Talk:Jimmy Carter

One month, not 2 weeks

" In August, Carter said he hoped to vote for the Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, in the 2024 presidential election, two weeks after his 100th birthday"

The same Guardian article clarified that he will turn 100 one month before the November election, not two weeks before. TheSupremeMoron (talk) 15:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

The source was indicating that early voting in Georgia starts on October 15, 2024, which is exactly two weeks after Carter's 100th birthday. Since we don't know whether Carter will make it to that date, nor when he will vote if he does make it to then, I'd say that based on how the sentence here is written, we shouldn't specify an exact relative date ("two weeks" or "one month") in the sentence. Simply saying it will be "after his 100th birthday" should suffice. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Also he'll probably vote absentee, which means he will mark his ballot even earlier, although it won't be counted until later. And we don't know what the rules are if someone dies before the count. So I agree we should leave out the exact timeframe. GA-RT-22 (talk) 15:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

fair enough TheSupremeMoron (talk) 17:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

From what I understand, Georgia has no laws on whether or not these votes should be counted (https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/counting-absentee-ballots-after-a-voter-dies), so it's unclear what would happen to his ballot Qqars (talk) 17:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

According to People magazine, Georgia does not have any laws barring a ballot from being counted if someone dies between the early voting period and Election Day. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:25, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Voting is via secret ballot, so it would be quite interesting how they would know the vote to disregard it, gotcha ? 82.131.147.255 (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

An absentee ballot can be rejected (for an invalid signature or other procedural error) up until it is removed from the envelope and placed in the pile to be counted. When that occurs depends on state law. Donald Albury 22:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Centenarian?

Why does it say he's a centenarian? Isn't his birthday October 1? That's tomorrow, at least in the eastern time zone. Are we going by UTC? GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I mean... Wikipedia runs on UTC, so I guess in that case he is a centenarian. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 00:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Not exactly since we still have to wait until its midnight in Georgia to officially say it. CAnny (talk) 01:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

It will be automatically updated in 150 minutes. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

So I guess we're taking the Midnight Train to Georgia GA-RT-22 (talk) 01:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Is it the same train the Devil took to get to Georgia? LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 02:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to {{show by date}}, the previous wording will remain until midnight in the eastern time zone. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm sure this has been a problem before guys---I'm certain there's an correct answer with your guys' experience Aziair (talk) 03:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

You go up in age at midnight the day before your birthday, at least under English and American common law. Absolutely no one considers you to have, but this is legally correct:

https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/4783/us-law-what-exact-time-is-a-person-considered-legally-18

Good luck convincing a bouncer, but it's true.

Social Security agrees too:

https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/404/404-0102.htm Embowaf (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, that's probably why the info box shows him as 100 already and that's calculated. Embowaf (talk) 03:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Not quite; the infobox calculated "100" as soon as it passed midnight UTC. Per users above, the prose is awaiting midnight EDT. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough on the infobox. But, I'm pretty sure I'm right still. Not gonna fight it; it's an obscure fact. Embowaf (talk) 04:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I never claimed otherwise, nor am I interested in doing so. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 04:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Sources

Is there some reason the Bibliography section is not alphabetized by author name? Would it be ok for me to sort it?

What is this section anyway? I thought it was works cited, but it has a number of works listed that are not cited. Are these supposed to be general references? If not, are they further reading, and should they be moved to that section?

What is the primary sources section? Why are these in the further reading section if they are sources? It looks like it's books written by Carter, except for the last three entries on the list. What are these? GA-RT-22 (talk) 04:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Everything in the § Bibliography section is cited. I've sorted them alphabetically. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 04:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Extended-Confirmed-protected edit requests

Could you please change the 199th reference (since it is a dead link and is not archived) to this: https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/09/department-of-education-history-000235/ Thanks, Who am I? Talk to me! What have I done? 08:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Ref numbers change all the time. Can you be more specific? GA-RT-22 (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Good catch. The link # hadn't changed since the request was made, so it was a fairly easy fix. That being said, GA-RT-22 is correct in saying that ref numbers change frequently in the course of editing. So, for future reference, please give more specific details when requesting a replacement link for a specific reference. Thanks. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 15:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me know that.

Who am I? Talk to me! What have I done? 17:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Very unnecessary Секретное общество (talk) 06:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Jimmy Carter 100th birthday mosaic

Please consider putting this information in the article in some form. — Jimmy Carter's 100th birthday: Here's how to sign the virtual card: Celebrating 100 Years!. Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 00:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Why? This is an online encyclopedia. We're also not supposed to solicit other websites. Секретное общество (talk) 06:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Earliest former president technically eligible for re-election

Can we add a single line to his "post presidency" section?

"Carter did not seek the presidency again following his 1980 defeat, and still remains the oldest and earliest former US president still eligible for re-election under the 22nd Amendment." 219.89.41.164 (talk) 06:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

This feels like original research. I would oppose saying anything about it unless it has been discussed in reliable sources, and even then wonder how due it is. Donald Albury 13:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It's not original research, it's a simple evident unimportant "gosh wow", given that he appears to have no interest in re-election at this point, nor has anyone seriously suggested he should. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 15:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Right now he is the only former president eligible for reelection. Since Trump has been reelected, Biden is the current president, and the other 3 former presidents at present Clinton, Bush and Obama all served two full terms. Carter even being alive in 2028 is very unlikely, so this just seems idle wordiness that does not matter.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:12, 11 December 2024 (UTC)