Talk:Joseph Quinn (actor)
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Information sourced from IMDb
editI have removed all info relating to his supposed date of birth. This has long-been a contentious point, with many editors changing without any reliable sources. Looking at the IMDb profile, it's clear that copy has been lifted from Wikipedia, or vice versa ("In 2022, he was introduced to wider audiences as Eddie Munson in Season 4 of Stranger Things. He has also had supporting roles in the BBC series Les Misérables and Strike".) Just these two lede sentences, appearing verbatim, is enough to prove the point (WP:CIRCULAR). IMDb biography by "Anonymous". IMDb is user-generated by members of the public.
To me, it doesn't matter exactly what his birth date/year is. The article can do without it.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 14:49, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- Vanity Fair is a reliable source? [1] It gives age, and I can add approximate birth year into the article. 🌊PacificDepthstalk|contrib 18:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- That illustrates the problem; some give 28, others 29, so they're not encyclopedic:
- These two examples are from something I roughed out 10 hours ago from links in the Seventeen inclusion into the article (news aggregator and scraper site). Per WP:NOW and WP:SYNTH Wikipedia should not be extrapolating that one is better than (an)other(s) when sources are conflicting and inconclusive.-Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- The Vulture source [2] is a direct interview of the subject and seems authoritative. It can be consistent that the Vanity Fair source [[3]] (28 May 2022) says 28 (and with publication delays it could be that the article was written earlier than the purported 15 May birthday), and the Vulture source (11 June 2022) says 29, suggesting a birthday in May or June. What do you think about putting in as age 28 or 29, implying a birth year of 1993 or 1994? All sources agree on that.
- I think the age is noteworthy because the age difference between the subject and the role does come up in some of the sources ("You’re a 29-year-old British lad playing an American teenager. How did you prepare for such an acting challenge physically and vocally?").
- I agree that IMDb is not be a reliable source because it appears to be a copy of the Wikipedia lead section. 🌊PacificDepthstalk|contrib 03:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think whatever appears on Wiki will inevitably be circular, with webwriters plagiarising webwriters, and could be infuriating to the IPs and new SPAs, witnessed by the latest edit request (16 Aug). Nothing is distinct-enough and looking at his schooldays, to try to approximate (that he was at school until age 18, in 2012) is a type of Synth. I rechecked the birth sources and there's nothing close under that name (by close, meaning wrong quarter of the year(s), 15 May being in the second quarter - normally civil registration would be during that month).--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 10:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- I looked for more sources and found one more from 2019, Glass Magazine:
- > Now, at only 25, the actor has major productions under his belt including Catherine the Great, Death Watch, Les Miserables, Dickensian…
- I think this article (again an interview w/ the subject) helps tilt the balance of evidence towards 1993/1994 birth year. What do you think? 🌊PacificDepthstalk|contrib 19:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies for not getting to this sooner, PacificDepths - I have been off-Wiki for a few days but not forgotten about the various aspects I am working on without logging in. I appreciate that there's a criterion of an older actor portraying a younger person to be considered. I am at a loss, however, to suggest which source is more accurate than another.
