NPOV template

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Have all NPOV issues been resolved? Is it okay to remove the template from the top of the article? BeŻet (talk) 12:46, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'd like to think @Makeandtoss and I have a better understanding these days, at least that's the impression I get but could be mistaken. Ultimately it's up to them as the editor who placed the POV template as to whether issues have been resolved or not. Personally I have no issue with the change of "anti-Israel" to "opposition to Israel". They are essentially the same thing, especially given the former is now a redirect to a dab page, rather than directly to anti-Zionist. I wouldn't describe Hinkle as being part of the Anti-Israel lobby though, he's more generically anti-Zionist based on self-published sources, hence I converted the wiki-link to the wording in question. CNC (talk) 18:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your explanation, let's wait for them to see what they think. BeŻet (talk) 21:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
You are not mistaken, but only due to personal reasons of mine that we did not have a good one before. I do not object to the tag's removal. Makeandtoss (talk) 22:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

In the interest of resolving another NPOV issue, I strongly recommend removing from the bio on the right side of the page, under the heading "Known for," the entries "online misinformation" and "disinformation." Any claim that Hinkle has engaged in said activities can be discussed in the text, with appropriate citing and references, so the readers can judge for themselves. Neither Wikipedia nor the government is not the arbiter of what is, or is not, the truth. Claiming that someone is "known for" "misinformation" or "disinformation" is not an objective statement, but an opinion that essentially calls someone a liar. Cite the actual controversies themselves in the body of the article and let the reader judge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.92.164.170 (talk) 19:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I am replying to my own original unsigned comment in order to make it clear that it is in fact my comment. Effectively, I am signing the above comment. A.G.Phillbin (talk) 17:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's why this article exists, because of his WP:SIGCOV regarding misinformation that gained Hinkle WP:GNG, otherwise the delete discussion would have easily gone the other way. The infobox is merely a summary of the body. Nobody is calling Hinkle a liar, only that he spreads misinformation and is also best known for doing so based on WP:RS coverage. CNC (talk) 18:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
This answers nothing. I'm not asking you to delete the entire article, only the reference in the bio box in the upper right corner that says he is "known for "online misinformation" and "disinformation." NO ONE should be tagged in this way; it is entirely POV. You can write up any falsehood claims mase about a subject in the body of the article, with appropriate references. Let the readers decide for themselves what is, or is not, "disinformation" or "misinformation." Are you claiming that these two descriptions are objectively true? On what basis do you make this claim? A.G.Phillbin (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Not done. Please see MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, the infobox is a summary of the body. We don't decide what should and shouldn't be there based on WP:POV, but merely include summary information. Multiple reliable sources in the body document his history in spreading misinformation and disinformation. It's irrelevant whether it's the WP:TRUTH or not. CNC (talk) 14:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

"Fake news"?

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"In October 2023, Hinkle shared a fake news release stating that the United States was sending billions of dollars in aid to Israel." By what stretch of imagination and bad faith is that not true? Since when is the US not sending billions of dollars in aid to Israel? Can the truth be "fake news"? Lestrad (talk) 06:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Per the source, Hinkle shared what was claimed to be a White House news release. It was the news release that was fake. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 07:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

July 2024 BBC story about another Russian fake news operation against Ukraine. One X user, the pro-Russia, pro-Donald Trump activist Jackson Hinkle, posted a link seen by more than 6.5m people. Should this be in article? BobFromBrockley (talk) 05:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 September 2024

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Jackson Hinkle has stated that it's his birthday today on September 15th. https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1835270134036090986 Googlygenius (talk) 13:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 15:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 September 2024

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Even though he stated that it was his birthday yesterday on September 15th (with this tweet --> https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1835270134036090986) he is saying that it's his birthday today on September 16th (with this tweet --> https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1835642822684520851) meanwhile it says September 11th on the main page of Google. There needs to be a clarification for his exact birthday. Googlygenius (talk) 13:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply