Talk:Islamic calendar
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editDoes anybody know with confidence whether this image is of a solar or a lunar Hijri calendar? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 07:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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editPut the name of writer and make sure content same on every language, because i notice each language have different version and content, should be one sheet for everyone, to be able to check true or false things 114.10.143.50 (talk) 18:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Other calendars using the Islamic era: bold, revert, discuss
editIn this edit, User:Ahammed Saad asserts that the Bengali calendar is based on the lunar Hijri calendar. There are some problems with that assertion:
- The epoch of the Bengali calendar is not the Hijrah
- The Bengali calendar is solar (like the Shia solar Hijri calendar), not lunar (like the Sunni lunar Hijri calendar)
- The origin of the Bengali calendar is disputed. Bengali calendars#History says
Some historians attribute the Bengali calendar to the 7th century Bengali king Shashanka, whose reign covered the Bengali era of 594 CE.
Another theory is that the calendar was first developed by Alauddin Husain Shah (reign 1494–1519), a Hussain Shahi sultan of Bengal by combining the lunar Islamic calendar (Hijri) with the solar calendar, prevalent in Bengal.
Yet another theory states that the Sasanka calendar was adopted by Alauddin Husain Shah when he witnessed the difficulty with collecting land revenue by the Hijri calendar.
So Ahammed Saad's assertion needs the support of an independent WP:RS 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the epoch of the Bengali Calendar is 693 AH (1556 CE), not the Higra. So it is no more a "calendar using the Islamic era" than is the Juche calendar of North Korea, purely on the basis that both were established after the foundation of the Hijri Calendar. Or should we say equally that the Hijri calendars use the Christian Era (Anno Domini).
- One of the sources says that Alauddin Husain Shah had to resolve the fact that the Lunar Hijri calendar takes no account of the seasons of the year and thus of the ability to pay taxes. So the calendar he developed took into account both the religious and the civil obligations. So it might be argued (and an RS would have to say so) that the the Bengali calendar is partly based on the Hijri calendar. But that is a long way from saying it is based on the Hijri era, which means the time that has elapsed since the epoch.
- Thus, per wp:STATUSQUO, I have removed the addition as a WP:No original research violation. The WP:ONUS is now on Mr Saad to produce a neutral reliable source that supports his interpretation. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:02, 12 October 2024 (UTC)