- I think whatever appears on Wiki will inevitably be circular, with webwriters plagiarising webwriters, and could be infuriating to the IPs and new SPAs, witnessed by the latest edit request (16 Aug). Nothing is distinct-enough and looking at his schooldays, to try to approximate (that he was at school until age 18, in 2012) is a type of Synth. I rechecked the birth sources and there's nothing close under that name (by close, meaning wrong quarter of the year(s), 15 May being in the second quarter - normally civil registration would be during that month).--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 10:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- These two examples are from something I roughed out 10 hours ago from links in the Seventeen inclusion into the article (news aggregator and scraper site). Per WP:NOW and WP:SYNTH Wikipedia should not be extrapolating that one is better than (an)other(s) when sources are conflicting and inconclusive.-Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- One thing it reminded me of is that of a replacement actress who is (now) 24 portraying an 18 year old in a strong story line. This is covered here and checking her birth detail reveals two contenders, but neither are registered in Wigan, as stated in the newspaper article. I'd seen her on local television, just before her debut was aired (about six weeks lead time). She doesn't have a wiki-bio .--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:33, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 July 2022
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Stranger Things Stuntbacon (talk) 20:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 July 2022
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As stated in this interview https://youtube.com/3Yp4q7_4ZJA at minute 17:20, Joseph is 28 years old. His old Twitter account acknowledged by his father was @joequinn94 , confirming that Joseph was born in 1994 , not 1993 as stated on this page. 2600:1014:B124:F9AE:E097:3FBC:8D98:4A70 (talk) 05:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Youtube isn't a reliable source, and it looks like we don't have a source for Quinn's birth date. I can't find any mention of 1993 on the page, it's even categorized as "year of birth unknown" - if we can find a more reliable source, that would help. Thanks! ASUKITE 16:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I changed the maintenance template to 'year of birth unknown'. This situation has erupted even more since the events in London recently which can be Googled as have gone viral with various mainstream media picking up. I couldn't find anything for his birth within the usual sources for births, marriages and deaths. Mostly it is just personal blogs, message boards, fanzones and rumour. I feel ashamed that I don't know what Joseph Quinn fandom and Unilad are .--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well as was said, Joseph was born in 1994, he said in a interview that was sent above, i can't understand why youtube isn't a reliable source, since Joseph in person said his birth date, i don't see sense in not include that information. Monsuntering (talk) 00:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- There isn't any confirmation that it is his real name - could be a stage name.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 11:28, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Performers notoriously lie through their teeth about details of their biographies, not least their ages. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:54, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I changed the maintenance template to 'year of birth unknown'. This situation has erupted even more since the events in London recently which can be Googled as have gone viral with various mainstream media picking up. I couldn't find anything for his birth within the usual sources for births, marriages and deaths. Mostly it is just personal blogs, message boards, fanzones and rumour. I feel ashamed that I don't know what Joseph Quinn fandom and Unilad are .--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
8 not 9
editJoseph is in 8 episodes of ‘stranger things season 4’ He isn’t in “episode 4; titled “Dear Billy” So you need to change that he is is ‘9 episodes to 8 episodes’ 213.236.161.72 (talk) 16:01, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Joseph Quinn's birthday is May 15, 1994. He is 28 years old. Cnispunk (talk) 18:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Cnispunk - as I stated above, there is no confirmation it is even his real name. Speculation and internet gossip proves nothing.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:26, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 July 2022
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remove the word "recurring" and "nine episodes" from role as Eddie Munson info, imdb lists as "starring" and "8 episodes" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4574334/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm Lolcakes45 (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDb is user generated and not considered a reliable source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 July 2022
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change profile photo to https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYkWrBXWIAI7KNd.jpg:medium Giuliagiovana (talk) 16:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: We can't steal copyrighted images just because someone Tweeted them. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:56, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Protection level
editI'm confused about the Extended-confirmed protetcion level on this page, it seems very extreme for a seemingly uncontroversial public figure. I thought extended-confirmed was reserved for pages that were the subject of serious controversy and edit wars. Can someone else me understand? I can't find the log of exactly when/why this decision was made. April Jennifer (she/her • talk • contributions) 01:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you trawl through the recent history you'll see mostly IPs adding/changing = warring and synthesising from interviews over his supposed date of birth (fanzone stuff). There is no confirmation it's even his real name.
- I arrived here by chance as I know the young lady who figured prominently in the viral reports that were subsequently picked up by worldwide mainstream media. That's quietening down, now, post-Comic Con; or is it? 25 July, 26 July. I'd not known him or of his acting previousy. This change was effected by a registered editor who continued the un-cited changes, and failed to respond here.
- I will be watching with interest now the protection has been removed.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 14:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- The protection was added 10 July, after I had removed the infobox parameters.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 16:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that proves it - just a few hours, firstly IP sloppiness, then earwigo again - novice editor, followed by IP adding/changing supposed/conflicting birth details.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don’t mind if it is semi protected, my point was that it never needed to be extended protected. The original purpose of that protection level was for extreme cases. an edit war over a birthday is annoying but it’s not that extreme. April Jennifer (she/her • talk • contributions) 00:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The continuing flurry of activity by IPs and SPAs belies, as does the global distribution, your assertion that he is
a seemingly uncontroversial public figure
. The absence of protection mandates the continuing fanzone changes. As I stated above, I couldn't find any matches for the alleged name/birth details for May 1993 or 1994. Orangemike chose the level, so comment would be helpful.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 00:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)- Disagreement over whether he was born in 93 or 94 doesn’t make him controversial. It is an incredibly low stakes disagreement. Overdose use of EP goes against the principle of Wikipedia being an open place where anyone can contribute without elitism. If EP is used on every page where there is any disagreement, users like me who are moderately keen hobby editors that don’t have 500 edits yet get locked out of contributing to a lot of articles. April Jennifer (she/her • talk • contributions) 00:29, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The continuing flurry of activity by IPs and SPAs belies, as does the global distribution, your assertion that he is
- I don’t mind if it is semi protected, my point was that it never needed to be extended protected. The original purpose of that protection level was for extreme cases. an edit war over a birthday is annoying but it’s not that extreme. April Jennifer (she/her • talk • contributions) 00:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that proves it - just a few hours, firstly IP sloppiness, then earwigo again - novice editor, followed by IP adding/changing supposed/conflicting birth details.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Alleged birth details
editAn editor added content derived from a Seventeen source (in this change) that quotes his alleged birth date as 15 May 1993. I consider this website to be a type of news aggregator (or scraper site) and is likely not reliable. There is no confirmation that this publication actually interviewed Quinn.
The cited article contains links to the following as original source material:
- Nuit - no mention
- LAMDA - abridged bio that links to IMDb for full version
- Vulture - "You’re a 29-year-old British lad..."
- Seventeen - " Per IMDB, the 29-year-old actor..."
- The Hollywood Reporter - no mention
- Entertainment Tonight "As Eddie, the 29 year-old British actor..."
- The Hollywood Reporter no mention
The most telling of these above is Seventeen's own admission of using IMDb "Per IMDb, the 29-year-old actor...".
As we know, IMDb is open-sourced, meaning a member of the public likely wrote the birth detail. Or it could have been Quinn himself, if that's his name. Website writers can use any source, including wikis; I first encountered plagiarism within publishers in 1980. I've not been able to verify his birth details via the usual free UK websources, and there's no certainty it's even his own name. I hope this list above is about right, as I'm very busy off-Wiki and have not checked as thoroughly as I should've.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- The editor that made that change was me, sorry! I didn't know the history. Discussion happening elsewhere on the talk page, under "Information_sourced_from_IMDb": [4] 🌊PacificDepthstalk|contrib 19:25, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2022
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Birthdate 15th May 1993 Natapanthus8 (talk) 22:16, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Birth Date
editIn a video, with Jamie Bower, Joesph said he was born in 1993. 67.193.208.33 (talk) 19:42, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is a general purpose encyclopedia and can only rely upon bona fide publications - they are supposed to do due diligence and write responsibly. With the rise of internet-based new media and clickbait, this may now be less of a priority. There is no confirmation it's even his real name. I cannot find any birth detail linking that name with May 1993 or May 1994 and London or South London. Publications are quoting both years. The main problem is that people refer to his IMDb listing which is open-sourced, meaning written by any member(s) of the public.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 16:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
There is no confirmation it's even his real name. I cannot find any birth detail linking that name with May 1993 or May 1994 and London or South London.
- Actually this is false. One of the actual sources active right now on this article links to an official page of the Emanuel_School (located in London where he said he's born) that talks about him referring him as "Joe Quinn" (Joe is the abbreviation of Joseph Joe_(given_name)), with a picture of him[1]. Such prestigious school have no reasons to fake this information.
- Please, be careful with your personal beliefs influencing your contributions.
- Thank you. Koala Wiki (talk) 08:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- As I stated, Koala Wiki, there is no correlation in any birth records for that name and the alleged 15 May, either 1993 or 1994. As you have only a handful of mainspace edits over a lengthy period, please be aware that a school site relating to the achievements of various pupils is not reliable, and is not historical. It merely indicates that is how he is referred to, as Joe.
