Talk:Indya Moore

Non-binary

OK, I came in to do some cleanup after seeing the low-level edit-warring around the pronouns. It is sourced in the interview with MJ Rodriquez that Moore identifies as non-binary. So, we're going with those pronouns and categories. This is a bit more difficult when it comes to putting categories on the article, as some of the categories are currently divided solely on the binary. However, "actor" and "model" themselves are gender-neutral terms, even though the former doesn't always carry that connotation to all readers. Many women insist on being called "actors", as it's the original term, and "actress" was only added later in history. I checked and other people who identify as non-binary are in the "actor" categories, so, unless and until we have a "Non-binary actors" category, I guess it's simply "actors", unless someone has an idea that fits better with the sourcing. I also put in a pull quote where Moore opines on this a bit. Best, - CorbieV ^☊ ☼ 22:36, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for those improvements. (Asia Kate Dillon is the first article I can recall someone moving into the top-level category; it does seem necessary as long as the subcategories are split into such a strict binary.)
Btw, If you have the energy, another article to look into is Rain Dove; I'm going to comment on that talk page. -sche (talk) 05:32, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Moore just re-stated on Twitter today that they use singular they pronouns. Putting this here for the record. Funcrunch (talk) 18:06, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Funcrunch (and others, but pinging you since you added this to the lead here [1]): I went ahead and got an edit notice for this page to give editors a notice about Moore’s pronouns: Template:Editnotices/Page/Indya Moore. Now this is here, I wonder if it’s a bit WP:UNDUE to mention their pronouns in the lead. Their pronouns were only explicitly mentioned in the lead to get editors to stop changing them, but this sort of info doesn’t typically get mentioned in the lead. Thoughts? Umimmak (talk) 12:56, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

@Umimmak: As I mentioned elsewhere, my unfortunate experience is that editors who are against singular they pronouns (or simply ignorant of them) tend to misgender nb subjects regardless of leads, editnotices, or talk page discussions. Funcrunch (talk) 18:11, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Indya

Why make changes then somebody trolls you Moment4life2353 (talk) 16:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2019

Flawalyss (talk) 01:20, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
SHE'S AN ACTRESS NOT A ACTOR

 Not done: Actor is no separated Male/Female - FlightTime (open channel) 01:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Moore also is non-binary and goes by singular they pronouns, not she/her, as stated on this talk page and in the article. Funcrunch (talk) 02:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2019

Since when did the academic community or wikicommunity for that matter change proper grammar to fit the sensibilities of the person being described? Wiki doesn't refer to race, why alter gender pronoun references?2600:8803:BE00:1D5:AC4D:7C16:728F:988D (talk) 04:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Why is this person being referred to as them/ they... So inconsiderate to the LGBTQ Community.. Use the CORRECT pronouns.. SHE/HER

Dumbass! 69.193.221.154 (talk) 16:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: As stated in the article and several times on this very talk page, Moore is non-binary and goes by singular they pronouns. Funcrunch (talk) 17:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2019

Add the category of "Non-binary models" to this page Fenshan (talk) 02:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done Highway 89 (talk) 04:04, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 19:52, 14 September 2019 (UTC) Indya Moore is very important to the LGBTQ Community so plz read this fully — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.39.116.61 (talk) 23:59, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Parents origin

Just wanted to point out that Puerto Rico is in the Caribbean. See below the sentence from teh Early Life section:

A Bronx native, Indya Moore's mother is Puerto Rican and their father is from the Caribbean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.29.12.98 (talk) 17:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2021

Aneluia (talk) 14:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

This article needs grammar revision as to correct misgendering towards a trans person.

Are you refering to the Prose Television series section? Moore's character (I think) has she/her pronouns.  Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 15:32, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@Aneluia: DarthFlappy 16:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC) (Cool, new signature!)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:52, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2021

191.85.254.67 (talk) 17:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

When the article says "is an actor" it must say "is an actress", telling that Indya Moore is an actor it's not only an incorrect, also it's a way of showing transphobia ¡It's Transphobia!

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. "Actor" is often regarded as gender-neutral and preferred by many performers regardless of gender identification. See, for example, the Merriam-Webster, Oxford English, and American Heritage dictionaries. Presuming that "actor" is reflective of a male identity is as transphobic as presuming the opposite. Unless and until we have any definite statement from the subject any assumption on our parts of the professional label preferred is projecting our gender assumptions onto that person. Given that they have stated a clear preference for they/them/theirs, it is inappropriate to assume that they prefer actor or actress. Gender erasure goes both ways. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

These kinds of requests (and edits before the page was semi-protected) come up frequently from well-meaning readers who assume that Indya is a trans woman, even though the first paragraph of the article clearly states that they are non-binary and go by they/them pronouns. I'd suggest putting a permanent notice about it on the talk page, but I doubt that would get the requests to stop either. Funcrunch (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2021

I’m requesting that you change Indya Moore’s listed pronouns from they/them to she/they. On Moore’s instagram and Twitter, it is listed that her pronouns are both she/her and they/them. Sources: https://instagram.com/indyamoore?igshid=pdapa3n4oxsz and Cynthia Silva of NBC news wrote “The actor, who uses they/them and she/her pronouns, according to their Twitter bio, has been a vocal advocate for the transgender community, and Moore often uses their platform to highlight the difficult realities of trans Americans.“ 2600:6C50:1A3F:F178:301C:776A:FEB3:B401 (talk) 05:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done Nardog (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

SHE IS AN ACTRESS NOT AN ACTOR

Wtf is going on here? 80.102.222.104 (talk) 23:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

As explained multiple times on this talk page and in the article, Moore is non-binary; "actor" is appropriate. Funcrunch (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

In addition to identifying as non-binary, actor is a gender-neutral term. Some cats have been changed to "entertainers" to deal with angry responses like yours, IP user, but I don't think it's necessary. Many women in the acting profession prefer to be called "actors" as it's not only the original term, but the word "actress" was invented during a time when it was seen as unusual for women to be appearing on stage. Many women consider the term "actress" to be somewhat demeaning and othering, and akin to terms like, "lady doctor", etc. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 20:57, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2022

Please change her job/title from American Actor to American Actress as she uses they/them and she/her pronouns 108.30.27.222 (talk) 01:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See discussion above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2023

The page says she identifies as non-binary and uses she/they but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Her Instagram bio has the pronouns her/she listed. I think the entire paragraph about her pronouns can be removed since there's no need to specify her pronouns as a binary trans woman. In a recent post she wrote the caption " Indya Moore. Actor." so the use of "actor" instead of "actress" is still in alignment with how she describes herself. 2A02:2F0E:5D10:9B00:1B9:E8EF:4BFB:339E (talk) 19:32, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The she/her in her bio doesn't rule out she/they. I think that at least an explicit statement of her new pronoun preferences would be necessary to support this change. small jars tc 23:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

She has specifically said she is a trans woman. 2806:1016:C:6398:8C9F:24F4:228:2CFD (talk) 07:02, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2023

She is an actress not an actor. Please correct the word so it doesn't sound transphobic. Thank you. 2806:1016:C:6398:8C9F:24F4:228:2CFD (talk) 06:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:32, 27 July 2023 (UTC)