 literacy rate in Karnata is 75.60%.

http://updateox.com/india/26-populated-cities-karnataka-population-sex-ratio-literacy/

Rabinbs (talk) 17:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: Can you please tell me where exactly this outdated information is so I may be able to find it and update it?—cyberpower ^Chat_{Limited Access} 18:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

1st - outdated information is in the INFOBOX - that is showing up in the top right side of the page, the information is located at the bottom (4th item from end) of that widget.

2nd on is in the EDUCATION section i.e 11th item in TOC #Education shall work also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabinbs (talk • contribs) 18:19, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done Rabinbs (talk) 09:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 October 2012

Add a transliteration of Karnataka in the State's official language, Kannada [Karnataka, ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ] Maadi77 (talk) 11:08, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done — Dianna (talk) 15:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Is Karnataka the land of only Kannadigas?

The lead in this article states that "Karnataka is the land of Kannadigas". Is it not being unfair to other native ethnic groups of the state? Tuluvas, Kodavas, Konkanis etc are also natives of this state. Requesting the questionable statement to be removed.117.226.240.122 (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I quite agree with that. Anyone has a suggestion for an alternative sentence? Lynch7 17:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

• Agree Even I agree on that. One possible way would be:

  Karnataka is a state in South West India. It was created on 1 November 1956, with the passing of the States Reorganisation Act and this day is annually celebrated as Karnataka Rajyotsava (Formation Day) and is the land of Kannadigas, Tuluvas, Konkanis and Kodavas.

  or

  Karnataka, the land of Kannadigas, Tuluvas, Konkanis and Kodavas is a state in South West India.

  Any other suggestions? — Abhishek  ^Talk 12:43, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I would prefer something on the lines of the first option. If we go on with the 2nd option, then we'll be bombarded with edit requests, asking each group to be named. Coming to the first option, if we can somehow refine "...is a state in South West India", and replace it with a larger sentence, because just the short sentence will look tacky. Lynch7 14:35, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

IMHO, the current one is good enough - WP:KISS! (i.e. "Karnataka is the land of Kannadigas") - Niri M / ನಿರಿ 16:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

@MikeLynch Fair enough. These were just samples. They need to be corrected for grammar though. Do you have anything in mind?

@Niri What about the coastal belt which is home to the Konkanis and Tuluvas and Kodagu which is home to the Kodavas? There are a significant number of these communities though Kannadigas being the largest. — Abhishek  ^Talk 17:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Niri, its true we should keep it simple, but it would be a misrepresentation of sorts (but again, it depends on how we define Kannadiga–if we define it as the speakers of Kannada, then we'd have an issue, but if we define it as the residents of the Karunadu region, then it would be fine). I think its better we steer clear of any misconceptions and possible misunderstandings. Lynch7 18:08, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

The Kannadiga article clearly states that people who are native speakers of Kannada are Kannadigas. By that logic the statement "Karnataka is the land of Kannadigas" need to be deleted 117.226.132.104 (talk) 01:55, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I think its better if we do not list out any groups in the lead at all (trust me, we'll have a horrid time later on when we handle edit requests). Lets have a look at the FA Minnesota, where the lead is clean. We can do something like that. Lynch7 02:54, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Consider this lead for this article "Karnataka, a state in South West India, was created on 1 November 1956, with the passing of the States Reorganisation Act. Originally known as the State of Mysore, it was renamed Karnataka in 1973" 117.226.184.217 (talk) 12:57, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

The IP speaks well (you should create an account really). What say guys? I'm in favor of this. Lynch7 13:10, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I am not really in favor of removing the "...land of Kannadigas.." part. Giving a broader meaning to include Tuluvas, Konkani, Kodavas would be ok, but that should not lead to other ethno-linguistic demanding their inclusion! They have a state of their own (atleast in old times)..KevinBraun 21:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Agree with KevinBraun. Perhaps adding about Tuluvas, Konkanis and Kodavas would make it complete. - Niri M / ನಿರಿ ^(Talk) 13:40, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

It should be fine, but there is all the possibility of some other community demanding their representation. I think we'll update this for now, unless there is some more opposition. Lynch7 14:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done. Lynch7 14:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

One out of the context issue. Kannadiga wikipedians keep an eye on some of the Karnataka related wiki pages, especially those which got featured star because of the hard work put up by some early wikipedians such as Dinesh Kannambadi. There is vandalism going on every now and then. E.g. Chalukyas page. Thanks. - KevinBraun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.92.168 (talk) 21:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I wish I had the pleasure of knowing Dinesh. We need people like him! Lynch7 14:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Do we even need that sentence there? What about the rest of the people who speak other languages than those listed there? Those who are born in Karnataka but speak a different language cannot claim Karnataka to be their land? That sentence is jingoistic at best. All languages and people groups (if there are any) are discussed in the Demography section. I'll be removing that sentence from the lead. Gnanapiti (talk) 01:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think we're going into that. It speaks about the native people of the land, and nothing more. Lynch7 11:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Sir, along with Konkanis and Tuluvas, why are not Tamilians included in linguistic minorities of Karnataka. A large number of Tamilians are settled primarily in three districts of Karnataka, namely Bangalore, Mysore, Chamarajanagar (to a limited or very limited extent in the Mandya district of Karnataka, where there is an ancient Tamilian settlement/township at both Melukote (in the vicinity of the Chennakeshava and Narasimha temples, as well as Kiretonnur (known as Thondanur in Tamil). Srirangam99 (talk) 17:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Reliable sources regarding occupation of parts of Kannada country by Cholas between 1000-1200 AD