- Families/individuals come together and children adopt a name they were not given at birth; similarly see Suranne Jones, who had to change her stage name due to Equity requirements.
- The image you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons from Instagram was copyrighted, and has been speedy-deleted. Please, be careful with your personal beliefs influencing your contributions. The landing page clearly has a footer-annotation "© 2022 Instagram from Meta". An identical image has just been through a deletion discussion and was deleted; editors can see the discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Joe Quinn.jpg. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 17:16, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- As a post-script to this, I have become aware of Carly Paoli. I have traced her real-life given name, and the UK records show she is using her mother's maiden name (Paoli).--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 19:54, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Please, be careful with your personal beliefs influencing your contributions..
- Very mature response repeat what I said.(irony) This makes me have serious concerns, but whatever...
- -
- All articles prior fame says that Quinn was 23 year old in 2017, this mean he's born in 1994.
- 30 July 2017 Source
And there is 23-year-old Joseph Quinn.
- 07 September 2017 Source
After a stint at LAMDA, the 23-year-old played Arthur Havisham in the BBC’s Dickensian in 2016 and the period drama work continues later in the year when he’ll play poor Leonard Bast in Kenneth Lonegarn’s adaptation of EM Forster’s classic Howard’s End.
- 01 December 2017 Source
With A-list TV already on his CV, stardom beckons for this 23-year-old Londoner.
- Also Quinn himself with his own voice claimed in an interview in Brazil made 1 month ago (08 July 2022) that he's 28 (1994) Source (minute 17:10).
- Seem pretty consistent.
- About the family name I'm not sure. His father, a movie director have the same family name, tho, I heard his family name may be just a little different, but still a rumor so not trustworthy. Koala Wiki (talk) 11:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Rocknrollmancer and Koala Wiki: The fan video making the rounds today has Quinn saying that he is an Aquarius and his birthday is 26 January. He even says "I don't know why people think I'm a Taurus". That would mean a 1994 birth year based on sources that reported his age. I wish we had a better source, but I think this satisfies WP:ABOUTSELF. gobonobo + c 00:41, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Mr. Quinn sometimes troll his own fans. The video is from one source and Quinn didn't know that he was being recorded so probably just wanted to joke. He also hesitates before answer. So it's not a reliable source. Koala Wiki (talk) 01:42, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Rocknrollmancer and Koala Wiki: The fan video making the rounds today has Quinn saying that he is an Aquarius and his birthday is 26 January. He even says "I don't know why people think I'm a Taurus". That would mean a 1994 birth year based on sources that reported his age. I wish we had a better source, but I think this satisfies WP:ABOUTSELF. gobonobo + c 00:41, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2022
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His date of birth is 26/01/93 89.240.166.43 (talk) 22:21, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Terasail[✉️] 22:24, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2022 (2)
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Joseph Quinn was born January 26th 1994
Confirmed here :
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChvJqROjfZn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= 78.146.64.76 (talk) 23:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Mr. Quinn sometimes troll his own fans. The video is from one source and Quinn didn't know that he was being recorded so probably just wanted to joke. He also hesitates before answer. So it's not a reliable source. Koala Wiki (talk) 01:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2022
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It has been confirmed by himself in a recent video that Joseph Quinn's birthday falls on the 26th of January.
