Talk:Jason Shawn Alexander

Name

This should really be J. Alexander (artist) or soething similar to meet naming conventions. (Emperor 19:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC))

This page should remain separate from Jason Shawn Alexander Rosepuntil (talk) 21:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't this at Jason Shawn Alexander? It was at J. Alexander (Comics Artist) and Rosepuntil moved it to Jason Shawn Alexander (Comics Artist) which isn't following disambiguation or the Comics Project Naming Conventions so I moved it to here but checking and Jason Shawn Alexander is free and redirects here. Are there others of equal notability? I Googled and couldn't find anything. (Emperor (talk) 00:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC))

Funny you should ask Emperor. Initially, I created a separate article at Jason Shawn Alexander, but I was corrected and recorrected by Editor Sandahl to update Jason Shawn Alexander (comics). Here is the note that was left for me on my usertalk,

There is already an article on this subject at Jason Shawn Alexander (comics). Please stop reverting the redirect. Please consider improving the existing article.— Ѕandahl ♥ 22:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

When I began I wasn't sure that I should delete, move or completely change J.Alexander. I only moved it from J. Alexander(comics) to Jason Shawn Alexander(comics) to simplfy search success, no one knows him as just J. Alexander. His contributions to the art world encompass more than just the realm of comics and I don't know how to lose the (comics) tag yet.

There is no one else of equal notability. What should I do now? Thank you! Rosepuntil (talk) 02:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

You don't need to do anything more I just wanted to be sure before I did the move as it does involve a bit of deleting and restoring. (note to other admins, and myself, there are edits on the previous version of this page which haven't been restored as the page kept being started and redirected and it could make things messy. I have restored the edits on the talk page).

It should all be done now. (Emperor (talk) 03:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC))

Thank you! When can we remove the dispute tag on the page? I really appreciate your help. Rosepuntil (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Concerns about neutrality come from things like "Noted for his raw and fervent style, Jason's paintings provoke the viewer" and "Not at all surprising to those who have seen Jason's work" which are more than kind of thing you'd find on a press release than in an encyclopaedia as can be seen by comparing the current version with a previous one [1], the latter being far more neutral. Also there are other concerns - I am unsure about the inclusion of a form of personal statement by the artist and you can't quote from blogs except in very tightly defined circumstances. So it needs a heavy edit (I'd even favour going back to the version I linked to. (Emperor (talk) 20:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC))

I see. I'll do my best to continue editing for neutrality, but at times this can be a little difficult when trying to encapsulate a painter's style, method, energy in text. I'm using articles of famous artists as reference Pablo Picasso for example, and it can be argued that much of the language in his article is beyond the neutrality rules. Rosepuntil (talk) 21:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I can't see many parallels with the Picasso article (although I only gave it a quick skim) - when praise is used it is usually well sourced which is all perfectly consistent with guidelines as long as it is balanced and you use reliable sources, which is pretty easy with Picasso (that said that article could do with more footnoting). (Emperor (talk) 00:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC))

One thing to note - his page doesn't have a "gallery", images are used to illustrate points. We would usually not allow a gallery because it infringes fair use but I see these have been released under a free license but I see they were released by you. I know you are a friend of the artist but I am unsure you can do this, making images freely available like that is rather a big deal and usually has to be done by the creator/owner (as they are giving up a lot of their rights and control over the material). Still one of these would be enough to demonstrate his style. (Emperor (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC))

You are right, I work with Jason and I was given permission to upload those photographs. I chose the recommended fair use licensing. The original pieces are automatically copyrighted by the creator and, according to The US 1976 Copyright Act, he has the right to allow public displays and distribution of his pieces.

I initally embarked on this wiki editing journey because I was trying to improve an already existing wiki page on Jason. It was never intended to be a public relations piece. Rosepuntil (talk) 23:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I have made some significant changes to this article. I believe it is time to remove the Nuetrality Dispute. Rosepuntil (talk) 14:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Group exhibitions

I've moved the group shows to here. Artist bio's usually only contain significant solo exhibitions. It's an article, not a resume.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 23:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• Clowns

Group exhibition. Corey Helford Gallery, Culver City, CA 2008

• Oroborus

Two man exhibition. Strychnin Gallery, Berlin, Germany 2008

• Four

Four man exhibition. Corey Helford Gallery, Culver City, CA 2008

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