I request Pied hornbill to discuss and consider the references sourced by me which are placed below before arbitrarily deleting my contributions. My contributions are based on not one but two books by K.A.Nilakanta Sastri. These should be discussed before Pied hornbill decides to act as a self-appointed admin. Srirangam99 (talk) 02:53, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

In support of my contention that the Cholas held parts of Karnataka for around 200 years from 1000 AD to 1200 AD, here are excerpts from two books by K.A.Nilakanta Sastri. The first book is 'A History of South India - From Prehistoric Times to the fall of Vijayanagar' - Fourth Edition, Oxford India Paperbacks (2003).

At page 176 of this the following text proves rule of the Cholas over parts of Karnataka:

Quote: "Rajaraja II ruled generally in peace till about 1173. Having no son, he chose Rajadhiraja II, a grandson of Vikrama Chola by a daughter, for the succession and appointed him yuvaraja in 1166. Rajaraja II's empire extended over the whole of the Telugu country up to Daksharama (Draksharama) and over large sections of Kongunade and the eastern part of Gangavadi." Unquote.

Let me add that Rajaraja Chola II ruled between 1146-1173. So I think you would accept that the hold of Chola over Gangavadi which is currently part of Mysore district and also contained parts of what is now the modern Mandya district in Karnataka, continued much beyond 1116 and hence my claim is not 'unsubstantiated' and I may be permitted to retain my part of the text.

That is not all. There is an excerpt from another book by K.A.Nilakanta Sastri titled "Advanced History of India" (1984 reprint), Allied Publishers (Low prized text book) at page 292 which reads:

Quote: "Kulottunga III undertook successful expeditions in Kongu country (Tagadur) and defended Gangavadi against Hoysala Ballala II. He also fought successful wars against the Cheras and performed Vijayabhisheka at Karuvur in A.D. 1193 while returning from his victories against Hoysala Ballala II and the Cheras." Unquote.

I may point out that Kulottunga Chola III ruled between 1178 AD to 1215 or 1218 AD. His rule though, was weak and tottered following his defeat by the Pandyas in 1205 AD. Before 1205 AD he was a very powerful king.

Here is another excerpt from a second book by Sri K.A.Nilakanta Sastri titled "Advanced History of India" (1984 reprint), Allied Publishers (Low prized text book) at page 293

Quote: "Following his checking the growth of Hoysala power in Gangavadi and adjoining areas, Kulottunga's relations however, with Hoysala Ballala II became friendly, for Ballala married a Chola princess and both sides ceased fighting and ensured each other's territorial integrity. Ballala's attention however, was soon diverted towards protecting his northern conquests following the frequent incursions of the warrior-like Singhana, the Yadava who succeeded Jaitugi." Unquote.

In support of information sourced from the above reliable sources, I am making changes to the article claiming Cholas occupied parts of Karnataka between 1000-1200 AD. Srirangam99 (talk) 17:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Any reversion of edits in the article, reasons for which have been given above, may be done after due discussion and consideration. Srirangam99 (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

showing the complete list of districts is unnecessary

showing the complete list of districts in the main page of karnataka' is unnecessary and it is page consuming. Instead one can easily navigate through the link, that may be called as list of districts of karnataka.' And it is not mentioned in the introduction of the subdivision topic that karnataka, a state is divided as districts on the basis of ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karsolene (talk • contribs) 14:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

edit request

The sentences containing

[...] Karnataka has also been home to [...]

[...] Karnataka has also established a modicum of public health services [...]

The state also accounts for 75% of India's floriculture [...]

would be stronger without "also." "Also" invites the reader to connect the previous material with what follows, but the ideas are too disparate for that to work. Rybec (talk) 06:13, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I did it myself. —rybec 09:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 May 2013

Update the name of the chief minister. 122.172.22.100 (talk) 07:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Already done —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:58, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

edit request

Minor one: the caption below the picture of the Jog Falls currently says they are the highest plunge waterfall in India. However if you click on the link to go the waterfall's Wikipedia page, it says there that they are the second highest.144.32.138.217 (talk) 18:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit request from Sspatil.nie, 17 September 2011

Update the Poluation of the State as per the 2011 Census.

State: Karnataka Population : 61130704 Male  : 31057742 Female  : 30072962

Source : http://updateox.com/india/state-wise-population-of-india-as-per-2011-census/

Sspatil.nie (talk) 08:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

 Already done Jay _{Σεβαστός}^discuss 09:39, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

It's unfair to kannada and kannadigas and kannada dynasties by including other language references here..

clearly konkani migrated after portugese invasion..kannadigas gave them shelter/protection..how will they become part of karnataka..it's high time they start calling themselves as kannadigas after living here for so many centuries..

Kodavas were always ruled under kannadigas....

Again kannada has been official language historically for more than 1500 years atleast...respect history..edit the wiki accordingly..

wake up kannadigas...teach these guys history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.129.143 (talk) 04:01, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

The Konkanis from Portugese Goa were given shelter by Tuluvas and not Kannadigas ? 117.227.185.75 (talk) 05:11, 25 November 2012 (UTC) Konkanis were given protection by Keladi Nayakas in those days. That’s why many Konkanis in Uttara kannada district have sir name “Naik”. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:E68:5430:4AA5:9449:2873:9818:4EED (talk) 14:21, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Karnataka map

please change the image of the Karnataka map showing the districts under sub divisions. It does not show the newer districts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.166.217.154 (talk) 12:28, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Re: reviewer BilCat of proposed change regarding inage in Infobox

The current infobox image on Karnataka was labeled "Map of Karnataka" when in fact it was a map of India showing the location of Karnataka. Users with low-bandwidth connections don't load images unless they are the ones they want. I had recently viewed the page, and in fact I wanted to know where Karnataka was in India, and so left that page to look elsewhere. It was only later that I discovered that the image was the one I would have liked to see all along, but was mis-labeled. Did you look at the page and my edit and not understand what the caption said?

Also, for people actually looking in a hurry for maps of Karnataka, the TOC heading "Sub-divisions" might be clearer if it said "Political Sub-divisions" or just "Districts of Karnataka" or even better "Districts of Karnataka and maps". It would also make more style sense if the image "Regions_of_KA" appeared first, side-by-side with "Karnataka_districts-new", then with the text listing the districts following the images. This does seem the proper article to list the districts. Why doesn't the text listing the districts mention their region?

A reduced-resolution version of Karnataka_topo_deu.png would be useful at the Geography section, or a map showing the three zones mentioned in the text. That topo map would also be more useful if the neighboring states were shaded or the borders marked more clearly.66.19.92.23 (talk) 08:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

The reason I didn't accept the edit was that it was unclear what was going from the edit summary. If another editor reviews and approves it, that's fine with me. To the IP: if your going to do these sorts of edits, you ought to consider editing from a registered screen name, as once you've made a certain number of edits, you'll be able to edit semi-protected pages such as this one. - BilCat (talk) 09:49, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

So reviewers look at the edit summary and not the text? Could you suggest what edit summary should be used for this case? How is it transferred to another reviewer?66.19.94.76 (talk) 08:26, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

B. R. Shetty photo spamming

Several IPs have been edit warring for for the past few days to add a photo of B. R. Shetty to the article. He doesn't appear important in relation to the state and its history. There is no context provided to using this photo, and no coverage in the text of this person, who lives in Abu Dhabi, not India. Should the photo be used in the article or not? - BilCat (talk) 13:54, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

English is not an official language of KARNATAKA

Thanks partially obliging HINDI from the official language list of KARNATAKA

Please note I do not require any ones advice to be calm. I am always calm and composed. As a citizen of Karnataka it is my duty to present facts to the world who may be interested in knowing about my state and language. Kindly show me where is it mentioned that English is the official language of KARNATAKA. KANNADA is one and only official language of KARNATAKA.

PLEASE be patient and check the information of our neighboring states ANDHRA, TAMIL NADU and KERALA in Wikipedia itself. (ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ (talk) 10:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)) ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ

Thank you, "artha madkondiddikke dhanyavadagalu; Wikipedia aadharavannagi tagolabaradu" because other articles are rarely seen as a standard. Please read the Karnataka Official Languages Act 1963, where it is mentioned that though Kannada is the "official language" (so called), English is also to be used for official purposes. Lynch7 13:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

English is offcourse official language,all documentation can be done in english according to official language rule of Karnataka. Truth trumps (talk) 21:11, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

KARNATAKA ACT No. 30 OF 1981 (First published in the Karnataka Gazette Extraordinary on the Twentieth day of April 1981) THE KARNATAKA LOCAL AUTHORITIES (OFFICIAL LANGUAGE) ACT, 1981) (Received the assent of the Governor on the Fifteenth day of April, 1981)

An Act to provide for the adoption of Kannada as the language to be used for 

official purposes by all the local authorities within the State of Karnataka.

WHEREAS by Karnataka Act 26 of 1963, Kannada was declared as the official 

Language of the State;

WHEREAS by Notification No. DPAR 29 PCL 79 , dated 4th March 1980, the 

Government of Karnataka notified that Kannada shall be used for all official purposes by all State Government offices throughout the State;

WHEREAS it is expedient to provide for the use of Kannada for all official purposes by 

the local authorities in the State;

BE it enacted by the Karnataka State legislature in the Thirty second year of the 

Republic of India as follows:- 1. Short title.- This Act may be called the Karnataka Local Authorities (Official Language) Act, 1981. 2. Kannada to be the official language of all the local authorities.-The official language of all the local authorities in the State of Karnataka shall be Kannada:

Provided that,- 
(a) the English language may be used in communications,- 
(i) addressed to the Central Government offices, offices of other State 

Governments, and the Accountant General;

(ii) relating to orders made under any law which are subject to appeal or revision 

by any authority.

(iii) addressed to courts other than village courts; 
(iv) where the English language cannot be dispensed with due to administrative 

reasons or where such communications are purely technical and scientific in nature;

(b) if the population of a linguistic minority within the area of operation of such local 

authority is not less than fifteen percent.-

(i) petitions shall be accepted in the language of such minority and as far as 

possible replies thereto shall be given in that language;

(ii) hand-outs and publicity material shall also be given in the language of such 

minority;

(iii) notices of the local authorities shall also be published in the language of 

such minority. Explanation.- In this section, 'local authority" includes a statutory corporation established by or under a law made by the State Legislature with respect to any of the matters enumerated in List II of the Seventh schedule to the Constitution, and a co- operative society registered under the Karnataka Co-operative Societies Act, 1959 (Karnataka Act 11 of 1959)

• • • • • Truth trumps (talk) 21:14, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

KANNADA is one and only official language of KARNATAKA

I would like to re-iterate Kannada is the one and only official language of KARNATAKA. English has no place under this heading. I am not sure what you are trying to convey here. I have read THE KARNATAKA OFFICIAL LANGUAGE ACT, 1963 and also THE KARNATAKA LOCAL AUTHORITIES (OFFICIAL LANGUAGE) ACT, 1981 which is an amendment to 1963 ACT. Hence Please remove ENGLISH from the heading Official Language of Karnataka.

I would also like you to know that I have been an active contributor to Kannada Wiktionary and have contribution of nearly 70,000 edits for the last 2+ years.

It is also our duty to keep uniformity amongst the states of Indian Union and unnecessarily mentioning ENGLISH in the official languages of Karnataka sends wrong signals whereas no such things are mentioned with other states. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ (talk • contribs) 15:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to our Kannada Wikimedia projects. They are much appreciated. Again, I must draw attention to these: "The Karnataka Official Language Act, 1963" (PDF). Government of Karnataka. and Bopanna. "Sahyadri Education Trust vs State Of Karnataka on 4 July, 1988". Karnataka High Court.. It is quite clearly mentioned that Kannada is the official language, with English also valid for official purposes.

Also as a note: It is not necessarily our aim to maintain consistency with other states. Other states may have other language acts; as far as Karnataka is concerned, the Karnataka Official Language Act, 1963 and subsequent amendments are valid. Thank you. Also, kindly continue the discussions in the previous section itself, hence avoiding new sections for each time. Regards, Lynch7 14:18, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

"Official Language" and "valid for official use" are totally two different things. As far as Official language of Karnataka is concerned it is only KANNADA and nothing else. The 1963 Act and subsequent amendments all tell the same thing. Sahyadri case judgement is concerned more with Medium of instruction rather than official language issue and it is irrelevant in this case.

I do not see any logic in equating ENGLISH with KANNADA as the official language and I am also not sure what you are trying to convey to the world. ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ (talk) 05:53, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

This is not my personal analysis; I am merely reporting what is there in the Act. Read the Sahyadri Case properly, it does not exclusively refer to medium of instruction. Kannada is the official language, English is valid for official use; and that is precisely what the article says. Lynch7 06:54, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I have read Sahyadri Case properly, I suggest you also try to understand that case which has no relevance to the topic we are discussing. Common sense tells me there is a vast difference between "Official Language" and language valid for official use. English has no place under the heading "Official Language". FYI some of the neighboring state languages are also valid for official use in certain parts of the state and that does not confer them the Official Language status. I am still not clear what is that you are trying to convey to the world. ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ (talk) 08:34, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I am merely trying to convey to the world, whatever the Act says. The act says that Kannada is the official language, with English also valid for official use. I suppose the "certain parts of state" you mention are disputed areas, such as Belgaum and Kasargod. Anyway, the Act merely says that Kannada is the official language, English is valid for all purposes, and Hindi is valid for use in legislature. I will be inactive for a few days, so I trust you will do what is right. Regards, Lynch7 10:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The Heading here is "Official Language" and the answer to that as per the act is "KANNADA". Just because some other language can also be used for official purposes is some cases, it can not be accorded the status of "Official Language". I am not at all referring to the areas you have mentioned. In general if more than 15% people speak a particular language they can use their language for official purposes. Again that will not give their language the status of official language of the state. Mentioning English under the heading of "Official Language" is totally unwarranted, unacceptable and incorrect by any means. I suggest that you read "THE KARNATAKA LOCAL AUTHORITIES (OFFICIAL LANGUAGE) ACT, 1981" - http://dpal.kar.nic.in/.%5C30%20of%201981%20(E).pdf as well to understand things better. Hope to see what is correct and right is presented to the world about our state. ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ (talk) 13:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, The Karnataka Local Authorities (official Language) Act, 1981 seems to be pretty clear-cut about this one. Must concur with ರಾ ಸು ಮೇಟಿಕುರ್ಕೆ here - "..just because some other language can also be used for official purposes in some cases, it can not be accorded the status of "Official Language".." - Niri M / ನಿರಿ 20:08, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Today's news article on the Indian Express: Namaskara, Swalpa Swalpa Kannada Gottu (see the first line). I'm making the change shortly, thanks. - Niri M / ನಿರಿ ^(Talk) 12:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

English is also official language please read this Truth trumps (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

KARNATAKA ACT No. 30 OF 1981 (First published in the Karnataka Gazette Extraordinary on the Twentieth day of April 1981) THE KARNATAKA LOCAL AUTHORITIES (OFFICIAL LANGUAGE) ACT, 1981) (Received the assent of the Governor on the Fifteenth day of April, 1981)

An Act to provide for the adoption of Kannada as the language to be used for 

official purposes by all the local authorities within the State of Karnataka.