Source: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNvrBw57/ 88.83.4.4 (talk) 00:46, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Mr. Quinn sometimes troll his own fans. The video is from one source and Quinn didn't know that he was being recorded so probably just wanted to joke. He also hesitates before answer. So it's not a reliable source. Koala Wiki (talk) 01:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2022 (2)
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Change Joseph’s birthday to January 26, 1994. He confirmed this today in a video taken by a fan at the Canada FanExpo. 118.211.66.9 (talk) 08:44, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - he - and his agent - must be loving all this fanzone furore which is ongoing for weeks now. It will no doubt add to his stock value.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 09:31, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: It's a request that has already been made by 3 people and got rejected, please check above if the request has been already answered. Motivation: Mr. Quinn sometimes troll his own fans. The video is from one source and Quinn didn't know that he was being recorded so probably just wanted to joke. He also hesitates before answer. So it's not a reliable source. Koala Wiki (talk) 09:40, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2022
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Birthday has been confirmed by the actor himself as January 26th, 1994. Was confirmed during FanExpo Canada 2022. Full name has been confirmed by the actor himself as Joseph Anthony Francis Quinn. Was confirmed during FanExpo Canada 2022. Deanels (talk) 00:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2022 (2)
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Joseph Quinn was born on 29th January. His full name is Joseph Antony Francis Quinn 2001:8A0:DBC8:3700:CD0E:33B9:222B:E68E (talk) 10:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: There are no proof where he confirms that name. Please give a reliable source. Koala Wiki (talk) 11:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2022 (3)
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Change Joseph Quinn's birthday to January 26th. Joseph's correct birthday is January 26th 1994. He will be 29 in 2023. This was stated by him on August 27th 2022. 67.140.214.128 (talk) 17:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 18:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2022
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I would like to edit Joseph Quinn's wikipedia to add his correct and accurate date of birth, which is January 26, 1994.He himself confirmed this date.Anna M. Quinn (talk) 01:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Anna M. Quinn Not done: It has been already asked, many times, but no one gives a proof of it. And a video recorded with a hidden camera it's not one. Please provide reliable sources. Koala Wiki (talk) 05:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2022 (2)
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Date of birth: 26th January 1994 [1] 68.196.4.10 (talk) 03:26, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: It has been already asked, many times, but no one gives a good source for it. And a video recorded with a hidden camera it's not one. Also, few times Quinn trolled his fans. Please provide reliable sources. Koala Wiki (talk) 05:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
References
Disagreement about extended protection
edit1 or 2 "vandalism" a day are not severe enough to make the page extended protected.
- I know should be none, but for such mild edit war semiprotection is enough.
- I find this very excessive.
Koala Wiki (talk) 08:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- The article was protected due to persistent BLP violations, not vandalism, as noted in the protection log. Semi-protection was recently attempted but was ineffective due to a number of editors who barely meet autoconfirmed continuing to edit war over a contested WP:DOB. When semi-protection proves insufficient, extended protection is the next level of protection available. The edit request template (
{{Edit extended-protected}}
) can be used by anyone not currently able to edit the article directly.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Joseph Quinn’s actual birthday
editAt Fan Expo Canada 2022, Joseph told one fan that he is an Aquarius. If he is an Aquarius, then his birthday cannot be May 15th, 1993. Also, at another event he has stated that he is only 28 years old, not 29. Not 100% sure where he stated that information but it is true he was born in 1994. All of the media outlets, except for google, have his wrong birthday online. Almost every single website has false information! Again at Fan Expo Canada, when being asked about his birthday he said, “I don’t know why people think I’m a Taurus,” he then goes on to state his actual birthday. The video is courtesy of fan @munsonsvinyl on TikTok. The video has been reuploaded many times on TikTok, where it can be found. He shares a birthday with Eddie Van Halen; although, they were born in different years! I think it’s important that people know his actual information and not a fake date! - <3 H 71.215.23.13 (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- All of it has been already brought up. Munsonsvinyl secretly recorded him with their phone, this is not a reliable source.
- During autograph sessions and photo op he cracked a lot of jokes. We actually have nothing trustful enough to call it "Joseph Quinn’s actual birthday".
- And by the way, the article doesn't have a specific date because, for now, it's too controversial. Koala Wiki (talk) 15:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Original Poster - this has now been ongoing for months; all starting with non-regular editors in May 2022 adding essentially fiction. Soon after, a regular editor changed the format into template-fashion, instead of deleting it as WP:UNSOURCED.
- I removed the dates, etc., in entirety back to blank, and another editor later restored incorporating the vagueness of two different years 1993/94, on the basis that there could be an argument that it was an important content in the article that a near-30 year old was cast as teenager Eddie Munson. I don't agree that one topical television role should be allowed to cause so much disruption to the regular editors who have to pick up the pieces.