WHEREAS by Karnataka Act 26 of 1963, Kannada was declared as the official 

Language of the State;

WHEREAS by Notification No. DPAR 29 PCL 79 , dated 4th March 1980, the 

Government of Karnataka notified that Kannada shall be used for all official purposes by all State Government offices throughout the State;

WHEREAS it is expedient to provide for the use of Kannada for all official purposes by 

the local authorities in the State;

BE it enacted by the Karnataka State legislature in the Thirty second year of the 

Republic of India as follows:- 1. Short title.- This Act may be called the Karnataka Local Authorities (Official Language) Act, 1981. 2. Kannada to be the official language of all the local authorities.-The official language of all the local authorities in the State of Karnataka shall be Kannada:

Provided that,- 
(a) the English language may be used in communications,- 
(i) addressed to the Central Government offices, offices of other State 

Governments, and the Accountant General;

(ii) relating to orders made under any law which are subject to appeal or revision 

by any authority.

(iii) addressed to courts other than village courts; 
(iv) where the English language cannot be dispensed with due to administrative 

reasons or where such communications are purely technical and scientific in nature;

(b) if the population of a linguistic minority within the area of operation of such local 

authority is not less than fifteen percent.-

(i) petitions shall be accepted in the language of such minority and as far as 

possible replies thereto shall be given in that language;

(ii) hand-outs and publicity material shall also be given in the language of such 

minority;

(iii) notices of the local authorities shall also be published in the language of 

such minority. Explanation.- In this section, 'local authority" includes a statutory corporation established by or under a law made by the State Legislature with respect to any of the matters enumerated in List II of the Seventh schedule to the Constitution, and a co- operative society registered under the Karnataka Co-operative Societies Act, 1959 (Karnataka Act 11 of 1959)

• • • • • Truth trumps (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

It is clear that english can be used for any official communication. Truth trumps (talk) 21:17, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Request to add Regional Languages of Karnataka

I have added Major regional languages in the InfoBox.i.e. Tulu,Kodava,Konkani,Beary Which was reverted saying there are no "Official regional languages" in K'taka. Unlike other languages like Telugu, Tamil which are spoken by the people who (or whose ancestors) moved to Karnataka from neighboring states, Above mentioned regional languages are native to Karnataka or spoken b y native people.

Inviting @Thomas.W: for discussion:

Let's have a discussion on this!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.216.154.139 (talk • contribs)

• A) only officially recognised languages belong in the infobox, and B) other non-official languages are far more widely spoken in Karnataka than the ones you added. According to the official Government of India report on minority languages the most widely spoken languages in Karnataka are: Kannada 34,838,035 speakers (65.92%), Urdu 5,539,910 speakers (10.48%), Telugu 3,698,657 speakers (7.00%), Marathi 1,892,783 speakers (3.58%) and Tamil 1,874,959 speakers (3.55%). So why did you choose Tulu, Kodava, Konkani and Beary, but not Urdu, Telugu, Marathi and Tamil? - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 14:43, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

@Thomas.W: Well let me answer your questions one by one.
A) only officially recognised languages belong in the infobox
Answer: If InfoBox was all about official stuff, How Bangalore is still there when it's not the official name?
B)other non-official languages are far more widely spoken in Karnataka than the ones you added. According to the official Government of India report on minority languages the most widely spoken languages in Karnataka are: Kannada 34,838,035 speakers (65.92%), Urdu 5,539,910 speakers (10.48%), Telugu 3,698,657 speakers (7.00%), Marathi 1,892,783 speakers (3.58%) and Tamil 1,874,959 speakers (3.55%). So why did you choose Tulu, Kodava, Konkani and Beary, but not Urdu, Telugu, Marathi and Tamil?
Answer: FYKI, I have never mentioned them as "widely" spoken. Regarding Telugu, Tamil etc I have already answered your question in my original post. Let me quote again "Unlike other languages like Telugu, Tamil which are spoken by the people who (or whose ancestors) moved to Karnataka from neighboring states, Above mentioned regional languages are native to Karnataka or spoken by the native people."
May be you should visit individual wiki pages of these languages and check the origin and later do the same for Telugu, Tamil, Urdu etc.
I am sure you know the difference between (Telugu/Tamil/Urdu/Marati) vs (Tulu/Kodava/Konkani/Beary). It is not about the numbers it is about the origin. I'm afraid if you go by numbers Mandarin(Chinese) would be a regional language of the United States!!

Points to add: Karnataka government has separate academy for Tulu Tulu Academy,Konkani Academy "Beary Academy"

Can you give me any ref where Karnataka Govt. has academies for other languages such as Telugu, Tamil, Marati?

Update on the statistics on economy

Hello Wikipedians. The statistics under the section 'economy' are outdated by almost a decade. I have collated the latest available figures except for the inflation rate, which have been difficult to find. Need your opinion on whether I should update the same. Vignyana (talk) 08:52, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Pages: Tulu,Kodava,Konkani

This paragraph needs improvement(Cities,districts have been mixed in the explanation )

At the 2011 census, Karnataka's ten largest cities, sorted in order of decreasing population, were Bangalore, Hubballi-Dharwad, Mysuru, Gulbarga, Mangaluru, Belagavi, Davangere, Ballary, Vijayapur and Shivamogga. Bangalore Urban, Belagavi and Mysore were the most populous districts, each of them having a population of more than three million. Bangalore Rural and Kodagu districts had a population of less than one million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy sage (talk • contribs) 07:40, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Latest data requested

GDP growth,Sectoral break up of GDP are all a decade old. Newer data is requested for the graphical representations.

Happy sage (talk) 07:52, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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Demonym

I've reverted an IP editor who attempted to add Tuluva and Kodava as demonyms to the infobox. The current value for the demonym is Kannadiga, which appears to refer to Kannada ethnicity rather than to the state of Karnataka. List of adjectives and demonyms for states and territories of India gives several options (including the archaic "Carnatic") but none of them are sourced. Any thoughts as to the correct way to handle this? power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding Images to the Symbols

Hello, I strongly believe that adding images to the state symbols like Gandaberunda in the infobox would be great. Can I get your honest opinions on this.TheUnbeatable (talk) 04:29, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Reiterating my point for the benefit of other editors, I feel that the addition of pictures adds very little in terms of recognizability of symbols but hurts readability as every item will be split into multiple lines. If visual identification is required, the reader can visit the linked page to see pictures. With the introduction of page previews, you can also hover over links to see a much larger picture while browsing from a desktop or a laptop. —Gazoth (talk) 15:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

The edit being discussed is this. —Gazoth (talk) 15:57, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

South vs Western India

Can we discuss here regarding the new claim ? Shrikanthv (talk) 12:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Shrikanthv: It is not "South vs West" as you put it. It is about the inclusion of the word western in the lede as in this text: a state considered to be part of southern and western India which I had edited in here is reliably sourced since the Ministry of Minority Affairs includes Karnataka in its 'Western Zone'. Check this. On the contrary, I didn't find any source in the article which supports the phrase: south western region. And kindly ping me. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Shrikanthv: Hello? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:07, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Karnataka for deletion

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The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Karnataka until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

"Digland" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Digland. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. – Uanfala (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

This Featured Article lacks citations for many statements in various sections

Hi,
Although considered to be a WP:Featured Article, this article is lacking citations for many statements in various sections (WP:FA 2c). In fact, not only are citations missing for many statements, but the citation format also isn't matching as per the Featured Article guidelines (WP:citing sources). Hence the Refimprove tag is added to this article. — Aviator423 (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Aviator423, I'm not seeing the problem - on a quick scan through, I do see one or two unsourced sentences, which aren't adding much and might be removed, but I don't know that's is bad enough to warrant that tag. Would you be able to expand on your concerns - which sections / assertions are you worried about? GirthSummit _(blether) 13:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi GirthSummit _(blether),

Thanks for the reply.

I have listed below the statements lacking citations in just the first 2 sections of this Featured Article. The subsequent sections also follow the same pattern but the list is too long to be mentioned for the entire article.

1. History section

• "Evidence of neolithic and megalithic cultures have also been found in the state"
• "The decline of Satavahana power led to the rise of the earliest native kingdoms, the Kadambas and the Western Gangas, marking the region's emergence as an independent political entity."
• "As the 'doctrine of lapse' gave way to dissent and resistance from princely states across the country, Kittur Chennamma, Sangolli Rayanna and others spearheaded rebellions in Karnataka in 1830, nearly three decades before the Indian Rebellion of 1857."
• "Other uprisings followed, such as the ones at Supa, Bagalkot, Shorapur, Nargund and Dandeli. These rebellions—which coincided with the Indian Rebellion of 1857—were led by Mundargi Bhimarao, Bhaskar Rao Bhave, the Halagali Bedas, Raja Venkatappa Nayaka and others."
• "In the early 1900s through the post-independence era, industrial visionaries such as Sir Mokshagundam Visvesvarayya, born in Muddenahalli, Chikballapur district, played an important role in the development of Karnataka's strong manufacturing and industrial base."

2. Geography section

• "The state has three principal geographical zones:"
• "The highest point in Karnataka is the Mullayanagiri hills in Chikmagalur district which has an altitude of 1,925 metres (6,316 ft)."
• "Some of the important rivers in Karnataka are Kaveri, Tungabhadra, Krishna, Malaprabha and the Sharavathi."
• "A large number of dams and reservoirs are constructed across these rivers which richly add to the irrigation and hydel power generation capacities of the state. "
• "Depending on the agricultural capability of the soil, the soil types are divided into six types, viz. red, lateritic, black, alluvio-colluvial, forest and coastal soils. "
• "Western Ghats of India has of the rarest and unique collections of flora and fauna. "
• "Karnataka is divided into three zones — coastal, north interior and south interior. Of these, the coastal zone receives the heaviest rainfall with an average rainfall of about 3,638.5 mm (143 in) per annum, far in excess of the state average of 1,139 mm (45 in)."
• "the monsoon season between June and September" (Note: This isn't applicable to eastern places like Bangalore, Chikkaballapura and Kolar that have 2 monsoon seasons. Their 2nd monsoon season is from October to December)
• "The highest recorded temperature was 45.6 °C (114 °F) in Raichuru district. The lowest recorded temperature was 2.8 °C (37 °F) at Bidar district. "
• "The districts are further divided into sub-districts (talukas), which are governed by sub-commissioners (talukdars); sub-divisions comprise blocks (tehsils/hobli), which are governed by block development officers (tehsildars), which contain village councils (panchayats), town municipal councils (purasabhe), city municipal councils (nagarasabhe), and city municipal corporations (mahanagara palike)." (Note: the table following this statement is also unsourced)