- The video has garbled sound, and I myself cannot hear any year mentioned? Moreover, his face cannot be seen mouthing those words being attributed to him. This type of non-genuine (@munsonsvinyl) Twitter account is not acceptable within Wikipedia, and even if Wikipedia was to cave in to fanzone-pressure, it would be a type of WP:SYNTHESIS - being a conclusion that is not supported by the content of the conversation.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Please,kindly leave my source
edit@Ponyo It's not a tweet, not someone stating an opinion, it's a video where you see the actor state his birthday. Please, don't remove.
Thank you.
From Wikipedia:Verifiability
Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they are published experts in the field, so long as:
- the material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim;
- it does not involve claims about third parties;
- it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;
- there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; and
- the article is not based primarily on such sources.
And my source respect the conditions.
Thank you. Koala Wiki (talk) 12:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Koala Wiki: Verified Twitter accounts under the control of the BLP subject can be used to verify statements about themselves. You are using a video posted by an unverified Twitter account to verify disputed information about a third party. This is not an acceptable use of Twitter as a reliable source. You can request further input at WP:RSN, but policy is clear in this instance. You highlighted the wrong portion of the policy in your post above, the bolded part of the policy is "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves". In addition, WP:SELFPUB states unequivocally "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer" (bolding original).-- Ponyobons mots 22:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Year of birth is not missing
editConcerning the edit you made, the year of birth is not missing.
from Category:Year of birth missing (living people):
"This category is appended to article pages of living individuals whose year of birth is not indicated."
Instead, there are conflicting sources about this actor's date of birth. In this case has been applied the Biographies of living persons.
From WP:DOB:"If multiple independent reliable sources state differing years or dates of birth in conflict, the consensus is to include all birth dates/years for which a reliable source exists, clearly noting discrepancies. In this situation, editors must not include only one date/year which they consider "most likely", or include merely a single date from one of two or more reliable sources."
Greetings.
Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2023
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So, when talked about how he's the offical face of Gris Dior, I feel like it would be more formal for it to say 'official ambassador' of Gris Dior. Seeing as how he's the offical ambassador. So please change 'face of' to 'ambassador of'. Writingzhombie15 (talk) 02:50, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. M.Bitton (talk) 14:04, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
BIRTHDATE
editThe person that keeps removing Joe's birthdate and age. Please stop. You are vandalizing his page. Pearlaurier (talk) 11:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- If the birth date (or else) gets removed, it means that it's not in accordance with Wikipedia rules about the biographies of living persons.
- This topic has been discussed, and @Ponyo and @Discospinster (that are administrators) can confirm it, no birth date is accepted till a reliable source is provided.
- So, I'm sorry, but "I fact checked it." is not enough to be considered a reliable source.
- Koala Wiki (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Birthday
editJoseph stated at a convention in Toronto (FanExpo) that his birthday is January 26th he stated he’s an aquarius and didn’t know where people got taurus from. He’s also born in the year 1994 making him 29. No this was not a joke, no it was not fake he genuinely stated his birthday the twitter account of Stranger Things writers often post photos of their cast members on their birthday guess when Joseph’s was… January 26th! source: https://twitter.com/strangerwriters/status/1618705349456039936?s=46&t=G1wcVNW7HMcebOtGE0PfsQ DomCas3232 (talk) 10:33, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- It's not enough as source.
- "Self-published books and newsletters, personal pages on social networking sites, tweets, and posts on Internet forums are all examples of self-published media. Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer"
- The Stranger Things Twitter is a third-party source. The confirmation of his birthday should come from reliable and independent publications.
- - Koala Wiki (talk) 12:07, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2023
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A Quiet Place Day One needs to be changed to post-production as filming for this project ended a few months ago. Lucyleanne123 (talk) 14:26, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2024
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Joesph Quinn’s Birthday is January 26th 1994 he’s 30 years old. 47.160.47.195 (talk) 08:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 08:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
hant 2001:FD8:1801:B3C5:1:0:68E3:493A (talk) 15:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2024
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Change personal life to state that he is not dating Doja Cat due to confirmation not being provided by either party Jumpup242 (talk) 10:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 12:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)