As mentioned earlier, I have listed the missing citations for statements in just the first 2 sections. The list is too long to mention for the entire article, and there are many more unsourced statements in the subsequent sections. Kindly note that this is a WP:Featured Article. And it's not just about missing citations, even the citation format needs to be accurate for FA (WP:citing sources).

For your information, having cited statements is one of the main necessities for a WP:Good Article, and Featured Articles are considered to be of much better quality than a GA. – Aviator423 (talk) 14:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Aviator423, yes, thanks I kind of know what the requirements for GAs and FAs are (sneak a look at my userpage bling) - this article was assessed for FA back in 2007, I won't be surprised if a bit of crud has accumulated since then, or if it would fail FAR now. I was just concerned that sticking a tag on without expanding on your concerns wouldn't help fix the problem. At least now editors have some specific things to go looking for - thanks for listing them. GirthSummit _(blether) 15:35, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

south south Indian sister states

The lede states that Karnataka is "the only southern state to have land borders with all of the other 4 south south Indian sister states." My instinct is to say "the other 4 southern Indian sister states", but there may be some other variable in play here, so I'm pointing it out rather than making the change. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 06:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Your point is valid. You can edit if you want to. Thanks.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣ 06:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2021

Please add name Sir Mirza Ismail who contributed immensely for the growth of Karnataka. 5.31.184.118 (talk) 18:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – robertsky (talk) 18:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2021

The article quoted in the Economy section ( A BloombergQuint article argues Karnataka to be India's most prosperous state citing many reasons.) is a sponsored feature. It may not be a product of objective analysis of the subject or true opinion of the writer (of the article). Requesting that this line be removed. Reddy.sea (talk) 18:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:35, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

GA for the page

Im looking for people to help this page get to GA status as it was demoted from FA, I am hoping to get this page up to GA and then FA, Please reply if anyone is a frequent contributor of this page as I would like to work together as this page has quite a lot of sentimental value for me. Anyone who is a frequent contributor of this page, Please reply.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2021

Updated the GSDP FIGURES in the infobox and lead section. GSDP ₹16.65 LAKH CRORE AND per capita ₹226,796 (2020-21). Also update the source. Also restructure the sentense in the lead section like "has the country's 7th-highest GSDP per capita of ₹226,796".--202.78.236.168 (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

References

 Note: See similar request at Talk:Kerala#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_27_May_2021 Run n Fly (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

@Run n Fly: Yes whats the big deal about it ?! All you've to update the figures and add source. That's All.--202.78.236.168 (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I have provided the link so that the next volunteer can review it both simultaneously and take the decision whether to accept or decline. Run n Fly (talk) 17:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thanks, Clearfrienda ^💬 14:40, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Why is it taking so time to make such small changes in the GDP figures. Already source have been provided. Thanks--103.102.116.116 (talk) 05:32, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Opal|zukor^(discuss) 08:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2021

Updated the GSDP FIGURES in the infobox and lead section. GSDP from ₹16.99 trillion TO ₹16.65 trillion AND per capita from ₹231,246 TO ₹ 226,796 (2020-21). Also update the source. Thanks--103.102.116.116 (talk) 05:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Uanfala: Please update. Thanks--103.102.116.116 (talk) 08:40, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:55, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

References

Representative pictures

It seems a bit odd to me to have a page about a modern Indian state that in its photos has multiple ancient temples but no evidence of modern civilization, especially considering the state in question contains Bangalore, the IT capital of India. Perhaps replacing the photo of the dancer with a photo of Bangalore's skyline might be more representative of the state? -Kez (talk) 10:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion

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Karnataka Wiki Page for GA/FA

I feel that this page is deserving of GA and also a eventual FA. I would like to thank all members who have contributed to this page. It needs some work so it would be greatly helpful if someone could give their brief feedback on this page so that we can make it to GA/ FA status. EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 01:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Karnataka/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kpddg (talk · contribs) 05:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I will review this article. Please tell me if there are any problems. Thank You. Kpddg (talk) 05:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Alright, Thanks for reviewing this article. Please do inform me of any shortcomings in the article which will be corrected. EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 06:31, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I will start soon. Kpddg (talk) 09:54, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Basic Article Information

● Page Size: 135,708 bytes
● Page Created On: Ist October, 2001
● Number of Edits: 6,878
● Edits in Past 30 days: 26
● This article was previously a featured article. However, it was delisted a year ago and was not even considered as a good article. @EpicSnek , hope know the reasons for this a and that the article is better now.
Kpddg ^(talk) 10:42, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Section-wise Assessment

@ EpicSnek , there will be several corrections in the article. You can help with correcting them.

Lead Section

● The lead section is very well-written. There are no grammatical errors, sentence constrction errors, typos, etc.
● There is info like 'Karnataka is the sixth largest state', etc. etc. Could any recent reliable sources be provided just to back all such statements?
● Images are clear with no copyright violations

I have Edited the page to include data from the most recent census that had the information and I also revised some numbers which were not corresponding with the census data. EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 02:40, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

History

● Again, this is written very well
● Harihara is wrongly linked (this is the correct link). Please relink correctly.
● In the last line, about Vishveshwaraya, just mentioning him is enough. No need to write about birthplace, which readers can get to know by clinking on his link.
● I believe that the Vijaynagara dynasty was one of the most important dynasty, and everything flourished under Krishnadevaraya's rule. However, such an important ruler has not been mentioned anywhere in the article.
● File:Mallikarjuna and Kasivisvanatha temples at Pattadakal.jpg - Image is fine

I have removed the unnecessary information and added some information on [Krishnadevaraya]]. Please give me through feedback on the Krishnadevaraya section.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:05, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

@EpicSnek , the section is very good. Thanks for the corrections. Kpddg ^(talk) 06:48, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

● One more thing, Kempegowda, the founder and builder of Bengaluru, Karnataka's capital, who is a widely celebrated figure, has not been mentioned as well.

I have added Kempe Gowda I. EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Geography

● Written well; broad in its coverage
● Please provide recent sources for the last para which contains stats
● Image is good; could it be placed in a better position?

I have cited the forest survey of india in which such data is available. I have also moved the picture to reflect the page better. Kpddg Please give feedback on the page so I can improve it. ThanksEpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:16, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Great. However, there seems to be an error in reference 64. Are you able to fix that @EpicSnek ? Kpddg ^(talk) 06:50, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I have resolved the issue of citation.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Climate

● Informative, well-written
● Could you confirm if the stats are up to date?

I can confirm that the stats show the most accurate information up to date. The stats given on the page are record statistics hence, they were added to the page.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Sub-divisions

● Good

Demographics

● First para is fine
● Most sources are from 2007. Needs update
● The city-population table is covering content

I have moved the city-population table and fixed some issues.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Government & Administration

● Shift the image to the right or left side, it will look better
● Though sources are old, content is still relevant

Economy

● This section needs a lot of updates. Most info is about 2007, including charts. Some are about 2015, which is okay. But the 2007 ones need to be updated to more recent levels.

I have added citations that contain newer info. The banking part is still accurate even though it older.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:23, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Transport

● Update info and references 106, 110, and 119

Have added citations. The work for new airpots is still ongoing.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:23, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Culture

● Well-written and broad in coverage

Religion & Festivals

● Fine

Language

● Great section

Education

● Update line with source 147
● Fine otherwise

Have added citations from 2011 and shortened the line so as to remove useless info.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Media

● Informative

Sports

● Great 👍

Flora & Fauna

● Broad & Informative
● But sources are old; kindly update

Removed unsubstantiated info added more citations to back up the info given. (Need Feedback)EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Tourism

● Same problem: Info containing stats have old references, of 2007
● Images are good

Fixed issue of old citations. All information is correct in the section. Added newer citationsEpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Hold Status

Article put  On hold for a period of 5 days. Please work on all the corrections. Then it can be decided whether to nominate to good article status. Thank You EpicSnek .

Kpddg Please review my edits and get back to me.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks EpicSnek for the corrections. However, there are a few minor changes which I feel would help:
● Fix Reference 65
● In Flora & Fauna, it says that 'Karnataka has 38,720 km2 forest area', etc. The source is from 2007. Are the figures still the same?
● Economy figures and statistics keep changing. Most sources are from 10 yrs back. Add recent sources and update info if possible. The charts are also old.
● The image 'Norwegian Star' only shows the ship. It does not give any different portrayal of Karnataka. I feel it can be removed or replaced with a better one.
Otherwise, the article is good. Thank You.
Kpddg ^(talk) 07:23, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Final Decision

Thanks to all article contributors and EpicSnek . I made a few changes too and article looks fine.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass:
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This article is  Passed --2022-01-01T18:59:33‎(IST) Kpddg

Musician

Musician Basavaraj S Hugar (talk) 18:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

That's your User page, not a Wikipedia article which is the requirement for inclusion - Arjayay (talk) 19:23, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Update GDP (Total & Per Capita)

Please update GSDP and Per capita figures (2020-21) as per Source [5] (Government of India). GDP should be (15.11 lakh crore) and Per capita (226796). Please note you need in update both in Infobox and main Lead para of the article. Remove old sources and add current sources. Thanks--115.98.91.244 (talk) 13:42, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done Itcouldbepossible^Talk 06:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Lot's of vandalism in recent times & removal of Tulu, Kodava related info

There have been people trying vandalise by adding irrelevant information related to Kodava flags and stuff. While reverting these vandalism some are intensionally deleting the valid information related to Tulu, Kodava languages especially when it comes to these languages being part of regional languages along with the official language on the infobox.

Please fight your online wars on social media and not here

CodePanda (talk) 18:24, 17 October 2022 (UTC)